Article on the funding behind transgender lobbying organisations

[TerfyTheCuntingTerf]

Not sure what the reputation of the source is like, but I found this article very interesting. If in doubt, follow the money...

thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

From the article:

These men and others, including pharmaceutical companies and the U.S. government, are sending millions of dollars to LGBT causes. Overall reported global spending on LGBT is now estimated at $424 million. From 2003-2013, reported funding for transgender issues increased more than eightfold, growing at threefold the increase of LGBTQ funding overall, which quadrupled from 2003 to 2012. This huge spike in funding happened at the same time transgenderism began gaining traction in American culture.

$424 million is a lot of money. Is it enough to change laws, uproot language and force new speech on the public, to censor, to create an atmosphere of threat for those who do not comply with gender identity ideology?

[SerenityNowwwww]

These are the people who shout that woman’s groups are massively funded by Christian and right wing groups in the states...

[Antibles]

Bump.

[R0wantrees]

Transgender Trend article by SunMum following second episode of Butterfly on ITV: “They Look Normal” – The Case For Puberty Blockers

concludes:
"Faced with this difficult choice any parent might question the advice of the GIDS team. But if it was my child I would do some research. I would check every footnote and ask who benefited from every intervention on offer. I would reject simple or emotive answers and would have no patience with euphemism or bland reassurance. I would think hard because the future happiness of my child was in my hands.

And as I did so, I would become increasingly concerned about the experimental nature of the puberty blocker protocol and the quality of the evidence on which it is based. A review published in 2018 mentions ‘Low-quality evidence’ and ‘knowledge gaps’.

I would worry that puberty blockers have been used on human subjects before any animal studies (normally it is the other way round). And I would not like the fact that sheep whose puberty is temporarily blocked with these drugs have lasting mental effects: ‘How worried should we be by these findings when we prescribe puberty blockers?’ asked a gender clinician on hearing these findings last week at a conference at the Tavistock clinic. To which the researcher could only answer: ‘That’s a question for clinicians.’ Because GnRHa treatment produces ‘a drop of around 8 points’ in IQ, its value even as a treatment for precocious puberty in children is now being questioned.

I would find out that in MtF patients the loss of bone strength caused by puberty blockade is not fully compensated by later cross sex hormones. I would be concerned that the 22 year follow up on the first puberty blocked kid (who was FTM) reveals a handsome, professionally successful man who has been hindered from maintaining an intimate sexual relationship by shame at their constructed genitalia:

‘B considered it likely that his need to distance himself from her had been related to his shame about his genital appearance and his feelings of inadequacy in sexual matters.’

I would want to know why a drug company, Ferring, sponsored the crucial Dutch trial into puberty blockers: the 2006 Delemarre-van de Waal and Cohen-Kettenis paper was ‘presented at the 4th Ferring Pharmaceuticals International Paediatric Endocrinology Symposium, Paris (2006)’ and Ferring Pharmaceuticals supported the publication of these proceedings.’

www.transgendertrend.com/puberty-blockers-safe/

[GulagsMyArse]

Thank you for all the contributions to this thread. I'm bookmarking.

[Justhadathought]

There are lots of men in positions of power and authority; with money and connections to back them up - who are fetishists and paedophiles. They're insidious and very scheming, and they protect each other.

I've had encounters with this sort of 'thing' on a couple of occasions in my life. Most people just dismiss paedophilia and paedophile rings as an outlandish and unlikely conspiracy; but it is true, and they are very active under the radar - in some of the highest offices of our land.

We only have to look at the example of David Challenor to see how these men ( & the women who turn a blind eye) get themselves into positions of power & influence and with direct access to children; or in Challenor's case, into positions where they can shape and influence policy.

It really is very dark. But that doesn't make it untrue.

[Invisible1234]

The grooming of children is too serious a matter to just ignore as a conspiracy theory...people experienced can see this for what it is.

I don't believe that the abolition of women's rights and endangerment of children can just be an unintended consequence, too many people want those outcomes. If you wanted to achieve those things, this would be the best way to do it.

