City of London Corporation consultation is out (this covers Hampstead Ponds)

[SwearyG]

And it's awful

No mention of sex, no mention of impact on any stakeholders, all leading questions, and horrible clear intention to filter.

This will affect the wonderful space at Hampstead Ponds so I urge you all to complete it. I will be speaking to the Corporation about its clear bias and lack of adherence to guidelines.

[DurtySarf]

Another thought: won't holding the survey over the summer mean that parents of pupils at the single sex schools in the City be effectively disenfranchised?

[thebewilderness]

Here is the Quote of the Day: "Replacing biological sex with 'gender identity' is like replacing modern medicine with prayer."

[Wanderabout]

Vice can suck my nonexistent lady dick.

[SwearyG]

ManFriday have asked this. Their comments have been noted but no action will be taken.

[JackyHolyoake]

DurtySarf A useful thread :

twitter.com/MMMMMMeow/status/1022552351998205953

[thebewilderness]

DurtySarf
Yes, he does seem to be. He is also in violation of the Equality Act.

[DurtySarf]

Longtime lurker here, have never posted in FWR before as I never felt I could add to the collective wisdom here.

But today I have a question. Is Mr Lord acting contrary to the spirit of the code of conduct for City of London Corporation members?

Specifically:

OBJECTIVITY: Holders of public office must act and take decisions impartially, fairly
and on merit, using the best evidence and without discrimination or bias.
d) ACCOUNTABILITY: Holders of public office are accountable to the public for their
decisions and actions and must submit themselves to the scrutiny necessary to
ensure this.
e) OPENNESS: Holders of public office should act and take decisions in an open and
transparent manner. Information should not be withheld from the public unless there
are clear and lawful reasons for so doing.

And also:

1. As a Member your conduct shall in particular address the Seven Principles of Public Life
   

by:
a) Championing the public interest, taking into account the needs of your constituents,
including those that did not vote for you, and the community as a whole.
b) Dealing with representations or enquiries from residents, City voters, members of
our communities and visitors fairly, appropriately and impartially.
c) Not allowing other pressures, including the financial interests of yourself or others
connected to you, to deter you from pursuing constituents’ casework, the interests
of the Corporation or the good governance of the Corporation in a proper manner.
d) Exercising independent judgement and not compromising your position by allowing
individuals or organisations to improperly influence you in the performance of your
official duties by means of any financial or other obligations.
e) Listening to the interests of all parties, including relevant advice from statutory and
other professional officers, taking all relevant information into consideration,
remaining objective and making decisions on merit.
f) Being accountable for your decisions and co-operating when scrutinised internally
and externally, including by constituents.
g) Contributing to making the Corporation’s decision-making processes as open and
transparent as possible to enable constituents to understand the reasoning behind
those decisions and to be informed when holding you and other Members to
account, and not seeking to prevent any person from obtaining information that they
are entitled to by law.

And

l) Always treating people with respect, including the organisations and constituents
that you engage with and those that you work alongside, and not bullying, harassing
(including sexually harassing), intimidating or attempting to intimidate any person.
m) Not doing anything which could reasonably be regarded as bringing your office or
authority into disrepute.
n) Upholding the Corporation’s obligations under the Equality Act 2010 by promoting
equality, and not discriminating unlawfully against any person on the grounds of
race, gender, disability, religion or belief, sexual orientation or age.

Perhaps ManFriday would like to ask their contact at the Corporation about this?

[thebewilderness]

More an more it appears that agencies are trying to change the laws because they have been in violation of the laws, so they want to make their violations retroactively legal.

[ThelmaRB]

Completed. Banged on about sex gender conflation, nonsense of gender assigned at birth, need to protect women/girls from predatory men etc etc. Thank goodness for the comment boxes. Raging at the ignorant entitled madness of it all. Thanks so much Sweary and Amy for fighting the good fight on this along with everyone else.

[TheFemaleGaze]

www.vice.com/en_uk/article/ywkb4k/hampsteads-ladies-pond-shows-why-millennials-love-wild-swimming

An article about the Ladies Pond...

[TransplantsArePlants]

foxy

Done. What a load of old shite that was.

[foxyliz26]

I urge you all to complete submissions on this consultation ! if only to get any angst off your chests

but as this Government has already informed you , it doesn't intend to change the EA 2010

City of London Corporation will have to comply with the EA 2010

[R0wantrees]

What about the breast-bearing though?

