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Poorly kitten with cat flu.

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ToffeeWhirl · 05/06/2013 19:27

Our six-month-old Balinese kitten has a recurrence of cat flu again Sad. He first had it a month ago. This time, he has a high temperature, an eye infection, the sneezes and is sleeping all the time. He is still eating and drinking, thank goodness, but he is very underweight.

If he gets another recurrence, the vet will check for other diseases.

I have come away from the vet with a bagful of medicines and a much depleted bank account.

The vet did reassure me that this wasn't life threatening. We are all besotted with this kitten, particularly my oldest son. The other day, DS1 fell asleep during the day and I found him and the kitten tucked up under the duvet, both heads on the pillow Smile.

Has anyone else had a cat with cat flu? If so, did it keep coming back? Any tips?

Also, any tips on telling the breeder would be welcome. I chickened out of telling her the first time round, but I really feel I should this time. However, I don't know what to say without sounding as if I'm asking for a refund or blaming her in some way. Also, I'm not sure what she can do about it if her cats are carriers. Does it mean that she shouldn't be selling kittens, or is this just a risk you take when you buy a cat from a breeder?

Incidentally, the only reason we bought a pedigree was because I am allergic to cats and this was one of the few breeds that don't trigger my allergies. Am not particularly bothered whether I have a moggie or a pedigree, just don't want to spend my days sneezing and wheezing.

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MumnGran · 12/06/2013 20:37

Brilliant news Toffee Smile so pleased for you, and for poor little Baby. He has had a rough patch.
Not sure if renewed appetite will all be down to the NutriPlus, but its amazing stuff isn't it..... seems to work like a charm, every time.

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ToffeeWhirl · 12/06/2013 21:54

He's just having another snack Smile.

Mum - we are having a battle over the NutriPlus. I wipe a blob on his paws and he shakes it off. I put it on again... etc. But, in the end, I win Grin.

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ToffeeWhirl · 12/06/2013 21:55

Oh dear, he hardly ate anything. But he showed willing, at least.

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cozietoesie · 12/06/2013 22:04

Yes indeed - he's showing willing. You can't expect him to eat all the time, after all.

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ZebraOwl · 14/06/2013 08:34

Is fantastic your DS1 liked the psychologist on first meeting: as you say, that's incredibly important. I have everything crossed for you that this works for him. (If Baby The Kitten Of Many Aliases is sneezing lots hopefully, with DS1 being loved so much by him that luck will focus on CBT working well...)

Willingness to eat is brilliant & I'd guess that it's the same for Baby as for us: even when you reach the stage in convalescence where you're interested in food you just can't manage to eat very much. I imagine dry food would feel a bit like hard work just now if eating is tiring. Softening it up with milk or water or mixing it in with wet food might help.

I'd guess the fur-loss is probably linked to the dietary deficiencies that are leading to the wall-licking - similar to the way people with anorexia lose their hair due to malnutrition. I hope that it is "just" that & will thus improve when he starts getting everything he needs in his diet.

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ToffeeWhirl · 14/06/2013 12:42

Well, came back from the vet very happy because he is pleased with ToffeeKitten's progress and decided we'd wait before doing any more tests Smile. So that's better for kitty's stress levels and for our bank balance. The vet advised me to get kitty weighed by the nurse regularly to check that he's gaining weight. I told him that kitty was licking all sorts of things now (washing machine and other walls), but he didn't seem very concerned about it.

An hour after I arrived home, DS1 screams to me that I have to see the cat. And there is ToffeeKitten looking all the world like a plucked chicken, with all the fur pulled out of his chest and a raw, red patch underneath. It looks really sore and .... shocking.

So, I phoned the vet for advice (wondering if it was some sort of stress reaction to visiting the vet) and they have asked me to take him back in at 5.

In the meantime, we are taking DS1 to visit his new school (fingers crossed he will cope, as he will be very nervous - maybe I could try Feliway on him too? Wink), then going into work (to pay for all the vet fees!).

I never knew that having a kitten would be such a rollercoster.

Thank you for all the kind and encouraging words, cozie, Mum and zebra.

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cozietoesie · 14/06/2013 12:51

Yikes. How did DS1 cope with finding him? (There's only so long that you can disguise the fact that KS isn't so hot, I guess.

Let us know how he gets on.

You're getting more of a roller coaster ride with this one than most people get in a lifetime of cats by the way.

