New Year Honours - Professor Stock, OBE

[DangerFrog]

Just spotted this in the New Year Honours list:

Officers of the Order of the British Empire (OBE)
Professor Kathleen Mary Linn Stock. Professor of Philosophy, University of Sussex. For services to Higher Education. (Lewes, East Sussex)

Excellent to see her getting some positive recognition!

www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/scotland/2778163/new-year-honours-all-the-incredible-people-recognised-in-the-2021-list/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[ArabellaScott]

@UppityPuppity

Re AOC - you can’t have the former without the latter.

Quite right.


I can't stand AOC. Righteous people scare me shitless.

[FannyCann]

Oh sorry. I didn't realise the letter was old news.

[FannyCann]

Looks like a campaign to get her OBE withdrawn is underway.
Which rather confirms the need for it as per the extract of her letter.


Academics criticise awarding of an OBE to 'anti-trans' professor
https://mol.im/a/9123083

[HecatesCats]

[quote carlaCox]Kathleen Stock's book Material Girls is now available to pre-order. I think pre-ordering will be a great way to show our support (and I really want to read the book!). Adding the link to Waterstones as Amazon are a-holes:

www.waterstones.com/book/material-girls/kathleen-stock/9780349726601[/quote]
🙏

[SunsetBeetch]

@UppityPuppity

Re AOC - you can’t have the former without the latter.

True enough.

To think, I was thrilled when AOC first appeared on the scene...sigh...

[UppityPuppity]

Re AOC - you can’t have the former without the latter.

[SunsetBeetch]

Seems appropriate:

[carlaCox]

Kathleen Stock's book Material Girls is now available to pre-order. I think pre-ordering will be a great way to show our support (and I really want to read the book!). Adding the link to Waterstones as Amazon are a-holes:

www.waterstones.com/book/material-girls/kathleen-stock/9780349726601

[ArabellaScott]

That is great. Who wrote it?

[SunsetBeetch]

Oh that's fab, HecatesCats

[SunsetBeetch]

Here is the reponse of someone Nathan tried to wokescold.

[UppityPuppity]

Oooh. Thanks. OBE for Free Speech!!!

[HecatesCats]

For those not on Twitter

[HecatesCats]

Professor Stock shared the explanation behind the OBE: 

twitter.com/docstockk/status/1347254941186990086?s=21

[SunsetBeetch]

This is good from Glinner's site.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-beclowning-of-academia?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzI1Nzc0MywicG9zdF9pZCI6MzExMDM2MjgsIl8iOiJnbUc2bSIsImlhdCI6MTYxMDA0MDUwMywiZXhwIjoxNjEwMDQ0MTAzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjczMDkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.jTpCRV4j_NrAh3zwz0XCdmDtcN88sEb8bmptKNcytTw

[ArabellaScott]

YY, Chatty. Mirroring politics.

[ChattyLion]

That is a good response. As with anything- Brexit, Trump, the important work is about understanding why it’s happening and trying to work out how the fuck to get people back working together with less one-sidedly authoritarian political division, and more debate among colleagues.
That requires leadership to inspire consensus. I see fuck all of that in academia so I think there’s a really serious problem here. Some people are trying to making a careerist self serving virtue out of propping up a broken status quo and at the moment there’s no incentive for them not to do that. It’s not enough to write this off as Ivory tower nonsense, academics serve a purpose which we could benefit from.

[UppityPuppity]

Good response

‘how supposedly morally serious people can blithely shove poor, abused, imprisoned women under the bus for the sake of essentially, middle class manners in academia’

mobile.twitter.com/Miroandrej/status/1346786499480735744

Dr KS.

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

My feeling is that the brightest and best who might have been attracted to an academic career in the past are now often deciding against it, but as I am not an academic maybe this is just blind prejudice on my part. Even putting aside the micromanagement issue, it's just not well paid enough for the workload these days.

[Nonsensetower]

Wise words from W0nderD0g - academia has changed much, even compared to the early 2000s. Are bad conditions and crazy workloads making people self-righteous and aggressive?

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

A million years ago when I was a student (early 1980s, actually) academics in our department (Arts subject, high-ranked UK university, not Oxbridge) had a very nice life with good work/life balance. They had status in society, complete freedom to decide for themselves what they wanted to research, minimal teaching load, no REF, no student feedback, very little bureaucracy, gold-plated final salary pension scheme. No idea how the salary compared with other professional jobs but my impression was it was comparable with senior teachers and civil servants. We had several lecturers who commuted in once a week in term-time and worked from home the rest of the time. Some of them published very little in a long working life.

I remember the time another student and I were trying to fix a time for our regular tutorial with a lecturer. Eventually he said apologetically he could see nothing else for it, it would have to be 9am. This was unheard of. Nothing else in the department started before 10 and most of our lectures were at 11, 12 or 2. By 4pm the department was mostly empty.

In spite of this, I consider the education I got during those happy, relaxed years was beyond price.

Changed times. The pendulum has swung far, far too much. Academic freedom and enquiry can't possibly thrive in the micromanaged world of HE in the 2020s.

[thereplycamefromanchorage]

They are so fucking self righteous these people, and so utterly unaware of their misogyny.

[RoyalCorgi]

I thought these people were supposed to be intelligent? How is it possible to be both so dim-witted and so sloppy about the facts and attain a position as a philosopher at a reputable university?

[ArabellaScott]

A very personal witch-hunt, then.

What a grubby little man.

[Manderleyagain]

Oseroff (in the screen shot calling out people who haven't signed) is the one who had to retract defamatory statements about stock a year or two ago. There are some philosophers who have been 'anti-stock' with missionary zeal for a while.

On the issue of peer review - humanities journals are peer reviewed. Stock hasn't managed to get an article on gender published in a peer reviewed journal. Others have - I can think of 2 male philosophers who've had gender critical positions published after peer review - but they get a lot less crap from the philosophy discipline for it than stock.