Is this article for real?

[Itscurtainsforyou]

A fb friend has just posted this article, saying there's a lot of truth in it:
conservativewoman.co.uk/laura-perrins-call-sexodus-men-retreat-women/
I've read it and it's made me hopping mad. Please tell me it's not just me?

[BreakingDad77]

I didn't say it was a muslim problem?

Women have been traded in all forms across all nations,across all time with various 'justifications' given.

Its a cultural issue which I think growing Islam will help entrench and gives men more 'evidence' than Christianity to preserve these customs. It can hinder western development agencies saying they aren't respecting them etc.

I agree Christians aren't saints either - still holding on to only men being able to communicate and interpret the bible.

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

I think, from a truly hideous night's reading that seeing this as a Muslim problem is simplistic. 40% of the world's child marriages happen in India. I also see land ownership as a different, if related topic.

I'm going to stop derailing this thread though, and start another.

However, just by the bye... Christianity doesn't have a brilliant track record for giving women any status at all.

[BreakingDad77]

Unfortunately this is something that afflicts a lot of Africa, development, education, empowering women through giving them opportunities to make their own money, its a slow process.

I have heard horror stories when working in the region where a male member has died, and then other male family members have sort to kick the wife and kids off the land and grab it. Which leads to another problem that needs to be sorted i.e land ownership.

In terms of religion though take up of Islam is growing on this continent and I sometimes feel this is because it fits better to cultural norms than Christianity, and can be used by men to justify a lower/different status. It can then become a bulwark to empowering women.

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

Amhara region, which is predominantly Orthodox Christian.

What the study seems to show is that religion has very little to do with it. What are huge indicators are poverty and the education level of the girls.

[BreakingDad77]

Which region in Ethiopia as it has both Christian and Muslim areas and then the discussion just goes back to the 'is it cultural or is it religion'

[BobbyDarin]

Yeah, you see that a lot, sadly. It's all about pandering to your readers' prejudices.

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

Why the sudden change of topic? I thought the topic was an article about feminism-gone-too-far and men avoiding marriage?

Sorry about that, next time we'll be sure to let the manbaby dictate what we can talk about, ok?

Or not.

And yes Bobby, but she's tying in with a lot of MRA type beliefs, and I would suggest that those men and their poor, unhappy womenfolk would just lap it up. They don't seem to be into facts... more 'things that we can get riled at women about'

[BobbyDarin]

Milo Yiannopoulos's story shows us just how important it is that we back up arguments with facts. Because he hasn't done at all - it's a litany of assertions about a mass movement of men that just doesn't stack up, because there is no evidence that any significant numbers of men are involved in a 'Sexodus'. It's just an article hung on a portmanteau word.

[ApocalypseThen]

Why the sudden change of topic? I thought the topic was an article about feminism-gone-too-far and men avoiding marriage?

Because the topic of who is actually forced in to marital slavery and who is a bleating, self pitying windbag became more interesting.

[grimbletart]

Men are more able to go it alone? Really? Look around at the men and women who lose their partners through death. See the numbers of men who remarry or find another partner after about two years (there are five in my family circle alone). Then examine how many widows remarry…..None in my family circle. The reason they give? Not against marriage, miss their partners but are enjoying their new-found independence.

Men are more likely to repartner after losing their spouse; more than 60% of men but less than 20% of women are involved in a new romance or remarried within just over two years of being widowed.

Source Schneider, D., Sledge, P., Shuchter, S., & Zisook, S. (1996). Dating and Remarriage over the First Two Years of Widowhood. Annals of Clinical Psychiatry,

[xpedicure]

Why the sudden change of topic? I thought the topic was an article about feminism-gone-too-far and men avoiding marriage?

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

Honestly, I knew it was bad, but fuck this shit. 39% of girls in one region of Ethiopia are married before they're 15.

[NoUnauthorisedParking]

That was to xped, cross post.

Child marriage warrants more complaint than it gets.

[NoUnauthorisedParking]

Who is complaining?

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

Actually, the ICRW fact sheet about child brides is one of the most depressing things I've ever read.

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

Apocalypse... from ICRW

One third of girls in the developing world are married before the age of 18 and 1 in 9 are married before the age of 15.

So, yeah, forced marriages of female children.

[xpedicure]

So why are you all complaining about all the men who are choosing to avoid marriage? Why is it such a loss to you?

[ApocalypseThen]

marriage for men is a risk not worth taking these days

As others have said, don't marry if it doesn't suit you, it's no loss to anyone.

Bizarrely, while nobody will force you to get married, plenty of young girls will be forced. You'd think they'd be lining up.

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

According to the last set of data I saw, it still holds true. Buffy would be the go to woman for knowing things though.

[NoUnauthorisedParking]

"men can go it alone more easily than women"

On a related note, one sometimes hears that men's life expectancy is increased by marriage and women's decreased - is that true, does anyone know?

[ChunkyPickle]

xpedicure - the bloke has exactly the same freedoms and gets equal treatment in court......

In my case for example, DP is silly for not marrying me yet (both bone-idle rather than anti-marriage) - I brought property to our relationship, I on our joint mortgage - if we split I get my share of our house, and get to keep my existing property. If we were married we would both share both.

[NoUnauthorisedParking]

decades of feminism, they are designed to screw men left, right, centre

because wanting women to be seen and treated as fully human is all about screwing men. Riiiight.

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

The comments hit the nail on the head- marriage for men is a risk not worth taking these days. Any day the woman gets bored or wants a new guy she can divorce the men take half his money and kick him out the house.

The divorce laws have been sculpted by decades of feminism, they are designed to screw men left, right, centre.

What utter pish. Divorce laws have been written and passed by predominantly male governments. Don't like that? Vote for women.

And what NoUnauthorisedParking said.

[NoUnauthorisedParking]

As Lightening said unthread. To all those poor men for whom marriage is now "a risk not worth taking" ... good riddance!

[ChunkyPickle]

www.quora.com/What-is-the-male-female-ratio-on-big-five-dating-websites-Match-com-eHarmony-PlentyofFish-Zoosk-and-OKCupid

lots of references there (quora) - seems it's not as simple a question as it seems, but no-one's there suggesting it's very skewed either way