City of London Corporation consultation is out (this covers Hampstead Ponds)

[SwearyG]

And it's awful

No mention of sex, no mention of impact on any stakeholders, all leading questions, and horrible clear intention to filter.

This will affect the wonderful space at Hampstead Ponds so I urge you all to complete it. I will be speaking to the Corporation about its clear bias and lack of adherence to guidelines.

[MrGHardy]

"I don't care"
"This will effect less than 1% of the population"

I think that says it all. No one ever thinks about the impact on people other than trans people.

[R0wantrees]

thread re Times Article:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3320557-City-of-Londons-sneaky-Consultation-to-end-its-Single-Sex-Spaces-in-Sunday-Times

[UpstartCrow]

''I don't care, I dont know, it doesn't affect me'' said the anti feminist

[Ereshkigal]

Give him time.

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

What a twat.

Also

If he hates feminists, I'm assuming he wants women in the kitchen making him sandwiches etc. So, shouldn't be be 100% on board with the genderists? I mean, forget shit posting, he can do shit in real life if this keeps going? Like LM of teen MRA "race for life is sexist and as bad as segregation" fame, men like this can now say they are women and disrupt it all easily.

[Ereshkigal]

Alt right anti feminist vlogger Sargon of Akkad has made a video of himself filling it in so I imagine they will be getting some interesting responses from his followers!

[IAmLurkacus]

Loving the remarks from Tom Jenkins and also the general public going ‘WTAF’ in the comments section Well done to everyone who’s forcing this to be discussed publicly.

[SwearyG]

A better, but far longer, explanation is on the ManFriday website

It really shows the thought and respect the Corporation of London have for women and girls.

[thebewilderness]

Driving the women out of the public sphere continues apace.

[UpstartCrow]

They include toilets in a primary school

[SwearyG]

Forgot the share token. Better link

[UpstartCrow]

I can't read the entire article but the bit that's visible spells it out in plain English. There isn't any way to say it that makes it sound reasonable.

[SwearyG]

It’s in The Times today - they speak about the impact but not the misuse of the word gender. I think that your average human will read it and think ridiculous won’t they?

[AncientLights]

@Bowlofbablefish - not on Twitter anymore, my account offended its algorithm some time back and I can't be arsed with the cesspit now.

[Hygge]

@beldaran that list is really shocking when you see it written down.

I found it hard to read so I've copied it out so it might be easier for people to read or share elsewhere.





Here is a list of the Human Rights of Women that transactivism is eliminating. 

No one is saying trans-identified individuals should not have rights (civil protections such as housing, employment, etc), but what IS wrong is that transactivists are erasing females as a protected sex class and erasing the sex-based protections of women and girls.

Read this list - and wonder. And then, get angry. Here is the list, prepared by Gallus Mag, a blogger and writer in the women's community...



Removing the legal right of women to organise politically against sex-based oppression by males.

Removing the legal right of women to assemble outside the presence of men.

Removing the legal right of women to educational programs created for women outside the presence of men. 



Eliminating data collection of sex-based inequalities in areas where females are underrepresented.

Elimination of sex-based crime statistics. 



Elimination of athletic programs and sports competition for women and girls.



Removing the legal right of women to be free from the presence of men in areas of public accommodation where nudity occurs. 



Elimination of grants, scholarships, board and trustee designations, representative positions and affirmative programs for women. 


Removing the legal right of women to create reproductive clinics, rape crisis services, support groups, or any organisation for females. 



Eliminating media and all public discourse for females. 



Removal of the right of journalists to report sex, and history, of subjects. 


Eliminating the legal right of lesbians to congregate publicly.



Elimination of lesbian-specific organisations and advocacy groups. 



Removing the legal right of women to free speech related to sex roles and gender.



Elimination of the legal right of women to protection from state-enforced sex roles (appearance / behaviour / thought).



Elimination fo the legal right of girls to protection from state-enforced sex-roles in public education. 



Elimination from the patient right of dependent females to hospital / facility bed assignments separate from males. 



Elimination of the right of dependent females to prefer female providers fo their immediate personal care requirements. 



