Night shift then sahm in the day?

[Woodyhels]

Basically looking for reassurance, found my perfect job (based on hours) and am starting my first proper shift tonight.

I am going to be working 3 nights (10 til 6) and then looking after dd during the day.

I have it all planned out with naps when dd (13 months) naps and reduced household tasks, but now, I'm crapping myself that I won't cope.

I'm sure other people do this and cope? How do you do it? What do you do to stay awake?

[ornellaia]

Well done woodyhels, I don't imagine it'll be easy but I know it can be done because my mum did it. She worked about 3/4 nights per week, would come home in the morning and get me and my Dsis ready for school (obviously my lazy-arse father couldn't manage this), she'd drop us at school and then go into uni for lectures - somehow she managed to get a degree and keep the family afloat. Christ only knows when she slept though. Best of luck with the job x

[bonhomiee]

thats good
glad you finish at 6 I finish at 10 and that is why there isn't much time
good luck x

[Woodyhels]

Thanks for the advice Bon!

The job I am doing is in fast food so as long as i follow hygiene etc and do my job properly (which my manager assures me I am) then I have few work responsibilities.

Since dd was little we have always had an active morning and quiet afternoon as she has always enjoyed a long afternoon nap and I find mornings much easier to be active.

2nd shift is almost done (well I finish at 6) and so far so good, not really tired and completed some training.

I am really hoping that I'm just one of the people that this works for!!

[bonhomiee]

Its tricky
I do nights and its hard to get enough rest especially with the sleep deficit that builds up if you don't sleep before the first night.
Between eating, drinking,driving to and fro and showering there isn't much time to spare, and its a different type of sleep so if the phone goes etc it can be difficult to get back to sleep.
Have a short nap before driving home in the morning and have back up child care if you are struggling because you could push yourself too far if you are not careful.
I don't do childcare while on nights not even the school run unless it is the first or last night... I can't risk being tired as too many lives depend on me overnight.
Have back up childcare from a friend if you really need it.

[DameEnidsOrange]

Well done woodyhels, hope you have a nice easy night

[Woodyhels]

Lougle, I have been thinking about the driving and have already agreed with dp that if I am too tired the car stays parked and I get a taxi, it's just not worth it!

Thanks for the comments again btw

[Woodyhels]

Well, I've had 2.5 hours sleep so far and am feeling ok.

Took dd to soft play this morning and had lunch there, home for her nap and then we have been "doing" puzzles (I do them she eats/flings the pieces) dp made a stew last night for us so that's in the oven and I'm going to have another sleep when dp is home to look after dd.

I know that tomorrow I will probably feel twice as bad but I am feeling relatively positive about tonight's shift. But only time will tell :)

At least I'm not comatose and dd is happy :)

[Lougle]

For me, the biggest problem with nights is the drive home. Many, many times I would be driving home, thinking I was awake, then suddenly seeing a number plate in front of me closer than I expected. Quite scary.

[MrsCantSayAnything]

I've done it and still do in a sense except I work from home....which means that travel isn't a factor. You will be ok. You'll get used to it.

[mynameis]

Good luck Woody, hope it works out for you

[Woodyhels]

Managed a 2 hour nap today and just on my break and so far so good.

After another chat with dp and the manager we have all concluded that I need to see how I go and that we need to work together to see if this is manageable long term.

Thanks for all the advice

[DameEnidsOrange]

From how you have described your role, it sounds like it is less dangerous (to others) than nursing or care to do whilst sleep deprived.

I think if you could space your nights a bit it wouldn't be too bad, but to have to go through the day and night without a decent chunk of sleep will be exhausting.

One other thing to think about is that if you're not really doing much with your DD during the day - ie she is watching tv etc while you nap, then she won't be burning off energy and it may affect her behaviour.

[Woodyhels]

Thanks for all of the comments, even if they are not all what I wanted to hear :)

A main motivator is to avoid childcare costs, and because I didn't want to leave dd during the day.

I am able to survive on very little sleep, I normally get around 6 hours a night and most of that is broken as I wake frequently and am a light sleeper (so always hear dd)

I know that this is not for everyone and I am hoping that after a few weeks my system will adjust, dp and I have already decided that if it is not working for us as a family for any of the reasons you have described I will stop.

