BBC calling women 'menstruaters'

[ageingrunner]

twitter.com/bbcradio4/status/799030970288635905

[Manumission]

Oh, that's Stacey Dooley. It's a very Essex usage of 'gels' and probably immune from criticism as 'regional' under BBC guidelines

[Prawnofthepatriarchy]

The BBC has a news story about a documentary, Guns, Girls and IS about former Isis sex slaves who are fighting. The piece spells out the age of these "girls". They're in their early 20s, i.e. women.

Not content with calling us menstruators, the BBC is now infantilising woman soldiers. Time for some stern letters.

[CoteDAzur]

I'm saving a special right-hand uppercut for the 1st person who calls me "menstruator"..

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

YY. It's ready bizarre. In every category other than women, we deliberately don't make people their characteristics.

We don't tend to call people blacks, or wheelchairs, but somehow calling women who menstruate, "menstruators" is the correct thing to do.

[Tartyflette]

Fugly and utterly unecessary. 'Women who menstruate' is simple and factual.

[Datun]

If women are to be known as menstruaters we need to call it out every time 'men' is mentioned that need to be called ejaculators. Otherwise it's discriminatory towards women. Let's see if men like to be named only by their biological functions.

[Datun]

There is a debate on 1 December about the transgender report. 'Itsallgoingtobefine' has posted at the end of this thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2783139-Trans-media-watch-are-lobbying-mnhq?msgid=65053544#65053544

[Backingvocals]

They can fuck off with that

I just would love to hear the BBC deciding that some white man who has decided he feels like a black man is going to rename all the vocabulary around race based on his feelings. I would just love to see that. Oh but wait - that would never happen.

[kua]

noun. 1. the periodic discharge of blood and mucosal tissue from the uterus, occurring approximately monthly from puberty to menopause in nonpregnant women and females of other primate species. 2. the period of menstruating.

Women & Females seems simple enough statement.

[HermioneWeasley]

I can't imagine the mental knots you would have to tie yourself in to convince yourself that you're a man, but to carry on having periods, and insist that all language be changed so that your manliness isn't compromised.

[Xenophile]

Transmen are biologically women, so of course they aren't ejaculators. And young girls don't menstruate. So not really seeing your point

[Amalfimamma]

Would it be transphobic to say that female animals menstruate (most do have
covert menstruation albeit)? Do we need to call the female species of animals menstruaters Too?

[DanaBarrett]

Technically women who are on the pill don't menstruate either, it's a withdrawal bleed, not an actual period...

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

As long as we can refer to men as ejaculators?

But that excludes transmen, young boys etc. Would be more correct to call fathers' ejaculators.

[FreshwaterSelkie]

vestal

[VestalVirgin]

There is literally no other way to be a feminist.

True. Though the honorific "Totally excellent radical feminist" (terf) is often used to honour those valiant few who stand by the truth while the rest of the world goes crazy.

We could therefore say that there are feminists who are not self-proclaimed.

[Xenophile]

Oh, please say it does, I need a laugh.

[YonicProbe]

Me neither, Selkie.

Pizan, are you saying the BBC promotes radfem propaganda? Or that it doesn't?

[FreshwaterSelkie]

Can't make head or tail of your post, Pizan.

[Xenophile]

As long as we can refer to men as ejaculators?

No?

[Seachangeshell]

It's very annoying all this. The equivalent I suppose would be the promotion of Viagra. I just can't imagine them having a program about 'people with erectile dysfunction '. It would be 'men with erectile dysfunction ' wouldn't it? It just wouldn't be an issue.

[Pizanfan]

Fresh

What exactly are you talking about? Are we all not self proclaimed feminists?

When I use that term I use it to specific people who make statements, whereas I am 100% sure there are non self proclaimed feminists on this board, so to use women, or feminist, would do a disservice to those women.

[FreshwaterSelkie]

Time for me to wheel myself out again as exhibit A, a non-menstruator who, despite finding myself in that position at an absurdly early age due to horrendous medical issues that blighted my life, nonetheless manages to understand that the word "women" is what's needed here. Because - hey! - it's not about me! Stigma about periods affects women. Just women. Not all women. But only women (by which I mean XX chromosome & uterus).

I get particularly antsy about this because of the problems I have had over my lifetime with my periods being an absolute blight due to endometriosis- they derailed my career, not just because of the agony and the repeated surgeries, but the perception this caused of me in my workplace - a hysteric, someone who made a huge fuss about a simple biological process, an unreliable worker (I am none of those things). And that's in a nice civilized first world environment. There are many countries where menarche means losing some or all of your access to education and public life. This shit matters.

Pizan, will you bore off now with this "self proclaimed feminist" nonsense, now, please? There is literally no other way to be a feminist.

[Pizanfan]

I find it interesting that self proclaimed feminists are having a pop at the BBC, which is one of the most divisive TV stations around, constantly promoting radical feminist propoganda, giving a voice to ignorant feminists, and constantly promoting a very left agenda.

I wish for once they would have a civil discussion with smart, strong women, instead of pushing shows like Frankie Boyles American Autopsy in which Boyle actively, and purposely looked bored, while 4 insane man haters told him he was a rapist. This damages our cause so much!