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Have you noticed this too?

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LiteratureMichigan · 13/12/2020 21:57

the amount of women and teenagers freezing their faces, lobbing off nose cartilage and pumping fillers into their lips to the point of bursting has become normalised particularly amongst younger women. (I've observed that the pixie nose/big lip/sharp chin and jaw injections seems more common amongst white women for some reason. Butt injections and BBL surgery more common amongst black women and Brazilians.)

If you don't know what I'm talking about pls check out the subreddit "botchedsurgeries" or "Instagramreality"

Women are flying to countries for surgery on the cheap and getting seriously ill or even dying.

I can't help but feeling like all of this is "wrong" and the girls are being misinformed but then I remind myself I enjoy fake lashes, bit of makeup, false nails occasionally etc. and I don't want to tar everybody with the same brush or be insensitive or hypocritical. I know that for some surgery can be a huge confidence booster and look very natural. This doesn't concern me so much. It's the trendy barbie, pixie look with tiny noses and unnaturally hourglass figures that I find unsettling. Also noticed a trend of teens going to Turkey to have their teeth shaved down to fine points for veneers to be applied. What's going on? Surely this is madness and mass body dysmorphia.

I imagine our generation will be known as the blurred distorted face era.

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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 14/12/2020 18:10

And the orange skin...

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NotImpossible · 14/12/2020 17:55

I've often thought that, on some younger women, a lot of makeup actually ages them horrendously. Same with cosmetic procedures. I do get why someone my age might fancy it but I've never ever understood why people in their early 20s do. (This is from a lifelong make up avoider who hates anything 'fake' - lashes, nails etc so I'm not really impartial on the subject!)

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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 14/12/2020 17:48

I am accused of rolling my eyes so loud people can hear them... cheeky sods🙄 apparently I growl too...

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Echobelly · 14/12/2020 17:48

I think it's a pretty small minority that go as far as surgery - most of them just seem to do exaggerated effects with makeup, which looks pretty daft to my mind. Also I feel sad for them as when can you just be yourself when you're that made up the moment you're out of bed.

I have always been mostly makeup free - I use it to make me feel and look nice so I can special when it's on, not as something required for me to go out in public and that I look bad without. I have expressed to DD (12) that it's good to have fun with fashion and make-up, but it shouldn't become a chore that you feel you have to 'get right' every day.

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AcornAutumn · 14/12/2020 17:47

@ThatIsNotMyUsername

But Acorn - it was frozen up around her brow line!

Just the one... I could see other people on the call and their expressions were quite amusing when you saw them look - then look again - I thought one contact (Not known for his fact) was going to say something (he opened his mouth like a goldfish then said ‘oh, you’ve...had..... your hair done?? Looks...nice?’.

That could be me in a permanent state of disapproval throughout the meeting

No seriously, I know it’s because of work gone wrong, it’s just a running joke that people watch my left eyebrow for signs of what I think.

Just saw a picture f someone leaving Little Mix. Looks like sheets of latex makeup. Is it latex for stage stuff?
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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 14/12/2020 17:42

My husband had a colleague who had had her eyebrows tattooed on. He said they were very broad and black, and he hadn’t come across this before.

He called me up to ask if this was an thing’ or if she had maybe had an accident and had them burned off or something.

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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 14/12/2020 17:40

But Acorn - it was frozen up around her brow line!

Just the one... I could see other people on the call and their expressions were quite amusing when you saw them look - then look again - I thought one contact (Not known for his fact) was going to say something (he opened his mouth like a goldfish then said ‘oh, you’ve...had..... your hair done?? Looks...nice?’.

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SingingSands · 14/12/2020 17:36

A young colleague of mine and her friend have recently returned from Turkey with new teeth. They look like Ross from friends in that episode where he gets his teeth whitened.

I'm convinced they will have problems in the next 5-10 yrs, but they're not interested. They just want instant results now. They have had lip fillers, already have heavy duty eyelash extensions, brows done, and are considering Botox next. They are 22 years old FFS!

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AcornAutumn · 14/12/2020 17:25

@ThatIsNotMyUsername

I was on a conference call and a woman I know well popped up. She’s had her eyebrows done. One was in the usual place and the other was much higher up. I was willing it down throughout the meeting.

This made me laugh because I’m the one who raises an eyebrow when I hear dodgy stuff in meetings 😂
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LeftHandDown · 14/12/2020 17:18

I had to complete a dentist questionnaire recently, along with the usual any health problems we need to know about, was another compulsory questionnaire asking are you happy with your smile, wonky teeth, their colour, what about invisalign or whiteners? How's your face do you need fillers for those wrinkles?

As I ran my tongue round my wonky, yellow teeth, I did wonder how many women read the questionnaire and think about jumping on the commercial bandwagon in order to become 'perfect'.

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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 14/12/2020 15:33

I was on a conference call and a woman I know well popped up. She’s had her eyebrows done. One was in the usual place and the other was much higher up. I was willing it down throughout the meeting.