[Annandale]

I agree with squishysquirmy and perking's posts, though i can't argue as well. I am not a fan of conspiracy theories. I also am deeply concerned about the nature of some of the unexpected new allies of 'women's rights' that i find myself on the same side as. There will be a backlash after all this.

[TimeLady]

Trying to eradicate malaria, like the Gates's foundation is doing, is to be applauded; trying to change the structure of society - when you don't even live there - is quite another matter.

[Ereshkigal]

That said, the fact of the matter is that Soros, with his top down money, exerts outsized influence on policies and thus subverts democratic mechanisms in shaping society. He also promoted escalation in Ukraine to a point that was reckless. He may have good intentions or he may not, but the fact that he is so isolated from all the consequences of the ideas he promotes, while we, the people live with it, makes this urge of his to shape the world very problematic.

And this is true for any billionaire who pursues some 'greater vision' with their money, be it Soros, the Kochs, the Pritzkers or whoever else.

This.

[Candidpeel]

Not sure if this has been posted before -- its a report of a funders strategy meeting on trans and intersex issues www.opensocietyfoundations.org/sites/default/files/advancing-trans%2A-movements-worldwide-20140917.pdf

[deepwatersolo]

I am very wary of this. Soros is too often attacked by right-wing governments, in highly anti-semitic terms. Soros's Open Society Institute has a history of funding democratisation, free media, women's rights, abortion rights. Transgender rights (to be free from violence and discrimnation) are one strand of many in the Open Society networks work. The right-wing government in Hungary who just pushed the "Stop Soros" law are anti-immigrant, anti-womens' rights and anti-semitic.

I agree that the rigtwing attacks on Soros are often beyond the pale ( (mean they are reframing a Jewish kid who tried to survive the Holocaust disguised as the son of some non Jewish Hungarian to make Soros Hitler's second coming, just cause he 'helped' his 'dad' in some business he had no control over. It is patently absurd and vile).

That said, the fact of the matter is that Soros, with his top down money, exerts outsized influence on policies and thus subverts democratic mechanisms in shaping society. He also promoted escalation in Ukraine to a point that was reckless. He may have good intentions or he may not, but the fact that he is so isolated from all the consequences of the ideas he promotes, while we, the people live with it, makes this urge of his to shape the world very problematic.

And this is true for any billionaire who pursues some 'greater vision' with their money, be it Soros, the Kochs, the Pritzkers or whoever else.

[R0wantrees]

Professor Michael Biggs' (Oxford) article:
'The Open Society Foundations & the transgender movement'
(extract)
"The transgender movement has transformed cultural norms and social institutions at breathtaking speed. Most of us, becoming acquainted with the trans issue for the first time, are astonished to discover the extent of the gender revolution. The movement has accomplished in a few years what the movements for women’s and for gay and lesbian rights took many decades to achieve.

Part of the explanation is the amount of money behind transgenderism. The Gender Industrial Complex, as we may call it, has many components. Lucrative sponsorship comes from pharmaceutical companies and medical providers. Charities originally established to fight for homosexual rights (like Human Rights Campaign in the United States and Stonewall in Britain) wield large budgets. Last but not least, three American billionaires have bankrolled the transgender movement on a global scale: Jennifer Pritzker, whose activities were detailed in another blogpost, Jon Stryker, and George Soros.

This blogpost focuses on the Open Society Foundations (OSF), funded by Soros. This is not easy to discuss because he is vilified by right-wingers, whose criticism sometimes degenerates into anti-semitism (Williamson 2018). Therefore those of us who are liberal or progressive tend to react instinctively by dismissing any scrutiny of Soros out of hand. This is unjustified, as I will show by providing some facts about how OSF has funded the transgender movement..."(continues)

//4thwavenow.com/2018/05/25/the-open-society-foundations-the-transgender-movement/

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3257819-Michael-Biggs-Sociology-Dept-Oxford-Free-speech-at-Oxford-Do-women-have-the-right-to-meet-to-discuss-legislation?pg=2

[Invisible1234]

This is top down rather than grassroots, we can see that. It's been accepted by Government/establishment and it's being implemented widely, it's all over our media, it's very well funded and debate is stifled...that should be a massive red flag for everyone.

