Have we discussed the James Rhodes case?

[Preminstreltension]

here

It's probably not in the right place in Feminism chat as I can't immediately see a feminist angle but you are all clever so the right people to discuss this with. I absolutely cannot get my head around this case or why it was allowed to go so far through the courts. What was his wife thinking? What could possibly have been the basis for this case as it strikes me as outrageous that she should even have tried. Am I missing something?

[NeverEverAnythingEver]

I've posted here now so I could be one of the clever ones.

[Preminstreltension]

Sorry, should be "passed me by".

There are many clever people on MN and I am not one of them

[NeverEverAnythingEver]

I've not read the book, only some excerpts, and they make very painful reading. But then it was and probably still is a painful experience. He should be able to tell it.

And OPs should be able to post anywhere they like.

[Preminstreltension]

I always read MaryZ and Worra's posts with interest but I hadn't made a study of where they post before I posted. That would be a bit odd tbh. I just posted for some reflections from whoever wanted to comment.

I seem to have accidentally kicked a hornets nest of nonsense about whether FC look down on other boards or other boards refuse to go on FC - all of which has entirely past me by, thank god.

I like almost all of MN - that's why I'm here. End of story.

[OneMoreCasualty]

Cheeky, I absolutely agree re shame.

I think it would be hard to read about your parent going through any kind of traumatic experience as a child - beatings, witnessing a murder, rape as happened here etc - and to know that others knew that too so you couldn't keep it to yourself/between you and your parents.

[CheekyMaleekey]

We mustn't forget that Rhodes has done nothing that his son could be ashamed of.

[CheekyMaleekey]

Thanks OneMoreCasualty, but I'm fine. I think reading Instrumental helped in a weird way.

[OneMoreCasualty]

In this instance, the principle of free speech, with which I agree, will probably make it harder for his son; principles often do hurt people and that doesn't mean they shouldn't be followed, but I can see why the mother had a different priority.

[CheekyMaleekey]

...also the fact that he'd attempted suicide with post-traumatic stress disorder was already public knowledge.

[OneMoreCasualty]

Cheeky, I am sorry that happened to you

As I said upthread, I think the law is clear on this point but I do have sympathy with the mother who will bear the main brunt of supporting her son through this with school friends, neighbours etc also being aware and perhaps not giving the sympathetic and supportive reactions that would be desirable.

[OneMoreCasualty]

And yet the "you're all doing it wrong except me" style from you is the same. Almost as if that's your main concern.

If you think a thread should exist in a given topic, start it. If you think a thread would be better in another topic, start your own in that topic or suggest to the OP that the thread is moved.

Simple, with no need for nastiness about other posters. Why not give it a try?

[CheekyMaleekey]

He also says nothing negative about his ex-wife in the book.

[CheekyMaleekey]

James Rhodes' book has made we want to discuss the sexual abuse I suffered as a child with my DC. In order to help protect them. They need to know they'll be BELIEVED.

It's a very moving and important document, from which I would've thought his DS could only benefit in the long run, whether the information on his dad's traumatic childhood or about subsequent mental health problems - it would all be useful explanatory information.

He utterly gushes about his love for the child too.

[LassWiTheWeelStockitFarm]

I mentioned the case about the child rape because at the time the thread about it was getting very little traffic despite the obvious feminist interest in a girl child being refused an abortion.

These cases are not the same.

[OneMoreCasualty]

Lass

In a relatively recent post, you jumped onto FWR berating its regular posters (of which you are one, though you don't like to admit it) for not discussing a specific awful case of child rape, which resulted in pregnancy.

Now you are berating an OP for starting a thread about an awful case of child rape in FWR.

Inconsistency, thy name is Lass.

Obviously the most important point of both those posts is that you get the chance to get in your little digs on FWR. Far more meaningful than simply drawing attention to or discussing the awful cases.

Well done, full marks. Medal in the post.

[PlaysWellWithOthers]

Sorry... still flagellating, you'll have to excuse me.

And if you haven't seen the threads you've commented on you might want to go and see an optician.... fast.

[LassWiTheWeelStockitFarm]

Playswell
Look at this thread in FWR, those meanies in FWR are saying that they're clever, but we know they're not, right kids
Actually I have never done that. Nor can I recall ever seeing such a thread. I have however seen threads / comments on FWR with eye-rolling comments about how subjects are being discussed on AIBU or Chat.

[PlaysWellWithOthers]

My most deep, heartfelt and humble apologies for not mentioning the line you wrote about the case.

I shall immediately go and self flagellate.

And, it's only a TAAT if you do the "Look at this thread in FWR, those meanies in FWR are saying that they're clever, but we know they're not, right kids?"

Having a similar thread in a different part of the forum to get a mixture of views on the subject isn't the same thing at all.

But you know that, because you often comment on threads about the same subject on different parts of the forum...

[LassWiTheWeelStockitFarm]

That would be TAAT which as you very well know is frowned upon.

I see you are putting your own spin on what I said. I said I can't see the slightest reason for agreeing to the mother's request.

I'm failing however to see what is so special about the opinion of the posters who post here as opposed to say long standing and sensible posters like Maryz or Worra who don't post here.

As for Chat being for less serious subjects there are plenty of serious topics.

[PlaysWellWithOthers]

I see you're spreading your nastiness a bit thinner now. Tell you what Lass, if you're that bothered, go and post it on chat, or aibu or wherever you like.

It's a really horrible case, truly awful, that poor man, and all you have to say on the matter is.... there's clever people everywhere? Well played!

[Preminstreltension]

There are indeed lots of clever people on MN. That's why I like to be here - but I don't go on Chat much as it seems either for more frivolous topics (which I enjoy but which this is not) or for very sensitive topics that the poster would like to disappear. And FC is a good place for people to discuss news items with a personal or family policy element to it in a sensible and low key way. I didn't think it was a feminist issue but I like the tenor of discussion on this board rather than, for example, AIBU. That's why I put it here .

I genuinely didn't understand this case so thought I would ask some people whose opinion I value and who might be able to shed a new light on it for me. I might go further and ask the people on this board what they think about the likelihood of extraterrestrial life, just for the hell of it