Thanks to those who do it successfully :) it is in the restaurant industry so hygiene and awareness of hot things are important but I would not be operating machinery etc.

[janey68]

I would feel I was shortchanging either my children, my employer, or both to be totally honest with you.
If you're shattered after working all night, it's going to be very tempting to try to get your child to nap or do really low key passive activities when they don't really want to, rather than interacting with them properly. That's not a personal criticism of your parenting; I would say the same to anyone. i think with the best will in the world you'll be worn out so quickly that you'll be tempted to cut corners either in the workplace or home.

Have you taken this job as a way of trying to earn but avoid childcare? Because in all honesty, your child will be far better off spending a few hours a day with good quality childcare so you can sleep, rather than being with a worn out mum.

No one would dream of doing a conventional all day job, and then staying up all night every night. What you are doing is an exact parallel to that - you will be doing a full working 'day' (albeit at night time!) and then trying to run on empty.

[headlesshorseman]

It is doable, I have a friend with 2 babies/toddlers who does permanent nights with no childcare. She manages to nap on the sofa with kids in playpen/ secure area, and then 2-3 hrs after DP is home.
I'v just finished a set of nights, but my DCs are school age. I don't sleep well in the day, so try and have 2 naps of 20-30 mins throughout the day and then a good 2 hours before work. And I don't get up until the last possible moment to get to work. And the bare minimum of housework. So everyone is fed, and the dishwasher is put on but that is it. And if you can manage a power nap during your break at work it makes life much easier.
The main thing to remember is to eat and drink as if you were working in the day. Even without enough sleep you'll still be able to function well enough if you are well fed and hydrated and i'm a nurse and i haven't killed anyone yet

[SouthernComforts]

I think it will be very hard. I do sort of nights (7-4am) twice a week and I can manage having dd all day before my shift but I would be a zombie if I had dd all the next day then worked again. I could do it, but it wouldn't be nice.

It also depends on how good you are at sleeping at odd hours, eg when your dc are playing in the next room, and eating at odd hours. You need to be able to eat and sleep whenever possible to keep going.

Good luck.

[beckythump]

It is doable if you get the sleep you plan for each afternoon plus a solid 3hrs before work, but you would feel dreadful, shaky, tearful and frequently at the end of your patience reserves.
Intrigued as to why inlaws won't do nappies.

[AndDIEMacDuff]

I think you are also overlooking the fact that your DD won't be napping 3 hours at a time for much longer. Sure, you could get lucky and have it like that for another year, but it could also be that by the time she's 18 months she's down to one hour. How do you expect to cope on then 4 hours sleep at best?

[bamboostalks]

My poor old mum did it for donkeys years. She managed but it was tough.

[scarevola]

What is the job - for it may prove unsafe to do some tasks when sleep deprived. I wouldn't want you to be a danger to yourself or to others.

Pulling an allnighter is something I could do in my youth, and might still manage on a very occasional basis now. It's not something that anyone should be planning to do 3 days a week indefinitely. You really need childcare.

[MarshaBrady]

It will be too hard in the morning waiting to sleep and how will you wake up after two hours when you need more.

[FreddieMercuryforQueen]

Honestly it really isn't doable, not for any length of time. And by that I mean more than a week or two. Unfortunately people seem to have the impression that working all night isn't really 'working' as such and so sleep during the day is a luxury. It's not, it's completely essential, exactly the way sleeping from 10pm to 6am is needed to do a Monday to Friday 9-5 job.

[mynameis]

Hate to be another voice of doom but I think it will be very very hard to manage on that little sleep.

Is there anyone who can help you even for a few hours in the day? Just to get one solid block of sleep

[Woodyhels]

I'm now more worried, great, dd will sleep 2-3 hours in the afternoon and then when oh gets home from work between 5:30 and 6 I will go to bed until 9, up shower and go to work.

I know the best laid plans and all that, as I've just started I am not sure what the possibility of requesting non consecutive days will be or anything else really, in laws have said that they may take dd occasionally when I need them to, but they don't do nappies so if dd needed changing I would need to be woken which sounds a bit counter productive to me!

I am expecting it to be hard and to be tired etc but was hoping that someone would say its doable and you get used to it!

Guess I just need to see how it goes!