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Major American news sources not covering the Cass review

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user1477391263 · 18/04/2024 07:11

https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1780786511358677421

CNN, CBS News, NPR appear to have basically blacked out the whole story - a major story which has been picked up by non-US sources across the world.

The US media appears to be so polarized on this issue that I am seriously wondering how and whether the US can actually come back from this.

https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1780786511358677421

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UtopiaPlanitia · 18/04/2024 13:50

Mainstream American media needs to find a way to properly discuss the issue given that:

  • a) this is an election year
  • b) voters have alternative sources of information that will discuss the topic, so the MSM staying quiet isn’t going to stop this from being an issue voters care about.
NoSnowdrop · 18/04/2024 14:03

Love him or hate him this is what Elon Musk has been saying for a long time, that the mainstream media in the US is heavily biased and utterly captured by gender ideology.

Pallisers · 18/04/2024 14:06

The Boston Globe and the NYT have both covered it - but they have put their heads above the parapet before on this issue, even before Cass. The comment sections for each article were overwhelmingly approving of the Cass report.

The democrats should be reading those comments which are nearly always along the lines of "lifelong democrat here but this issue has been handled terribly" As a party, they have simply handed this issue to the MAGAs without any thought, reflection, or concern for women and children whatsoever. To this day, I never hear the words "pregnant women" on NPR. Pregnant people or folks only. You cannot convey the impact of Dobbs on women's health without using the word woman.

I don't recall Isla Blair and the consequences in Scotland being carried in any newspaper here. Lia Thomas was swimming in boston and breaking records and there was a tiny paragraph in the Boston Globe buried below local high school sports reporting.

capitanaamerica · 18/04/2024 14:43

CBS didn't cover the main Cass story at all, as far as I can see - but today they ARE covering Scotland (Sandyford) pausing prescriptions of puberty blockers for minors: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scotland-gender-identity-affirming-care-puberty-blockers-minors-lgbtq-transgender/?intcid=CNM-00-10abd1h

The story itself is OK and has reasonable contextual background - but note, though, that their explanatory links are to US-based stories and not really relevant context. In the US press, anything to do with caution about youth healthcare related to transgender identities is treated in a very biased manner; state-level initiative proposing or enforcing limits and pauses similar to what Scotland has just done are routinely headlined as "anti-trans" proposals, policies, laws, etc.

Worth noting, too, that what's considered "newsworthy" in terms of international news by US mainstream outlets often relies on what comes across on the international wires. Reuters, for example, covered the original Cass Report story a week ago, but has not covered any of the subsequent comment in Parliament, from the UK govt, in the UK/intl media, and/or from the devolved governments/administrations: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/evidence-gender-care-remarkably-weak-says-major-english-review-2024-04-09/

GenderlessVoid · 18/04/2024 16:16

It's encouraging that WaPo covered it today. I'm a bit shocked at the dearth of coverage in the US given its importance to a very controversial topic.

https://archive.is/83ZJa

HumphreyCushionintheHouse · 11/05/2024 03:50

NPR covered it this week, on the show On Point. It was an interview with Hilary Cass, who was amazing, succinct and easy for a non medical person like me to understand.
Here’s a link to their episodes…..This was May 8. I’m not sure if it can be played in the UK.
https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510053/on-point

On Point

Let's make sense of the world – together. From the economy and health care to politics and the environment – and so much more – On Point host Meghna Chakrabarti speaks with newsmakers and real people about the issues that matter most.

https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510053/on-point

UtopiaPlanitia · 11/05/2024 13:50

HumphreyCushionintheHouse · 11/05/2024 03:50

NPR covered it this week, on the show On Point. It was an interview with Hilary Cass, who was amazing, succinct and easy for a non medical person like me to understand.
Here’s a link to their episodes…..This was May 8. I’m not sure if it can be played in the UK.
https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510053/on-point

I think this will work in the UK

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/05/08/nhs-hilary-cass-review-gender-transgender-care

Retired consultant paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass speaking about the publication of the Independent Review of Gender Identity Services for Children and Young People (The Cass Review) at the PA Media offices in west London. The former president of the Roy...

'The evidence was disappointingly poor': The full interview with Dr. Hilary Cass

In March, Britain’s National Health Service announced it will no longer routinely prescribe puberty blockers to gender questioning young people under the age of 18. In her first U.S. broadcast interview, pediatrician Dr. Hilary Cass explains the NHS's...

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/05/08/nhs-hilary-cass-review-gender-transgender-care

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2024 14:01

UtopiaPlanitia · 18/04/2024 13:50

Mainstream American media needs to find a way to properly discuss the issue given that:

  • a) this is an election year
  • b) voters have alternative sources of information that will discuss the topic, so the MSM staying quiet isn’t going to stop this from being an issue voters care about.

Yes, what it is likely to do is sow distrust in the media that is deliberately not covering something that has been big news globally.

