Object to Suit Supply which offers pornography along with its suits

[franch]

See Suit Supply - these images are displayed as posters in Suit Supply stores in the UK (including Westfield and Regent Street).

For more info and to object, visit this site.

[earwicga]

Lenin - I think the men looking at the camera with the women not is fucking disgusting.

Ugh - everything about this campaign is fucking disgusting.

[Malificence]

I think that one is a bit rapey tbh -
it could have been changed from "not really sure if the woman is pushing him away" to her actively participating, by pulling his tie or belt towards her.
I don't find any of the other images offensive or attractive, they do little for me, but that could be because the man is so repulsive.

[Bue]

This is fucking vile!

[AliceWorld]

Disgusting

You know I never get the argument 'well they've succeeded cos you're talking about them'. Just talking about them is not the point of advertising. Buying stuff is. They are now logged in my mind as 'never go there'. I don't also store in my mind 'revaluate in a few months'. People talking about a company in a bad way does not boost sales. I don't recall Gerald Ratner being pleased, and revelling in the success of his bad publicity.

[ISNT]

I was just thinking what dittant was thinking re police. But then they're no worse than images on magazines are they, and they're legal.

DH is horrified. That one where he's looking up her skirt is horrible. The whole thing is appallingly depressing.

[msrisotto]

I find it so depressing. I really do. The woman is basically a blow up doll to the brand, to the men.

[AliceWorld]

I seem to recall a similar thing where people complained to the ASA, and they said the same thing, and were advised to go to the police.

[sethstarkaddersmum]

the idea that you would just be walking down the street minding your own business and then be confronted with that.... or your dcs would see it....

how the hell am I supposed to bring my 2 dses up with a normal attitude to women when I don't have any choice about them being exposed to this stuff as young children? It's going to lodge in their brains and there's nothing we can do about it.

so depressed.

[wukter]

Have just looked. Nothing to add really. You've said it all.

[scallopsrgreat]

Not sure what I was expecting when I clicked on the link but it wasn't that! Yuk yuk yuk!

[ISNT]

One of the things which is so worry about all of this is something which ties in with a report yesterday about consent, and how many young people have very different views of what constitutes consent, or a lack of it.

In none of these pictures do the women look like they are happy or enjoying themselves, they all look utterly detached as if what is being done to them is something separate to them. What does this teach young men who see these images about what women who are actively consenting and enjoying sex are supposed to look like? As these images are legal the viewer has to believe that all of the situations are consensual. yet the images are extremely ambiguous, more than one of them could actually be portraying a sexual assault. When people are fed images like this over and over - that even if women look miserable / disconnected, then it's fine and in fact even desirable to have sex with them, what does that do to people? How does it tie in with the fact that so many young men (according to the survey yesterday) don't think no means no and all sorts of disturbing things like that?

I don't understand why there isn't anything we can do about all of this?

[ISNT]

I thought you weren't allowed to show pics of nipples in public (which is why the magazines all have that ridiculous star over them). But then art galleries are fine - is it really legal to display images that I would class as pornographic and disturbing in shopping centres?

[anastaisia]

Has anyone thought about writing to the shopping centre (whoever leases the shop to them) and telling them that the images used have put you off shopping there because.... (of previous rape/you have kids/you think they're awaful). Obviously best for people who live near shopping centres with these shops.

Sorry if it was already thought of. Can't imagine the owners of the space would be very happy that all the shops there would loose business because of one shop's ad campaign.

[JennyHaniver]

I find the looking up the skirt casually one the most disturbing - not sure why. I think it's because of the insinuation that any bloke can wander past a woman on the stairs, check her knickers out and she writhes in pleasure at the gesture. They're all pretty bad though.

[JennyHaniver]

anastasia - C&P from the woman news website:

"Complain directly to Westfield ? as a company they are decidedly conservative and tend towards draconian leases. They take customer complaints very seriously and are very likely to bring pressure to bear if they think a shop display is offensive. The site for the specific mall will have a customer relations and marketing manager that you can email ? in my experience (as a retail manager in a Westfield owned mall) they?re very responsive and hyper-averse to bad publicity."

[AnyFucker]

Very, very unsettling and disturbing

Not something you would like to see in a family shopping centre

The detachment of both the female and male models is a very damaging message to put out there, I think

Like sexually assaulting someone is something that "just happens" while you are looking elsewhere/have your mind on something else

Awful

[sethstarkaddersmum]

I've complained to Westfield. I think this is one of these issues where the size of their postbag is going to make a difference.

ISNT I think your 9.09 post is spot on. Rape will only increase if there is lots of stuff like this around.

Lenin - I wonder if people could sue, if they were exposed to this stuff as a rape victim, or if their children saw it, through the irresponsible behaviour of a retailer or negligence of shopping centre management.

It is in the Daily Mail today.
This is the bit that made me seethe:
'A reply forwarded to her from Suit Supply stated: 'Our campaign is called "Shameless" and is shot by the renowned photographer Carli Hermès. In our opinion the photographs of the campaign are a well-balanced mix of style, humour and sex, the essence of fashion!
'We fully disagree that our campaign would be obscene and denigrating towards women. On the contrary, the women depicted in the photographs are obviously in the lead.''

how can Suit Supply LIE like that? What makes the women in the lead?

Do you think Suit Supply would explain that to me if I asked them?

[ISNT]

How on earth can anyone look at those pictures and think that the women are obviously "in the lead". That is not possible. You're right, it's a lie.

[sethstarkaddersmum]

anyone who thinks those women are in the lead needs treatment and probably imprisonment. Maybe the naked women are leading the helpless suited men on?

[scallopsrgreat]

They just reduce women to sex objects - AGAIN - so how on earth they depict women "in the lead" is beyond me. In fact I thought the opposite - that the half naked, sexually posed women were there to service (for want of a better word) the fully clothed, arrogant, detached men.