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The Tenth Republic - what is the new normal?

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 18/06/2020 20:26

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to beat us with then please do so elsewhere and not in the staffroom.

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Piggywaspushed · 19/06/2020 08:18

Noticeable how many parents no posting on various threads say they don't want their children exhausted by extra work!

motherrunner · 19/06/2020 08:21

You almost get the impression they want schools open for childcare ...?

ineedaholidaynow · 19/06/2020 08:21

You can’t win!

Piggywaspushed · 19/06/2020 08:22

Not necessarily :it's a different set of posters!

I tend to agree with these ones.

CarrieBlue · 19/06/2020 08:24

£50 per hour usually? Is that really what tutors get paid? I wouldn’t be paying a tutor £50 per hour if they had no teaching qualifications and if it’s going to cost schools £12 per hour why can’t the school pay for TAs to support in class which would be far better at ‘closing the gap’ than forcing kids to spend more hours in lessons.

monkeysox · 19/06/2020 08:31

Schools up north have already started advertising for 121 tutors. £29 per hour if qts.

monkeysox · 19/06/2020 08:32

How are you managing if have own dc. Week here week there. Different data each week.
Can't use family for own childcare. No wraparound available.
Nightmare

DreamingofBrie · 19/06/2020 08:33

MrsHerculePoirot

Did the adding a page to class notebook using Teams thing work for you?

Thank goodness it's Friday!

monkeysox · 19/06/2020 08:34

Carrie that would be sensible but rich mates who own teaching agencies couldn't cream off a bit that way.
Some secondaries have zero in class support.

motherrunner · 19/06/2020 08:35

@monkeysox My children are 9 and 5. I teach live to timetable all day and they sit in front of devices. I have no family. My son has ASD too. It’s horrible.

motherrunner · 19/06/2020 08:37

Just seen this on a thread in Covid topic about schools opening Sept:

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Because it sounds like another situation where middle class, mainstream educated kids lose out. Privately educated won’t need it, disadvantage groups targeted.’

Strange, I thought mumsnet mums were all about helping the vulnerable? 🤔

monkeysox · 19/06/2020 08:38

@motherrunner WineBrewFlowers
It's shit.
Can your dc have any time in school?
My work school helpfully suggested putting mine in school as keyworker kids.
Yes but my commute is 40 mins each way.
No wraparound available. Confused

EducatingArti · 19/06/2020 08:42

£50 is what they will pay the agency. Unqualified uni students will get half or less! So agencies make mega profits from this!
I work as a tutor, QTS and nearly 15 years experience of proven success and with a lot of experience working with ADHD, ASD, dyslexic and students with other learning difficulties such as information processing problems.
The maximum I feel I can charge is £42 ( unless students are outside my normal travel distance) including travel.
I am self employed so this has to cover sickness and holiday pay, all pension contributions etc. I don't work through an agency as I have a waiting list and no need to get an agency to find me work.
I am ' up north' though. Maybe I could charge £50 in London.

Lostmyshityear9 · 19/06/2020 08:42

Specially trained graduates will be delivering the tutoring to the most disadvantaged kids, in all subjects

Specially trained graduates? Or they could just use actual trained teachers? Like ask us if we want to work and/or maybe consider what has happened to supply teachers and maybe some of them would be up for earning some money?

Of course, this is really some kind of back door entrance to teaching without needing a qualification, isn't it? Deal with the shortage and the numbers of people who can't be in school due to health issues?

motherrunner · 19/06/2020 08:43

I could get a keyworker place but same here, no wraparound, which means I can’t get them to school or pick them up.

I’m dreading next week when we have a parents evening from 4.30-7.30 live. The time my son is most likely to have a sensory meltdown is early evening. I’m dreading it happening in front of parents. It’s happened a few times during the day but I switch the meeting off quickly and make an excuse to kids that my internet went down. I’m not sure parents will be as easy to lie to!

Anyway, off to log on to double Yr 10!

monkeysox · 19/06/2020 08:45

Say you can't do the parents evening.

monkeysox · 19/06/2020 08:46

@EducatingArti use zoom and charge 60 quid.

Piggywaspushed · 19/06/2020 08:54

TAs to support in class which would be far better at ‘closing the gap’ than forcing kids to spend more hours in lessons.

The EEF research doesn't prove this to be true unfortunately. 1:1 intensive tuition is by far the best catch up method, according to research. However, note, they always says it needs to be high quality and programmes using unqualified eg sixth formers are found to be ineffective.

Danglingmod · 19/06/2020 08:54

Yep, took about ten minutes for a thread moaning about mc children missing out.

Piggywaspushed · 19/06/2020 09:02

Specially trained graduates will be delivering the tutoring to the most disadvantaged kids, in all subjects

lost where official have you got that from?

EducatingArti · 19/06/2020 09:15

@monkeysox
I am already using zoom right now! Is that the mystery added ingredient that means I can charge £££?
Software glitches aid learning!!

monkeysox · 19/06/2020 09:21

@EducatingArti I mean so you can snag the rich southerners 😂

EducatingArti · 19/06/2020 09:27

@monkeysox
Ahh, of course!

DrMadelineMaxwell · 19/06/2020 09:35

Any 'bingo' key word suggestions for me to look out for in my Blended Learning webinar later? Apparently we are going to look at 'Lessons from China'. A model for blended learning going forward for next term.

monkeysox · 19/06/2020 09:45

Well considering any Chinese kids with SEN don't go to school 🤔