When is it ok for a teacher to tell a child to bugger off?

[BlueElephant90]

When is it ok for a teacher to tell a child to bugger off?

[BlueElephant90]

Thank you very much for all your posts and I am glad that most of you don't view it as normal behaviour.
To all the teachers out there: PLEASE REPORT IT IF YOU SEE IT

[Felicitywascold]

I know!

It's astonishing really how those lazy private school fuckers get away with it, all their kids fail exams and don't get into university .....oh no, wait.

I think the poster is confusing out of date with not following every new faddy govt. iniative.

End result of this independence is education being organised, planned and delivered by education professionals and not MPs. Extraordinary really!

[mirry2]

agree wouldnt be surprised in private school - teaching there a lot more lax outof date

The ignorance prejudice of some people never ceases to amaze me

[BlueElephant90]

In the state sector, I think only few make it the Rugby team, football team and so on. He is not in any team. He was struggling to keep up with the rest in a PE session. It is a selective school where they are more likely to be mathematicians than Rugby players.

[HellothisisJoanie]

agree wouldnt be surprised in private school - teaching there a lot more lax outof date

[HellothisisJoanie]

i think its unacceptable.
BUT the kid need to man up. In a rugby team? sheesh

[sashh]

At a secondary school, to a 12 year old boy when the teacher was annoyed with him. The child cried for a long time afterwards.

Seriously?

Bloody hell, I hope the kid wasn't in Yorkshire.

[talkingnonsense]

Not loaded, just have lots of experience of state schools where it would be unheard if to say something like that, and none of private secondaries, so wondered if it might be a different type of school with a more casual feel, or a much harsher one, depending on tone.

[Felicitywascold]

No absolutely not. I mean it is extraordinarily odd to assume that this would happen in the independent and not state sector.

It should not, and does not routinely happen in either.

[mirry2]

Felicity do you mean you wouldn't be surprised if it happened in a private school? If so, why?

[Felicitywascold]

Private or state? Gobsmacked if it happened in a state school in front of others. Very very unusual. Sure teacher wasn't massively provokes and just lost it?( though still totally unacceptable).

From my experience of both sectors I would not expect it to occur in this context in either. What a strange question, seems unnecessarily loaded to me.

[BlueElephant90]

Thank you Panda, that is exactly what I think but obviously the teachers haven?t being doing so. I have just spoken to my friend and she said that it is very frequent at the school.

[PandaNot]

In that context it sounds like the child is upset by being told he's not good enough for that PE set, not that he's upset by the language used. Not appropriate language though from a teacher and if I was observing that lesson I would report it to senior management.

[BlueElephant90]

Thanks Mike, I am glad the world is not full of people like you. or is it?

[BlueElephant90]

yes Greensleeves.
I am not sure re the rules on Mumsnet how much I could say

[MikeOxard]

I wouldn't be a teacher for all the money in the world, but if I was, all the kids would be told to bugger off. You have heard this through the child of a friend of a friend or some such chinese whispers scenario, things may not be as they seem to you. But if they were, I really think a 12 year old should not be so upset by 'bugger off' that they cry. Surely that hrase is not that upsettingly offensive? Most 12 year olds are using swearier language than that themselves, let alone hearing it. (Not saying it was a great teaching decision or anything, just that the whole scenario wouldn't concern me).

[BlueElephant90]

He was comfortable in acting this way in front of his colleagues so I guess it?s a common practice at the school.

[Greensleeves]

Of course she can complain if her child witnessed the incident.

She should tell the boy's parents as well.

Is it a grammar school?

[BlueElephant90]

Definitely state

[TheNebulousBoojum]

cross-post
Then there will be a discipline policy to refer to, and there will be a complaints procedure to use.

[TheNebulousBoojum]

My guess would be private.

[BlueElephant90]

state

[BlueElephant90]

Her ds is in the Rugby team , she is worried even to talk about because she is concerned the PE teachers would hold it against her ds and kick him out of the team.
The school is not very sporty as they do select according to academic potential only. It is puzzling why they expect them to be sportsmen

[talkingnonsense]

Private or state? Gobsmacked if it happened in a state school in front of others. Very very unusual. Sure teacher wasn't massively provokes and just lost it?( though still totally unacceptable).

[BlueElephant90]

I don't think she could make a complaint as it wasn't her ds.