Saschka · 11/05/2024 14:08

I don’t think the mainstream US press is going to be particularly interested in what the UK health service is up to. Most North American viewers are not going to be interested either, regardless of what they think of trans medical care. They don’t look very far beyond their own borders. I was living in Toronto during Brexit, and that was barely covered either. People at work occasionally asked me who this Boris Johnson guy was and what his beef was with the EU, but that’s because they knew I was English. We pay far more attention to US politics (due to the size of the US) than they do to ours.

If Kaiser published a report like this, US media would never shut up about it. It’s because it’s “foreign news”.

UtopiaPlanitia · 11/05/2024 14:15

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2024 14:01

Yes, what it is likely to do is sow distrust in the media that is deliberately not covering something that has been big news globally.

Exactly! I mean Glenn Beck did a special on the subject this week (the first hour was free on YouTube) and he mentioned the Cass Report as well as systematic reviews from various European countries.

He wasn’t his usual sensationalist self about it and even tried (a bit confusingly) to discuss the history of John Money and Harry Benjamin. He mentioned Dentons and WPATH so someone on his team was doing some research into the topic and not just glossing over details. Beck kept returning to the line that mainstream journalism is refusing to cover this so he and other personalities on the Right are trying to cover it because they feel people need to know about it. I’m no fan of Beck but I’m glad to see him make a stab at covering this in a responsible way.

This issue of this ideology being damaging to kids really seems to be cutting through on the conservative side of American politics and it desperately needs to be discussed on the Left as well. It’s too important an issue for society to have it become part of tribal politics.

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CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 12/05/2024 03:42

Saschka · 11/05/2024 14:08

I don’t think the mainstream US press is going to be particularly interested in what the UK health service is up to. Most North American viewers are not going to be interested either, regardless of what they think of trans medical care. They don’t look very far beyond their own borders. I was living in Toronto during Brexit, and that was barely covered either. People at work occasionally asked me who this Boris Johnson guy was and what his beef was with the EU, but that’s because they knew I was English. We pay far more attention to US politics (due to the size of the US) than they do to ours.

If Kaiser published a report like this, US media would never shut up about it. It’s because it’s “foreign news”.

I don't agree with that at all. The UK is in many ways a window onto Europe for the US so their political goings on are closely watched.

Do you read the New York Times ? They extensively covered brexit and Boris and had a very good article about Cass. In fact it was their lack of coverage on Title IX (a domestic issue) that enraged me.

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2024 06:35

UtopiaPlanitia · 11/05/2024 14:15

Exactly! I mean Glenn Beck did a special on the subject this week (the first hour was free on YouTube) and he mentioned the Cass Report as well as systematic reviews from various European countries.

He wasn’t his usual sensationalist self about it and even tried (a bit confusingly) to discuss the history of John Money and Harry Benjamin. He mentioned Dentons and WPATH so someone on his team was doing some research into the topic and not just glossing over details. Beck kept returning to the line that mainstream journalism is refusing to cover this so he and other personalities on the Right are trying to cover it because they feel people need to know about it. I’m no fan of Beck but I’m glad to see him make a stab at covering this in a responsible way.

This issue of this ideology being damaging to kids really seems to be cutting through on the conservative side of American politics and it desperately needs to be discussed on the Left as well. It’s too important an issue for society to have it become part of tribal politics.

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Actually, to your last point, the US' political tribalism is phenomenally intense. Far worse than here. See - those yard signs with the appropriate clutch of views of one side or the other.

If we've seen shades.of that here, with the Tories in Scotland voting against the GRR, for example, it will be amplified in the US.

Traitortothecause · 12/05/2024 18:46

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 12/05/2024 03:42

I don't agree with that at all. The UK is in many ways a window onto Europe for the US so their political goings on are closely watched.

Do you read the New York Times ? They extensively covered brexit and Boris and had a very good article about Cass. In fact it was their lack of coverage on Title IX (a domestic issue) that enraged me.

We all know the NYT is incredibly biased and not representative of USA society at all - much like NPR who have lost 15+ million listeners in the last 10 years. I was regular listener in the past but haven't listened to them for years. They are funded by the taxpayers and should be much more neutral with views from all sides.
That's how so many Democrats in coastal cities were blindsided by Trump's election; their news sources were the NYT, WA Post, NPR, CNN etc etc that just demonize anyone who does not share their politics or cultural preferences, while they claim to be diverse and inclusive. I mean that happens in both sides, right and left - but the leftist elites like to think of themselves as incredibly well informed and educated.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 12/05/2024 19:49

@Traitortothecause Those are important points but I don't see the connection with me pointing out that the US media does in fact cover what a PP called "foreign news." Whether you think that coverage is of sufficient quality is another question.

TempestTost · 13/05/2024 05:51

I was shocked on Friday to see a three page story on the Cass report in my local newspaper here in Canada. I've never, ever seen anything like that printed here, and I'd have expected that particular paper to toe a similar like to the CBC.

I am really curious about what people will make of it. Though many don't read the paper any more.

Traitortothecause · 13/05/2024 06:44

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 12/05/2024 19:49

@Traitortothecause Those are important points but I don't see the connection with me pointing out that the US media does in fact cover what a PP called "foreign news." Whether you think that coverage is of sufficient quality is another question.

It's definitely of general low quality and quantity.

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