[Forgotthebins]

I am very wary of this. Soros is too often attacked by right-wing governments, in highly anti-semitic terms. Soros's Open Society Institute has a history of funding democratisation, free media, women's rights, abortion rights. Transgender rights (to be free from violence and discrimnation) are one strand of many in the Open Society networks work. The right-wing government in Hungary who just pushed the "Stop Soros" law are anti-immigrant, anti-womens' rights and anti-semitic.

[TimeLady]

Interesting list of funders here for Transgender Europe

TGEU is grateful for the financial support received from the Rights, Equality & Citizenship Program of the European Union, the Open Society Foundations, the Dutch Government, the Arcus Foundation, the US State Department and the Heinrich-Böll-Stiftung.

tgeu.org/about/


Open Society is George Soros' foundation.....but why is the US State Department funding a European trans lobby group?

[Feminist4]

I'm far more worried about the anti- trsnsgender agenda.

[ohello]

Trying to manipulate people into disregarding what the Federalist has to say about transgenderism, by changing the subject to what is basically a ad hominen attack, is what people do when they've nothing else to say.

Address and refute the actual points raised against transgenderism, instead of changing the subject entirely. I could find negative things about any of you, and if we were to use your own principle, then we'd have to discount everything you say.

The Federalist article makes the point that it's not just limited to hormone pills for bio males, researchers frequently use the money from one grant to quietly study their own favorite and closely related subject, such as bio genetic engineering super humans and developing "store bought baby gestation bags" instead of regular pregnancy for as many people as can afford it. Imagine dictatorships being able to grow and brainwash their own army... LOTS of interest and profit for all of that, tinfoil hat not required.

You do you, but I'm doing me. And I do not assume that the super wealthy are too stupid to contemplate any of this, nor do I assume that career politicians are so naive as to ignore the blindingly obvious.

[ohello]

The Federalist article included a link to a pdf. www.wnd.com/files/tides.pdf. There are BILLIONS being spent pushing transgenderism:

"The Tides Foundation claims to have distributed $400 million in grants to progressive nonprofits since 2000. But the true amount must be significantly higher. That’s because according to the respected FoundationSearch.com philanthropy database, the Tides Foundation gave 14,246 grants totaling $630.6 million from 1999 through 2008"

But we need to add this

"In the same period, George Soros’s Open Society Institute, which has a much higher profile, handed out $901.4 million"

And that's only from two known sources, there's most likely more. Pardon me, I'm still reading all the links from links but figured you all would find that interesting if nobody else had posted it.

[FeistyOldBat]

Jane Mayer's book Dark Money gives a history of how very wealthy right wing conservatives, heavily influenced by the Koch Brothers, bought American politics by forcing legislation to remove limits on donations and provide anonymity to very large donors. If you read the book mentally substituting transgender issues for political influence you get the picture of what's happening, why and how, and realise that the names of those pushing the issues are the same, and the reasons are the same: greed.

[Ereshkigal]

I'm not sure exactly what law the proposed challenge involved and can't find it now. I just know that it focussed on the uncritical adoption of the Yogyakarta Principles.

[OldCrone]

Do you mean a legal challenge to the GRA reform if they decide to go ahead with it? I know there is a process for judicial review if the consultation was flawed, but I don't really know any more than that.

[Ereshkigal]

How on earth have I managed to live all these years without a self-defined gender identity? And why are people using the Yogyakarta Principles as some sort of higher authority which can't be questioned? The Scottish Government Consultation mentioned them as well, as some sort of justification for their proposal to change the GRA.

They do, you're right. I can't share it as it was in a private group, but I was reading a very interesting discussion about this the other day. Suggested that possibly this could be legally challenged.

[Melamin]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogyakarta_Principles

Never heard of them before. Are we all being forced to have a gender identity as a human right