Women being moaned at for missing the hairdresser/beauty treatments.

[HeIenaDove]

Been thinking of starting this thread for a while . Ive seen women being criticised and comments like "its a pandemic Give your head a wobble" when they dare to mention they would like or need a haircut/ colour/wax.
In some cases by men. The same men who would moan about women neglecting themselves and letting themselves go during non pandemic times. Now expect women to change like a flick of a switch!

But expecting women to change the mindset after decades and decades of being expected to look a certain way and meet a certain standard is not so easy.

[HeIenaDove]

www.elle.com/uk/beauty/hair/a32578902/when-will-hairdressers-reopen-uk/

[Antibles]

Well they haven't and are very unlikely to so I'm not sure what your point is.

It's called a hypothetical but never mind. Helena gets it.

[HeIenaDove]

Ta Dido You have a good point Having thick layers means some of the grey is covered.

[HeIenaDove]

4th July So i might go for a colour change and go from dark brown to light.

[DidoLamenting]

Helena I'm as vain as you can hope to find but I'm really not bothered about grey growing in at the moment. It'll be a different story when/if we're back to normal.

Just remember no matter how bad you think your hair is someone else will think theirs is worse (and given you've said your hair is very thick I bet it's a lot nicer looking than many people's)

[HeIenaDove]

Thanks for the tips Dido. My fringe seems to be parting now where its been pinned. If it grows to a certain length by the time all this is done i may have it grow in with the rest of my hair and not have it cut back in.

[1forsorrow]

Have you tried one of these? Amazon has cheaper versions.

www.tweezerman.com/smooth-finish-facial-hair-remover.html

I think mine cost about £1.50 from Amazon, I love it. Something quite soothing about it which is weird as sometimes it can sting, I'm always amazed at how much hair is stuck in it when you've finished.

[SailingAwayIntoSunrise]

I had started toning down my blonde highlights as I'd gone too light and it wasn't looking like highlights but full head type thing.

I'm now thinking of dying my light brown hair at home and when I can, start again with highlights. The money spent at the hairdressers though, I'd rather not sign back up to that every 6 weeks in the new post C19 economy.

[DidoLamenting]

Ive missed one hair appointment and two chin waxes

Have you tried one of these? Amazon has cheaper versions.

www.tweezerman.com/smooth-finish-facial-hair-remover.html

[DidoLamenting]

Re. colour I have my roots done every five weeks My last hair appointment was the 12th March. I have a lot of grey coming through now and have been using the Loreal Magic Retouch root concealer spray

Mine was 21st March. The L'Oréal stuff works quite well. I go every 5 weeks to get my colour done and that could be stretched to every 6 weeks.

I'm not that bothered about grey coming through as so many people will be in the same boat but when lockdown ends I will not be embracing gray hair.

[Goosefoot]

It might be we'll see fewer women colouring in the near future - I think it's becoming a little more common for women to let their grey show anyway and not getting to the hairdresser might be a push for some.

[Splodgetastic]

Some things are just best left to the professionals, hair colouring and removal being just two of them. See also dentistry. I used to do my own hair (colour and cut) and it was okay but I have to say that my hairdresser does a much better job. I have less of a problem doing nails and so on. I don't really wear make-up unless I have a night out, job interview or important professional engagement at which third parties may be present but even then I sometimes don't bother. I must have saved lots of time over the years as even the most basic make-up takes me about ten or fifteen minutes and lots of people manage to achieve a much nicer "look" so imagine they are either artistically talented or spend a lot of time.

[HeIenaDove]

@Antibles Youve articulated it much better than i did.

Im missing having my roots done and my cut And my chin wax.

Posted this on another thread.

I bought snap hair clips, headbands and tortoiseshell bulldog hair clips yesterday for pinning my fringe off my face and out of my eyes. I already had/have bobby pins but they dont hold it for long.

I have what feels like a painful trapped nerve in my neck. I thought i must have slept awkwardly and its been like it for over a week.

It was DH who said Its probably where youve been doing those little head jerks because your fringe is in your eyes. Last night i couldnt sleep properly because it was bloody painful.

I cant cut it. I just dont have the expertise. And i was also touching my face more which we are not supposed to do.

Re. colour I have my roots done every five weeks My last hair appointment was the 12th March. I have a lot of grey coming through now and have been using the Loreal Magic Retouch root concealer spray. But my hair is so thick there are layers and layers coming through now because its been two months and that spray wont cover it all. I keep missing bits. For the same reason i dont want to home dye it myself It would take boxes of the stuff and end up a disaster.

Last weekend i reached a really low point and wanted to shave my head.

Did a Google and found there were lots of women feeling the same way and they have gone through with it.
Some are saying its a form of taking back control.