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PlanDeRaccordement · 14/12/2020 15:07

@Siameasy

This is true Plan. My nieces (12 and 16) thought the Kardashians’ bottoms were 100% natural

Exactly. Even we on mumsnet sometimes fall for it. There was recently a thread about Tess Daly and “how does she do it” looking ten years younger with posters thinking it was all done to genetics, exercise, good diet, spf moisturiser, being rich and stress free. Nope. She’s had work done.
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AcornAutumn · 14/12/2020 14:33

@Siameasy

This is true Plan. My nieces (12 and 16) thought the Kardashians’ bottoms were 100% natural

That might be because of women like me 😂

Mine is completely natural and unwanted!
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Siameasy · 14/12/2020 14:28

This is true Plan. My nieces (12 and 16) thought the Kardashians’ bottoms were 100% natural

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PlanDeRaccordement · 14/12/2020 12:41

It doesn’t help, of course, that models and celebrities get tons of plastic surgery done and then deny it all and tell young people that they are naturally all that gorgeous. They constantly do this usually while selling a skin care or cosmetics range. To me it’s so obvious when celebrities have gotten work done, but to younger people it is not and they then compare themselves to these “natural beauties” and feel inadequate and ugly.

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AcornAutumn · 14/12/2020 12:39

Cant find the boohoo advert, curious

I don’t see adverts so am very out of touch - probably just as well!

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Siameasy · 14/12/2020 12:36

Social media/internet is not safe for teenage girls. They are safer going down the park with their mates smoking a fag or drinking white lightning.

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AcornAutumn · 14/12/2020 12:32

[quote CherieMarch]@AcornAutumn well did you know there is now a new treatment called Brow Thread Lift that's all the rage. Where you guessed it thread is applied under the skin and then tugged on. And I'm not talking about 50yr olds this treatment is targeted at the 20yr old age range.[/quote]
I didn’t guess that at all.

It gets madder and madder.

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PlantMam · 14/12/2020 12:19

I remember either a Guardian or
Observer magazine article about this, all the way back in 2004 ish. IIRC it talked about how many of the female actors in Hollywood movies are becoming increasingly homogeneous looks-wise, due to the rise in cosmetic procedures and using the same surgeons.

It’s definitely gotten way more common now, and way more extreme, and more and more non-celebs are getting sucked in as it all seems to be packaged together as ‘aspirational’ yet also obtainable, due to the influence of the internet.

People are trying to become their own internet avatars and instead of taking images of good looking celebs along to plastic surgery consults, they are taking heavily filtered photos of themselves, wanting to be a real life version of the self they present themselves to be online.

It’s most obvious in young women, but this kind of idealised desire bordering on dysmorphia affects young men too - restricted diets, steroid abuse, obsessive work outs and filler/Botox/tanning pills and cosmetic procedures are all on the rise.

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CherieMarch · 14/12/2020 12:15

@AcornAutumn well did you know there is now a new treatment called Brow Thread Lift that's all the rage. Where you guessed it thread is applied under the skin and then tugged on. And I'm not talking about 50yr olds this treatment is targeted at the 20yr old age range.

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CherieMarch · 14/12/2020 12:12

There is a cosmetic surgeon who goes by the name Victorian Cosmetic Institute doing fantastic work on YouTube educating women on the dangers of dermal fillers etc.

One of the more concerning aspects to me is that filler is being provided for as though it's as temporary and harmless as a manicure. I also find the uniformity bland and not very beautiful. Diversity in faces is lovely and charming.
A quick IG search and I found:

Instagram.com/Derma_beauty_clinic

Instagram.com/Chantelleyface_aesthetics

Instagram.com/Shaped_aestheticsuk

Instagram.com/Dluxeaesthetics

It is worrying but I don't think much can be done atm unfortunately and it's a fashion that will fade (and probably leave a lot of women with muscle and tissue problems). I do know someone who is going through the process of having her face filler "dissolved" and there have been a few celebrities more recently do the same so that's something although I can't help but wonder if they'll be left feeling incomplete and not pretty enough anymore and have health problems due to longterm dermal fillers🤷🏻‍♀️😒

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AcornAutumn · 14/12/2020 12:11

The startled look is the eyebrows I think

I’m not in the office now but I used to hate it when there was a knock on the door and one of those faces that was all brows and lips used to come in.

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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 14/12/2020 12:09

I used to see youngish women with frozen shiny faces and pointy lips on the gym. Now I see young women all over the place with that look. I don’t think it looks pretty - but then I’m certain they aren’t doing nor for my benefit!

DH says they have a startled look of a goosed Barbie Doll.

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BlueCatRedCat · 14/12/2020 11:57

There was a TV ad campaign recently for - I think - Boo Hoo. 2 women in a ski resort. Their faces looked frightening. I actually thought they were drag queens when I first saw it.

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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 14/12/2020 11:05

Sorry my post was supposed to reference plan as i agree completely

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