Elimination foo the human right of female prisoners under state confinement to be housed separately from male prisoners.




Unlike any other social justice movement in history, the contemporary push for "transgender rights" (as it is currently being played out) are unique in that they are based on eliminating the sex-based rights and protections of women and girls - M

[TheCountryGirl]

It is really shocking when you see it all listed like that.😡

[beldaran]

There's an interesting tweet in Katie Hopkins replies, I don't know how to copy it over here but I've attached it below. Credit to the original poster whom ever that may be!

[Bowlofbabelfish]

you on Twitter? I’m not or I would...

[AncientLights]

Oh x posted with Bowl.

[AncientLights]

Looks like Katie Hopkins doesn't realise the man can keep his penis and still be regarded as a woman.

[Bowlofbabelfish]

Someone needs to tweet Katie about the number who retain penises....

Excellent work by mmmeow.

[QuarksandLeptons]

Regarding making a complaint, someone on Twitter did a thorough analysis of where and how the survey is in breach of the city of London’s rules:


twitter.com/mmmmmmeow/status/1022552351998205953?s=21

@cityoflondon @citylordmayor : 1) I cannot see your ‘public consultation on gender identity’ on your ‘Public Consultations’ webpage or anywhere else on your website. Why is it only being made available via Twitter? This is a clear violation of due process. @sadiqkhan @lgacomms

Especially since the Chair of your consultation ‘blocks’ feminists/women he disagrees with on Twitter - thereby excluding them from the political process.

Para 2.23 refers to publishing public consultations on your website. Para 2.24 says you will ‘make information accessible to all members of society in such a way as to meet the requirements of the Equality Act 2010’. I suggest that the Chair of the consultation ...

... blocking women on Twitter, whilst Twitter is currently the only means by which you are disseminating information about this consultation, constitutes a violation of para 2.24 vis-a-vis the Equality Act’s protected characteristic of ‘sex’.

3) In line with your statement at para 2.56 et seq regarding ‘Integrated Impact Assessment’ and in particular para 2.60 ‘Equalities Impact Assessment’ - please can you direct me to your pre-consultation Equalities Impact Assessment for this gender identity public consultation?

Please can I also point out to you that at para 2.60 you illegally replace the Equality Act 2010 protected characteristic of ‘sex’ with the term ‘gender’, which has no protection under the Equality Act.

4) As a public authority, you must adhere to the Public Sector Equality Duty under s149 of the Equality Act 2010, with regard to those who have a ‘protected characteristic’ under the Act, one of which is ‘sex’.


As your consultation and questionnaire refer to the undefined term ‘gender’, not ‘sex’, please explain how this consultation adheres to the PSED.
Also please explain what PSED assessment you have done in relation to the implementation of policies as a result of this consultation

Apologies, I think one of my messages above got in the wrong order. I hope my points are clear nonetheless. Thank you, and I look forward to your responses and additional information for the benefit of all concerned.

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Also... Katie Hopkins has tweeted about it which must mean that this topic is starting to break into the public consciousness

twitter.com/kthopkins/status/1022980693301886977?s=21

“You utter donkeys *@cityoflondon Your survey has completely cocked up sex & gender. If EVEN I can see this, YOU are royally screwed. (a cat with no legs is not a slug. Just as a man with no penis is not a woman). Thank you.”

[arranfan]

yet he doesn't seem to have had a proper job since leaving university. Maybe the non-binary oppression is the greatest oppression after all

I'm sure Justine would still consider EL's life to be a "million times" harder than her own...

[R0wantrees]

I am not a resident or a business in the City, but I believe the erosion of women's rights is my business, no matter where this is happening.

There are some TRAs from USA etc who are completing the consultation and have commented on the City of London's announcement of the consultation on twitter:

twitter.com/cityoflondon/status/1022417737723916288

[Ereshkigal]

If the thread is still being read, it may be worth noting that one of the Livery Companies, the Leathersellers, have given a substantial grant to the non-gender critical organisation named after a mythical sea creature. As is their right, obviously.

Interesting.