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Jehova Witnesses / birthdays?

37 replies

Glitterkitten24 · 14/08/2019 12:59

Sorry for asking work questions during holidays - Scottish schools are back this week so end of hols for me I’m afraid!

NQT looking for some advice.
I have a class with several JW children this year. I planned to make birthday cards and planned to celebrate birthdays in class (just with a card/ song) before realising that the JW children can’t join in.

Did you just ignore birthdays altogether?
Is there a work round I am missing?

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rosesinmygarden · 20/08/2019 11:12

Ridiculous even! That's the weirdest autocorrect ever!

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itbemay · 20/08/2019 11:20

I started working with a JW a few years ago, very small team of 4, I didn't know she was JW and at xmas I bought them all a bottle of wine and wrote a card, the JW accepted the gift and card then sent me a text to say that she didn't celebrate xmas or birthdays and therefore wouldn't be returning to gesture. So I am guessing that the parents wouldn't like a card from the class, even though it sounds like a lovely school.

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hormonesorDHbeingadick · 20/08/2019 11:31

NCTDN many JW don’t involve themselves in politics or vote and often avoid high pressure jobs with long hours so they have more time for religious studies and witnessing.

I taught secondary RE and some parents did not want their child in a lesson which contained any reference to religion, this caused problems when teaching the reformation in history while others think it is important to learn about other religions to help with witnessing. You will need to speak to the parents.

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nonicknameseemsavailable · 22/08/2019 01:22

I would skip birthdays completely to be honest. As has been said the children in the holidays are nearly always forgotten about, especially anyone at the start of September before term starts or if someone isn't on the birthday list on the wall they might never actually tell the teacher but they will be really hurt about being forgotten by accident etc etc etc. make your life less stressful and unless a child puts their hand up and says it is their birthday that day in which case say "how lovely, happy birthday, are you doing anything nice?" I would ignore it.

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TokenGinger · 22/08/2019 01:32

Do you need to do birthday things at all? It's a bit shit for those with August birthdays, or any dates that are normally in a school holiday

I completely agree. As an August baby, I always missed out on the birthday activities. I longed so much to be able to bring in a bag of lollies for my classmates and have happy birthday sung to me.

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PutYourBackIntoit · 22/08/2019 01:44

Please don't do this!
I grew up excluded from birthday and Christmas celebrations, but at least birthdays were just out of school celebrations that I didn't always know I was missing out on. Imagine having 30 birthday days in a year to feel excluded from each year! Even though you're bring thoughtful with friendship cards....kids see through it and still feel different.

Instead, if you want to do something special for the children, my kids teachers write them a postcard in the summer. They love recieving them!

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Corneliawildthing · 22/08/2019 21:42

I worked in a small school with a lot of JW pupils. It was the custom to sing Happy Birthday to pupils so the JW kids put their hands over their ears.
We ended up doing a winter end of term type concert to accommodate them instead of a nativity and the vicar gave a little talk at the end whereupon all the JW parents walked out.

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Kuponut · 23/08/2019 16:51

Really the best thing to do is take a lead from the previous class teacher and be open to talking with the families. I was you once and got myself tied up in worries about doing the right thing - and actually it wasn't the issue I'd worked myself up to.

The child I taught was a bit older (Y4 age) and the kids had grown up with him so were very used to working around the issues he had with birthday celebrations etc - to the point where, whenever he helpfully offered to explain to someone new why he didn't celebrate them, the class would groan about "oh no not again" as they'd heard it so many times (not maliciously - just in the spirit of good natured ribbing among friends). He was also incredibly good at finding loopholes to ensure that he got sweets and things when they came into school - so I brought something deliberately non-seasonal like Freddos in for the end of term coming up to Easter and he decided to announce he'd have one to celebrate "the end of another term done" and make sure he didn't miss out on chocolate!

Think (it's a fair few years ago now so memory's hazy) the arrangement the JW families had with the school was that the school would confine all the Christmas stuff to the very final week of term and they'd stay off school that week - so the rest of the school still got all the festive stuff, but the JW children weren't placed in that situation.

The family were very obliging and as long as they knew that I was trying to abide by their wishes and do the right thing - they were very willing to engage, explain and advise.

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Chocolateandcarbs · 24/08/2019 16:45

Instead of cards in a class with a variety of religions we’d make a name poem that we created as a class for each pupil at some point over the term e.g. Lily might be Loves being a good friend
Is amazing at PE
Lights up the room
You’re always positive
(It whatever the class came up with)

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catsinahuffagain · 24/08/2019 17:27

Another one who thinks just don't do it...I was a JW growing up, and even the friendship cards make you feel so excluded and different. Each time I was left out of something it made me a little bit sadder, even though I tried to tell myself otherwise. As an adult I reflect and wish I could give my younger self a hug.

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NCTDN · 25/08/2019 21:53

@catsinahuffagain do you mind me asking how this has affected your views on religion?

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Pumpkinsarepurple · 28/08/2019 22:42

Autumn term in a minefield to navigate if you have Witnesses in your class, Harvest Festival, Bonfire Night, Remembrance and then Christmas are all events that you will have to plan alternative activities for the children.

In my experience birthdays are the least difficult to navigate.

Also check your topics, aliens and witches and anything magical are all problematic.

Definitely speak with the parents to find out how they would like different things approached, I'm sure they would appreciate it.

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