'Yes, we roll up our trouser legs - but there's nothing sinister about us' The truth about freemasons in Wales

(extract)
"In a revealing insight into the world behind the closed door of the lodge, the body in Wales says there is no conspiracy behind freemasonry – and that its members are “good men”.

“There are very few things that are secret in freemasonry, what they call the modes of recognition – the funny handshakes, the words given to candidates when they come in,” provincial grand master Gareth Jones said.

“They are just part of a bit of theatre and drama, which takes people through a journey which is meant to represent their journey on this earth.”

He said there is nothing sinister about their ceremonies.

“Why do we roll up our trouser leg when we are getting initiated?” dad-of-two and grandfather-of-one Gareth said.

“There is a good reason. It is meant to demonstrate that you’re a free man, that you’re not wearing a shackle.

“Why do we bear our left breast? It’s to show that you’re a man.”

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/yes-roll-up-trouser-legs-10324096

[miri1985]

So men, trans men, trans women, non binary are all allowed into the masons its only women who aren't trans who not allowed in according to what Lord has linked.

Not only is this not allowed under the equality act under sex, its also not allowed under gender reassignment, you can't treat those who have had their gender reassigned more favourably than the gender they are purporting to be. I doubt the masons would be able to claim that their policies are a " positive action to encourage or develop transsexuals to participate in a role or activity in which they are under-represented or disadvantaged"

How on earth are they still allowed to use council properties? Wonder could it have anything to do with the amount of masons on the council

[TransplantsArePlants]

R0wan

Ooh interesting to see Suzanne Moore on that thread.

[Ereshkigal]

Janice

[Bowlofbabelfish]

Nice one Janice.... :)

[R0wantrees]

Janice Turner may be #ManFriday Freemason!

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1023901050976313347

[JackyHolyoake]

Very revealing thread about the legality of this so-called public consultation by City of London:

twitter.com/MMMMMMeow/status/1022552351998205953

[R0wantrees]

I asked previously on the thread:
//edwardlord.org/2016/04/28/diversity-champion-it-is-time-for-me-to-come-out-i-am-a-freemason/

is it naive of me to want to see the diversity and equality policy of the freemasons?

I am also curious to know if (as it seems statistically possible) a freemason transitioned, would they (as per the Girl Guides) be encouraged to leave the all-male society? Or is Freemasonary more accomodating of gender identity, allowing transwomen to continue to contribute and play an active role in this this single sex society?

Might The Freemasons demonstrate a more progressive embrace of male gender identities than some might expect?

Yes indeed, the Freemason allow both transmen to join and transwomen to remain members of the male lodge.

Transwomen can also transfer to the female lodge after they have transitioned should they prefer.

So the only group excluded from male only Masonic lodges are XX women who are not transmen

Helen Lewis comments:
twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1023841329707732992

[R0wantrees]

Criticism of The Times / Andrew Gilligan for the article yesterday & support for Edward Lord by prominant TRAs.

twitter.com/edwardlord/status/1023506373445910528

Pink News:
//www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/29/the-sunday-times-comes-under-fire-for-scaremongering-and-anti-trans-article-on-womens-toilets/

Andrew Gilligan & Benjamin Cohen (PN)
//twitter.com/mragilligan/status/1023586297989025794

[thebewilderness]

I suggest every council and company operating on the fraudulent list of protected categories under the EA be charged with discrimination against women.
Here is how it is done.
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/discrimination/taking-action-about-discrimination/taking-legal-action-about-discrimination/

[Ereshkigal]

I know what you mean about Mr of Akkad.

[hownowbrowncoww]

Thanks op gave my what for.

[Needmoresleep]

Forget about the impact of Brexit. If people running the City are so thick that they can't recognise a loaded survey, then what hope have we for the future of financial services.

Since when was geneder and sex interchageable?

And since when did these stuck up, arrogant guild members, feel able to completely ignore the needs of women, including those who dont have their priviledge. Would they feel happy for their teenage daughters to share public toilets and changing rooms with random men who have chosen to self-declare as women, perhaps at quiet times of the day, and with inadequet security. I think not. They should be ashamed at their chauvanism/misogeny.