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Does anyone else hate presenting?

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Changednamealready · 28/10/2019 07:02

I am rubbish at it, no not rubbish awful. My voice shakes, I forget what I’m saying (even if we’ll rehearsed). The days before I have to present I’m on a terrible mood.

I wish I could say I’m over egging how bad I am at it, but it’s horrific - I’m an introvert. I try not to be self obsessed and think people don’t care about me they care about the content etc doesn’t work...at uni (Many years ago) I remember tripping up on words when presenting and some girls laughing and I think it’s haunted me.

Yet every job seems to require some degree of presenting.

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Pollaidh · 24/11/2019 21:18

Oh, meant to say, YES to reading it through verbally before. I usually plan the talk and 'story', THEN do the slides, then set the timer and talk my way through it, which identifies sticky areas and timing issues. Usually then cut some slides as I go over time, go and explain to someone (cat if need be) the sticky areas until you absolutely understand yourself. Then read through again, then if I can, I practise on someone, but that's not always possible. I absolutely don't learn off by heart though, instead you need the signposts in the slides.

Some talks I have to give quite frequently with only minor variations, so once I know what I'm saying, I can repeat without all the palaver of practising, just a quick read through on the train/plane. The only things I actually memorise are any specific statistics needed to make a point in the story.

As for notes... I don't use cue cards and I don't write word for word (that is for speeches only). But I do cover every eventuality - laptop failure, slide failure, power cut, stolen bag- as I've suffered all, so I (if possible) have a copy on my laptop, a copy emailed to the host/colleague/cloud, a USB drive, and the printed notes pages, which have the memorised stats on too. All in different parts of my luggage... It may seem paranoid but I've had pretty much everything go wrong at one point or another, up to and including a terrorist attack. You can't be too prepared Smile

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Pollaidh · 24/11/2019 21:08

I half hate, half enjoy presenting. I'm quite introverted although people don't usually believe that as I cover well. I'm exhausted after presenting. I present regularly from small groups to large rooms, from my peers to ministers and other VIPs. I get excellent reviews.

  • Cut down, cut down. Don't overwhelm with multiple and busy slides.
  • Tell a story. I don't mean give an anecdote, although that can be useful, but first figure out the main point you want to make, and then tell the story to make that point.
  • If you can, sit on a desk or something, anything that gets you into a more casual frame of mind so the panic lessens and you can tell it like a story to a mate.
  • Sign up for a public speaking/advanced presenting course. Much more useful than a sort of beginners one, and some really handy techniques.
  • Take deep calming, slow breaths before. Focus on a distant point. Put a post-it note at the back of a meeting room if needed, and project to that.
  • Rule of threes, people won't remember much more than three points.
  • Be there in good time to sort room and check tech, because it's always the tech (projector, webinarapp etc) that fail, and then you panic.
  • Don't hop from leg to leg. Take a wide stance (James Bond inspecting his latest Austin Martin is the look I go for, very grounding).
  • Props, anything to make a connection with the audience.
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BreadSauceHmm · 24/11/2019 20:45

I did used to but I found a way around it. If I view a few YouTube videos of stand up comedy (Michael Mcintyre, Omid Djalili, Lee Evans) the day before the presentation and try to emulate their confidence a bit, it works wonders 😂. It makes me relax. Try it, it might work for you too!

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justanothersugar · 24/11/2019 20:35

I hate it too!! I fainted during a school presentation once and that plays on my mind so much! I have to present on a regular basis and still hate it!

A few tips I’ve read about and have helped me (in a random order sorry!):

Breathing control and bum clenches (yes really!) just before the presentation help to physically relax the body

Familiarise yourself with the room layout if it’s somewhere new. I find that helps me to visualise giving the talk and where i will stand, put my glass of water etc.

Have some water handy in case your throat goes dry.

Depends on the audience but I put a quiz in a presentation once. It got people thinking about the topic rather than focussing on me presenting and gave me chance to catch my breath and drink some water!

Practice saying it out loud really does the trick. I had to present at a conference and it was the first time after mat leave and I was in tears the first time I said it out loud but got there with practice. Everyone afterwards couldn’t believe how nervous I had been.

Sounds like a cliche, but you’ve got this! Good luck!

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OhHellllooooo · 24/11/2019 20:16

Yep hate it if I'm in anyway unfamiliar with a topic or have a potentially difficult audience. The fear/ dread of looking stupid or not being able to answer a question, or stumbling over something I'm trying to say.

However, I don't mind it at all if it's a subject I'm really comfortable with as I don't need to 'over-prepare', as I know I won't get lost/mess up.

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NightsOfCabiria · 24/11/2019 20:11

Has anyone else been in the middle of presenting and then had a vision of themselves running out of the room? Grin

I didnt run, obviously, but the urge to do so was almost overwhelming.

