Bob Martin :(

[RubbishMantra]

Within the last couple of days we've had posts about Bob Martin products (mainly spot-on flea treatments) damaging cats.

At best, they don't work, and at worst they can poison your cat.

I realise not every cat owner uses this board, so perhaps others reading this could use social media/word of mouth to relay this info?

Thank you.

[thecatneuterer]

legotits No it's not dangerous, but it doesn't really work. You need Drontal or Milbemax

[legotits]

Thank you for this thread.

I had no idea.

I've wormed my old lady (15) and new baby (14wks) with Bob Martin spot on wormer.
Is the wormer as dangerous?

[MrsSchadenfreude]

Quick hijack/question. Big Pussy has just had his flea treatment (Advocate or Advantage, can't remember which) and has wiped it all over the sofa. Will I have to do it again?

[Fluffycloudland77]

According to Lone there's more fipronil in Broadline than frontline.

[RubbishMantra]

It still works in some parts of the country, fruity, but fleas are becoming more and more resistant to fipronil.

[PosiePootlePerkins]

Ok thanks fruityb I think I will have a chat with the vets. Seems to be so much conflicting advice but really don't want new cat to get fleas - old cat left us with several which we have only just got rid of!

[fruityb]

I use broad line and it sorted out the fleas my cat did have and we haven't had any since. No complaints from me.

[PosiePootlePerkins]

Thank you Rubbish I may have to rethink that then.

[RubbishMantra]

I believe the active flea killer in Broadline is fipronil, the same one used in Frontline, posie.

[wigglybeezer]

When I complained about frontline not working very well IMO, I got a lecture from a staff member at pets at home telling me I just had to be more thorough with the hoovering.

[PosiePootlePerkins]

Ok thanks :)

[acatcalledjohn]

I started a thread on tapeworm last night and Broadline was recommended there.

[acatcalledjohn]

I started a thread on tapeworm last night and Broadline was recommended there.

[PosiePootlePerkins]

Can I ask about Broadline? Am considering using this as it combines worming and fleas (I think!) but not sure how effective it is? I think the flea stuff is the same as frontline which people are saying doesn't work any more. Thanks.

[reallyanotherone]

Charming flea collars tend to be organophosphate.

Awful when a cat gets hold of one and chews it.

Another plus for vets is they tend to know thre regional flea resistance. Our vet also has it's products on rotation so resistance is less likely to build up in the area.

[CharminglyGawky]

Also don't use flea collars. Many of them have dangerous chemicals in, they can cause horrific allergic reactions and if a cat has a cut on their neck or rubs their neck raw from an allergic reaction it can kill them as stuff gets into the bloodstream.

I'm afraid I don't know the chemicals involved but used to work in a rescue and the no flea collars thing was actually in the adoption contract as the rescue had seen so much suffering from them.

[PickAChew]

Permethrin is the stuff in flyspray and aphid spray!

[acatcalledjohn]

Last time we used Frontline we ended up with a full on infestation of flees (honestly, the fleas and eggs were everywhere, I took a video of a sea of them on top a box where girl cat liked to sit, it was horrible), so as far as we're concerned the fleas have built up a resistance for it as mentioned upthread. We had to follow up with a combination of Advantage spot on and Indorex house spray which worked a treat.

Never knew about Bob Martin though. Never bought any of their products, and this has given me even more reason to stick to the more expensive but safe and effective treatments. They are our babies and worth every penny.

[MsKite]

Ah right! Thanks thecatneuterer. I use advocate now, which works brilliantly (for now?)

[thecatneuterer]

Snipping the pollen bits out of lilies makes them less likely to kill your cat, but it won't remove the possibility. If you have cats don't have lilies.

MsKite Frontline is the same ingredient as the new Bob Martin. The old Bob Martin didn't work and killed some cats. The new Bob Martin, which is now the same as Frontline, merely doesn't work.

[RubbishMantra]

I think all bulb plants are toxic to cats. Here's a good guide.

And you're right another, it's not just the pollen, even a small nibble of the plant can be fatal.

[MsKite]

I've just read something online that said frontline has the same ingredient as Bob Martin

[TheoriginalLEM]

wiggly frontline is perfectly safe but fleas appeae to have developed a resistance to it so it is less effective.

[RubbishMantra]

Frontline's not poisonous, but in most areas fleas have developed immunity to it.

[laidbackneko]

Daffodils too. I absolutely love them but never keep them in the house as they are poisonous to cats.