Tris Osbourne

[FattyCat]

Dear God. I am actually lost for words.

[Datun]

Superlandlady

It’s been done.

Crickets.

[Superlandlady]

Surely we should be sending Liam's threat about the contact data and "I've Got the Power" to the actual people who can remove him? Those who are above him in the Labour Party?

[RedToothBrush]

Re the pretty intact data. It's because it's deliberately dehumanising. It's not contacts with women, they are merely data to be read, used and interpreted. Not listened to and respected.

It's the type of language fascists use to create 'an enemy'.

[RedToothBrush]

The reason I won't stand for an elected post is because I don't think my mental health could cope with the abuse that goes hand in hand with being a woman in that position.

I have given this considerable thought because I think the people who I represent deserve someone who isn't handicapped by mental health problems.

My mind boggles in the gap between reality and fantasy. Blocking and not listening to anyone who doesn't 'respect' you in a political roll, kind of missed the job description and brief when it comes to democracy.

[QuentinSummers]

Yep and incredibly disingenuous of cllr Osbourne to incorporate those 60 offenders with the 13000 males, and claim the numbers are tiny. He's a trombone.

[LangCleg]

QuentinSummers

According to the recent reporting and statistics release, there are about 60 trans-identified males in the male estate who are sex offenders.

We don't know how many male sex offenders with a GRC are already in the female estate but I know of at least two from press reports alone.

In the entire female estate, there are only 80 sex offenders (some of whom could actually be trans-identified with a GRC).

So, if self-ID comes in and those 60 sex offenders transfer to the female estate, the sex offender population there will grow by 80%. And that's at today's figures. Personally, I would expect opportunistic trans identification to see it double or even more.

The female estate is tiny in comparison to the male estate - 5,000 inmates compared to 80,000 inmates and fewer than 1,000 violent or sex offending prisoners. It has neither the space nor the resources to accommodate this number of prisoners who may be a danger to others or may be in danger themselves due to the nature of their offence.

It is stark, staring bonkers that government is even considering self-ID in prisons.

[SonicBoomBoom]

There is something very threatening and menacing about what Lily is saying about contact data.

I also feel like exploding with rage and helplessness.

[KarlosKKrinkelbeim]

The ICO is the uk privacy regulator. Please report these serious threatened DPA breaches to it

[RogueBiscuit]

Pretty contact data?

I feel like exploding. I'm off to complain about both these wankers.

[LangCleg]

Lily should be suspended for implying that they would inspect contact data for ideological purposes - this is a breach of the Labour code of conduct and, if they actually did it, illegal under the Data Protection Act.

Councillor Osbourne could certainly see a case for suspension made under the Labour code of conduct for a) the tweet calling a gender critical woman a "viper", and b) the tweet in which he said the Labour party doesn't want the votes of gender critical women because they are "bigots".

[99codeofconduct]

Rogue His Twitter account twitter.com/cllrtrisosborne & the associated bio mean that any tweet & indeed retweet (even without an endorsing comment) by him could be considered under the code of conduct.

This line in the code of conduct "You must not publish on social media material that a reasonable person would consider
offensive or abusive." would be the one to hang an allegation upon. This then leads to showing that he has not fulfilled "You must promote and support high standards of conduct when serving in your
public post".

Somebody has to make an allegation of breaching the code of conduct for a council to act. That somebody or many somebodies do not have to live in that council area.

[Collidascope]

That's awful, Quentin. The passive aggressive kiss, 'pretty contact data' (cos that's how us girls talk) and the thinly veiled threat.

[QuentinSummers]

Lily is apparently excited about being able to access women's personal information. Just what we need for a public servant mobile.twitter.com/sargesalute/status/937863596545101824

[QuentinSummers]

I posted about that on another thread erish
There are 126 women in prison for sex offences and 13800 men. I think the MOJ have said there are 125 trans prisoners and another expert said "about half" are there for sex offences. So even assuming 50% of those are trans women, including trans women sex offenders in female statistics will increase the numbers by 25%

Cllr Osbourne seems fine with conflating trans women and males when it suits his straw man

[Ereshkigal]

Clitoris Osborne was at it again yesterday. Arguing that 64 extra male sex offenders in women's prisons is a tiny number statistically and is therefore scaremongering. Not when it comes to the female estate it isn't.

twitter.com/cllrtrisosborne/status/937739232092872705

[hackmum]

Cactus: there is literally no-one to vote for. I'm not kidding. The Tories are pushing this gender recognition bill, and my own MP, a Tory, completely ignored my concerns when I wrote to him and just came back with a load of bullshit about trans rights.

Labour obviously are on board with it.

Lib Dems too.

Greens, Women's Equality Party, yup, them too...

I don't know about Plaid Cymru but I assume they wouldn't want to be lost in the virtue signalling rush. And we know where the SNP stands given their proposals for their own gender recognition bill.

Obviously no-one sane is going to vote Ukip, so we're stuffed. When even the party that claims to represent women is adopting a profoundly misogynistic policy, you can sense just how deep societal hatred of women runs.

[CactusJelly00]

I don't know who to vote for either.
I think the only people who aren't going to throw us into this are Ukip.
But I can't vote ukip because of their stance and broken promises re brexit and their anti immigration stance.
Tories seem a bit better but still a bit wet leaf with regards to the whole thing and as someone from a council estate in South Wales I can't bare to cast a vote for them...
labour fit most of my beliefs but this one thing is so fucking important I just can't do it.
Lib dems I don't trust but would consider but I haven't seen much about their stance on the whole thing?

[FattyCat]

Hey all.

Just to inform that I asked mumsnet to delete the screenshot in the OP as it belonged to someone elses twitter and their name was visible.

ta

[Lancelottie]

I can imagine it would be difficult to make that turnaround as a politician, but do they know what they're signing up for, do you think?

[DoopityDo]

I used to live in a Lib Dem constituency and my email about Maria Miller's private members bill (as was) got a reasonably sympathetic response.

That said it may be down to individual MPs. Vince Cable is fully on board with self-ID according to another poster who contacted him.

[KarlosKKrinkelbeim]

So labour voters turn away from labour and Tory voters (like me) don’t vote Tory because GRA, Brexit, Damian Green, god there are a million reasons now not to vote Tory.
Where do we go? I’d love it if the Lib Dem’s tried to expose this shit but on past form suspect they’re in it up to their armpits

[AskBasil]

What can we do?

Not vote labour. Tell them why.

Keep speaking out as and where we can so that we turn this juggernaut. We will do that. We cannot afford not to.

[RogueBiscuit]

www.dailystar.co.uk/news/politics/661073/mps-porn-damian-green-extreme-pornography-computer-parliament

A dating site for crossdressers and their admirers was also typed in almost 500 times, while escort site Adultwork was visited more than 100 times

I think this article explains why so many male mps are behind it.

[RogueBiscuit]

www.medway.gov.uk/thecouncilanddemocracy/councillorsanddecisions/councillorscodeofconduct.aspx

Surely his behaviour on Twitter goes against the code of conduct?

[Gileswithachainsaw]

Yeah I mean what's the point the names could he fake anyway.

It's all just deflection and people are falling for it.

And he still hasn't answered the big questions asked.

He got himself stuck then went back to posting bolkocks and ignoring everyone