I also find that I’m very calm and confident at first and gradually get more and more nervous and self conscious as time goes by.

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MarshaBradyo · 24/11/2019 18:08

Whoops that should be without notes or bullet points

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MarshaBradyo · 24/11/2019 18:08

I also learnt from one client to talk around a slide with notes or bullet points. Just a pic and / or a title it makes it less onerous for the listener.

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MarshaBradyo · 24/11/2019 18:06

I had to present a lot to big rooms of board people etc and got better at it. The trick for me was to feel like I was in a role. Acting a bit as a speaker.

Also slow down doing conference calls to many European clients at once helped me with this.

Not working atm but I quite like it now and can switch it on.

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Hockneypool · 24/11/2019 18:02

Also unless it’s very informal and only 3 people, stand up and try to stand mostly still. That way you take control of the room.

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Hockneypool · 24/11/2019 17:57

I’m an introvert but good at presentations. I see it as a performance - I’m me but just a bit more. I do have the exhaustion of the adrenaline crash later.

Someone earlier described it as leading the conversation and I think that’s right.

If it’s a new subject or piece of work I practise out loud until I’ve learnt it. Hearing how it sounds is really important - how we talk and how we write are different. And I time it, so if asked for 10 or 20 minutes that’s what I do. I don’t do word for word but close so I know what I want to say. But can say it in a few different ways - this is so I don’t get lost and then worry about losing my train of thought.

And I always practise the beginning so I start off strong and confident so everyone relaxes because they can see I can do it.

OP don’t give up your work to other people to present. Someone also said earlier the audience doesn’t know what you don’t tell them. I expect this is very true for you.

Good luck

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Changednamealready · 24/11/2019 17:42

Meg me too- I try and sit down but have been told by a colleague not to do this. Meg my voice shakes and I feel I can see others pick up on this (paranoia).


Chemenger -😂 engineer comment... some really useful tips. You are so right about the losing the plot of trying to learn off by heart which I’ve tried to do previously. Also the saying it aloud, I just admit I’ve got myself in a state when I actually practice I can’t bring myself to say it aloud much as I get the fear which is obviously half the problem! Maybe also I’ve tried to rush it too much and maybe my depth of knowledge isn’t as good as it could be. I’m actually much more relaxed when the audience speak and ask me thing directly so it becomes more informal. It’s when they are v v quiet that it’s a challenge with just my voice. Thank you again for taking the time to reply!

Chottie I try and being the audience for questions but everyone often seems reluctant to say anything and before I’ve had someone dominate so I’ve happily answered theirs but found it then hard to focus on other members of the group and getting back to the presentation.

Swedish (hello again) yes I have to say I look at others and analyse they’re presenting skills. I think part of presenting is to make it interesting and you kind of need a bit of character to do this.. when I’m up there none, zilch just a jelly with legs🥴

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Changednamealready · 24/11/2019 17:31

Pukeworthy can I bottle what your having but great you love it I would have thought most jobs have opportunities to present(?)

Stealth - I actually can’t identify what I’m worried about. I think it’s just I get there and lose track of what I’m saying , voice shakes, can’t remember what I’m talking about. I do two things under stress 1. In an emergency situation whereby someone is ill I’m a good person to be around I think clearly 2. In other stressful situations presenting, talking on a topic I feel nervous about to senior colleagues I can lose my place and just blank- completely. I think it’s my way of sticking my head in the sand. I’m a procrastinator but I think part of that is the fear... I turn away and run mentally. I’ve been in front of people before and lost what I’m saying and I really pick up on peoples expressions etc.

Swedish Edith I am going to watch!

Nancy I’m so the same - the problem is I have no choice. I recently completed a piece of work that I got someone else to present and by doing that sacrificed taking credit for it (they did credit me sweetly) but it was a career dive not doing it. That’s didn’t bother me too much but now it seems with professing with my career it’s the only option.

Our issue at work is everyone is so busy no one has time to sit in on me presenting.

Parrot I will look up the book- great you love presenting.

I just hate anything where I’m the centre of attention especially I think (reflecting) I never really have anything more clever to say than anyone else so maybe it’s more confidence than introversion.

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Pukeworthy · 18/11/2019 06:49

I love it, can never seem to land a role that requires it!

I dont think its an introversion thing, im very introverted.

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StealthPolarBear · 17/11/2019 22:45

Get a colleague in on every presentation you do and ask for very specific feedback.
Watch others present - the things you think are a big deal when you're up there aren't the things the audience picks up on.
Slow down your talking. What is the thing you're worried about? Mine is getting too far from the original point and having to tail off or change the subject abruptly. Now I know, I'm on my guard for it.

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SwedishEdith · 17/11/2019 22:39

Watch Tim Berners-Lee now on tv - he's thoroughly accomplished in his field and yet he's still clearly very nervous talking (settling down a bit now). Funny isn't it?

