La Leche League FB page

[HopeClearwater]

The ‘LLLGB Because Breastfeeding Matters‘ Facebook page is making a big thing of Transgender Awareness Week and attempting to indicate it is right-on and super-woke with mention of ‘chest-feeding’. Plenty of women are on there approving its ‘inclusiveness’ and even suggesting we use the term ‘body feeding’

So much crap being spouted on there I’m ready to explode ...

[Cailleach1]

This is really sad. Breastfeeding support was missing for quite a swathe of a generation whose own mothers weren't able to give advice from experience. Why wouldn't La Leche just centre breast feeding? Without all that noise. What part of someone's 'chest' would the baby latch onto?

Why are these people f*cking with important things like this?

[BeaufortScale]

I watched this play out on FB. The LLL line seems to be that you should use the words that the person you’re dealing with prefers - which is obviously right.

But in terms of that stayed up and what was deleted:

• personal attacks stayed up (by those arguing for body feeding etc)
  
• trolling (as in, I’m trolling this post because you’re all transphobes who won’t listen) stayed up
  
• calling someone cis despite them saying they found it offensive stayed up (and was repeated, with emphasis)
  
• posts asking about the risks of medication (to the baby) to induce lactation in people born male were taken down
  
• posts asking about maintaining single sex spaces were taken down
  
• other posts went before I could see them, I don’t know what they said but they were accused of faux innocent questions
  

So while the LLL policy says one thing (I’ve checked out their web page, it’s balanced and carefully worded), their moderation of the comments on the post says another.

[ThatIsNotMyUsername]

I suspect those managing social media channels tend to be more on the untrained and right-on side.

[DaisiesandButtercups]

I think much effort has been made to capture organisations and services which specifically relate to women and girls and this is a prime example.

I wonder how many breastfeeding counsellors, childbirth educators, brown owls, guiders, midwives, health visitors at the grass roots level are fully signed up to this.

I wonder how would any breastfeeding counsellor actually feel faced with the reality of what must currently be purely theoretical.

Are these groups actually bringing about their own dissolution?

How much of what LLL has actually stood for over the years would be wiped out by queer theory? Why were all these organisations so quick to adopt this position?

As I asked on a different thread are men’s health organisations and services under the same pressure? Are urologists changing all the language on urology wards to be less offensive/more inclusive?

[Vermeil]

Just had a scroll through. I notice that usually their posts get about 10-15 comments, and this one got 780. Looking through it’s all the usual, TRAs who’ve popped up out of nowhere, and the sort of woke middle class white women who always seem to jump on this sort of thing as though they have the god-given right to speak for everyone.

[DrDavidBanner]

Body feeding sounds a bit Jeffrey Dahmer to me 😨

[CatsCantCatchCriminals2]

@DrDavidBanner

Body feeding sounds a bit Jeffrey Dahmer to me 😨

😂

[TyroTerf]

Didn't men have breastplates on their armour?

They did. Nipples on same were considered superfluous. From comparing older with more recent usages, I suspect a chest/breast distinction developed to allow men to separate themselves from any hint of womanliness in the context of their sexualisation of women's mammary wossnames.

Everyone had a breast until the word became too sexualised, then men did their usual distancing act. Same old, same old.

Personally I hate chestfeeding because calling it breastfeeding helped me to desexualise my own and stop being bothered by them so much.