Much more of this and there will be less women who need the hairdresser

Then there is the fucking chin hair. That was last done on the 10th March.

Ive missed one hair appointment and two chin waxes. I tried facial hair removal cream 3 years ago. Thought id save a bit of money on wax appointments Followed all the instructions and still got a chemical burn.
I would not do this again. The last thing the NHS needs right now is me rocking up with a burn thats become infected.

[Goosefoot]

Part of the hair issue IMO is just that if you are used to getting it cut regularly, it seems difficult to manage. Maybe more if you usually wear your hair short. Mt daughter has decided to let hers grow out a bit as when she's tried before, it gets to a point where it looks like she's had a shock, and she gives up. It's now hetting past that point which is great, but she still finds it annoying that it flops in her face and yet she can't easily tie it back.

[HeIenaDove]

The workmen were saying goodbye and fist bumping and one said to the other "See you on Monday" i dont think it was a secret code!

[BrandyandBabycham]

See you on Monday? What does that mean?

[DidoLamenting]

What I'm saying is thatifrazors and all hair removal products did go out of stock and women's legs were forced into their natural hairy state, that would be the true test of men's apparent blithe and charming unconcern with our body hair

Well they haven't and are very unlikely to so I'm not sure what your point is. I'm continuing to shave legs and armpits and will carry on doing so even if I barely leave the back garden.

[Al1Langdownthecleghole]

it's important to express yourself as you choose, so if that means no Make-up take me as I am, that's fine. It is also fine to want to wear make up and have groomed hair. And if that means you aren't delighted at not being able to follow your usual beauty routine that's ok by me.

Here, DH has been moaning about needing a haircut as much as me, yet I haven't seen widescale condemnation of any men who share that view.

As an aside, I've given him a great mullet.

[lottiegarbanzo]

OK, maybe I should have said 'one' rather than you. My point was just that people can and do make choices, however mainstream something is and however much social pressure there is, in a generalised way, to do it.

There's certainly plenty of social pressure to drink, so much socialising organised around it, yet plenty of people, even and especially young people, choose not to drink at all, or do so sparingly.

I find that making a choice to ignore a partcular industry, more or less, means I quickly become blind to it and just miss out that section of the shop or take little notice. I think peer pressure is far more 'real' than advertising and that that's mostly about finding 'your own people' and choosing your own path in life. So I think the 'macro-scale' visibility of fashion and grooming products has little to do with the micro-scale choices and niches that affect individual lives.

Certainly the young 20-somethings I know don't wear much make up, because that's just not their tribe or their choice of look. So I do think it's still personal choice.

[Antibles]

Is that a euphemism?

[Antibles]

My point about armpit and leg hair is to show that that the grooming standards society holds women to in public are not being relaxed all that much in lockdown.

Where your legs are going to be visible and you are still able to do these things e.g yes by still being able to buy razors and off the shelf wax lots of women are still doing these things. In other words, the expectations are still there Supporting one of HelenaDove's OP points that lockdown hasn't magically switched off the way women have been conditioned to feel about their bodies.

However people are letting it all hang out in their homes right now, I don't expect to go back to the public swimming baths and suddenly see a massive increase in the women there with all their natural leg and armpit hair on display.

Zoom is a strange example to use. I'm seeing lots of women's bare legs every day in public in the nice weather - exercise, shopping, going to work.

What I'm saying is that if razors and all hair removal products did go out of stock and women's legs were forced into their natural hairy state, that would be the true test of men's apparent blithe and charming unconcern with our body hair. They are used to our barnet and us having brows. The other stuff? Not so much!

[Lamahaha]

You can easily swerve most of the beauty industry, just as you'd chose to swerve the meat industry if you're a vegetarian, the alcohol industry if you don't drink etc. All large, visible, heavily promoted and normalised industries. All a case of take it (on your own terms, to the extent that you want to), leave it, take an interest, dismiss with indifference. Up to you.

All of which I do, being in my late 60's, a vegetarian for the last 45 years, and non-social-drinker! I do know how to take it on my own terms, thank you.
But I was once young and impressionable and remember the pressure to be in fashion when I went to parties, my awkwardness with make-up (I absolutely hate the feel of both lipstick and jewellery) and inability to navigate that territory well. Thank goodness, I soon found my own two feet by becoming a hippie -- but I'm sorry for young girls these days, because the norm seems worse than it ever was.

[ZiggZagg]

[deydododatdodontdeydo]

I've done my front and back gardens on the money I've saved

Is that a euphemism?

[ZiggZagg]

My DH couldn't give a shit to be honest, he says he likes me more natural 🤷‍♀️in fact most men I know aren't arsed. The women I know are loving not having to spend £££'s on hair, nail, waxing appointments actually. I've done my front and back gardens on the money I've saved 🤣