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anonnancy · 17/11/2019 18:01

I hate presenting so much that I've deliberately not put myself forward for promotion or a new job opportunity if it says I will need to prepare a short presentation for the interview process... so you're definitely not alone!

I have a crippling fear of public speaking and just totally blank. I hate speaking and everyone looking at me even in a group conversation with friends / family.

In all other situations I'm very friendly / talkative and almost outgoing! Just the thought of messing up a presentation to the masses literally makes my heart rate increase and my palms sweat!

I have no advice or tips for you, but just know you are not alone.

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parrotonmyshoulder · 09/11/2019 12:38

I present a lot in my work now and love it. I would also describe myself as an introvert but that has no bearing on how well I can present. I make sure that I am well prepared and know my stuff though. I’m not so happy when presenting other people’s work.
I highly recommend the book by Viv Groskop ‘How to Own the Room’.

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Megsmcgoo · 09/11/2019 12:36

Some good tips here thank you. I also hate presenting, get the shakes all over including my voice, feel sick and nervous and very weirdly feel like my heart is falling in on itself and that I’m not going to be able to breathe properly. I do however feel 1000% better if I’m sat down in a group rather than standing up, I suppose I feel more exposed stood up.

The thing is if you were to speak or see me outside of this I’ve been told I appear quite confident. It’s so irrational!

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SwedishEdith · 09/11/2019 12:30

I detest it too. Getting reminded of 'the fear' just reading through this - and I think I'm outwardly viewed as confident. I disagree about the 'it's about the content, not you' - well, disagree that it's that simple. I always watch the presenter for signs of nerves/no nerves and often forget to listen to what they're saying. I hate hearing that shake in your own voice.

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Candlebarbara · 09/11/2019 12:11

I don’t think it’s an introvert thing. I would classify myself as introverted, in that I find social situations draining and seem to benefit from quiet time to ‘recharge’.
I am also a very good, confident presenter. I quite enjoy it. For me, the key is to really know my content well, don’t try and bluff through things that I don’t really know about. I don’t practise the words as such, more make sure I am completely familiar with my slides so that I can talk naturally through them.

I also welcome questions and ask for input, I find this breaks up my talking, allows me a breather and gives an opportunity to gauge how my present is being received. If it seems to be falling dead, I can wizz through the slides more quickly and get it over and done with!

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Animum2 · 09/11/2019 11:59

Our company has introduced morning huddled, so each team will have a huddle with someone usually the team leader or manager leading it and occasionally 1 member of the team leading it

Its just meant to be short 5-10 mins to talk about the day ahead, I don't mind doing it, though when the department manager joins in it is a bit nervy!

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Chottie · 07/11/2019 18:23

I do not enjoy presenting either...

I practice beforehand too, if possible I go to the room, practice walking in, decide where I am going to stand and do practice speaking to get the 'feel' of the room. I check the room layout is the most appropriate.

But, I take the 'fake it, until you make it' approach. I start off with a smile and have a friendly manner, I invite questions and comments from the audience as we go through the presentation.

I use crib cards too, with just key words on them. I like to have something to hold in my hands.

Hand on heart, it does get easier, the more you do it.

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chemenger · 07/11/2019 08:54

I teach students to present and lecture to classes of hundreds. I love presenting. Making a presentation is not the same as making a speech, it shouldn’t be scripted word for word, when it is, even if the script is memorised rather than read, it will sound stilted unless you are very, very good at presenting. In a presentation with slides you need to talk about the slides fairly naturally to be effective. The slides have to give the basis of what you want to say without giving all the detail. Reading every word on the slides would take maybe 10% of the presentation time at the very most. Pictures or diagrams that you describe are a good device, show your information visually and enhance it with words.
Practice, practice, practice, as a PP said this has to be out loud, and preferably at least once to a critical friend who will honestly but constructively comment.
If you use notes on cards don’t use sentences, as soon as you start reading anything the flow goes. Just key words.The exception could be a couple of starting sentences to get going. Remember to breathe.
You don’t need to be extrovert to present well, I teach engineering; an extrovert engineer is one who looks at your shoes when he’s talking to you. The single most important thing is to feel confident that you know what you’re talking about inside out.

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lljkk · 07/11/2019 08:42

I do find it funny how MNers use being an introvert as explanation for some things... one of the best speakers I ever knew probably was quite shy, had ASD (all colleagues thought so), very kind man but quirky as all fuck, workaholic for long hours & you could see him getting exhausted by social engagements. He had worked very hard for yrs to become a competent public speaker. He saw it as a challenge so was well proud of self. Anyway...

I just decide I hate all the audience. Then I'm not nervous. Being grumpy gets me thru talks. I loathe being centre of attention, but remember they want to hear what you have to say. So keep to the message. The presentation isn't about you.

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