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MumnGran · 14/06/2013 17:10

See what the vet says, but it sounds like a major pica episode, as a stress response to all the stuff that has been going on - bless his heart. I am guessing he has progressed very rapidly through licking one spot, to multi target, to doing it to himself.
Once they start, its really hard to stop, and would recommend contacting Vicky Halls (or similar decent feline behaviourist) for advice on managing.

If you can persuade your vet to treat it as something completely new then you may be able to have it covered by insurance!!

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ToffeeWhirl · 14/06/2013 17:54

Well, the vet checked for fleas (none), then said it could be stress or it could be itchy skin caused by an underlying liver disorder, which only blood tests will determine. He has given me Fucidin cream to put on it and we will adopt a wait-and-see approach. This is a new symptom, so I think any tests that the vet does after this would be covered by the insurance.

The vet didn't charge me for the second consultation today, which was kind.

My next challenge is to stop ToffeeKitten licking off the Fucidin cream.

Mum - oh goodness, I hope it's not that. Thanks for the contact, but we don't have any money left to spend on this kitten, unless it's an emergency, so I will hold off on that for now.

cozie - DS was a bit shocked when he found a plucked kitten, but seems to have recovered remarkably quickly. It still hasn't occured to him that we have a sickly kitten, so he's not worried about that, and he is not squeamish.

DH, on the other hand, nearly passed out when I showed him... Grin

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MumnGran · 14/06/2013 17:59

you could ask vet for a (free!) collar ...like a cone... that stops them biting at stitches after ops, and will also prevent licking off cream, and any attempt at more fur pulling. Wouldn't need to take him back, to get that.

A seriously quiet weekend sounds in order, so he can de-stress as much as possible. More than anything though, I am just so pleased for you that he is getting better and eating again Smile.

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ToffeeWhirl · 14/06/2013 18:04

Damn, I wish they'd offered me a free collar. I can't get back there today and I have to keep stopping him from licking at it.

I agree about the quiet weekend for him - and for all of us Smile!

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ZebraOwl · 14/06/2013 22:26

Do you have a babygro (even a doll's one) kicking about/gettable? You have to make certain alterations & be ready to help with Using The Tray but I know people who've used it as an alternative to The Cone Of Shame with cats who will not/cannot tolerate it...

But poor wee Toffeekitten, what a time he's having - and poor you having to deal with it, too! Am very glad that it's not upset your DS1 - how did the school visit go? I hope it went well - it's good he has psychological support in place now as the psychologist should be able to help manage the impact of transitioning to a new school.

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ToffeeWhirl · 14/06/2013 22:32

I love the idea of him in a BabyGro, Zebra Grin. After all, he is already my surrogate baby. So far, I have managed to distract him from licking that spot and he is now sleeping on DH's lap. Will see how it goes tomorrow.

And yes, he is having quite a time of it, poor kitten.

The school visit went well, thanks. Almost couldn't get DS1 there because he panicked, but somehow, between me and DH, we persuaded him to go. He has a longer visit on Monday, so am crossing my fingers that he will cope with that. He has to realise that the only way to overcome his anxieties is to face them head on. As you say, Zebra, the psychologist can help him to cope with that transition. I feel really hopeful.

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ZebraOwl · 15/06/2013 17:20

Apparently it does make cats look almost unbearably cute... Suspect your DS2 would be distinctly unimpressed, mind you. I suppose another option would be to pop him in a sling so you can trot him about the place in a perma-snuggle & he can't get to the sore spot? Wink I hope the fucidin helps & that ToffeeKitten can be dissuaded from licking that spot.

Glad the school visit went well & hope that Monday's does too: will keep my hooves crossed Smile

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cozietoesie · 17/06/2013 09:12

How is he doing today, Toffee?

It seems that Seniorboy has come out in sympathy with KS by developing a URI. (I think he's had latent cat flu for years and with his age, and a less effective immune system, it's seized the opportunity.) Just waiting for a phone back from the vet as to whether I have to go in.

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cozietoesie · 17/06/2013 10:14

In tomorrow. Not sure there's much they can do but in view of his age etc the vet wants to see him.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 17/06/2013 10:17

Poor senior boy, is he eating?

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cozietoesie · 17/06/2013 10:23

Eating, drinking and using his tray fine. (Well a big sick this morning but that was because he got out of bed and immediately pigged his first breakfast.) His eyes are OK and he doesn't look to have any mouth problems - just two big snottery sneezes.

I think he may always have had a latent flu - he's been given to occasional sneezing and a wet nose since I got him. (You'll have to watch for that on KS, Toffee.) Just that he's old and cat flu is dangerous to the young and the old - like so many things.

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MumnGran · 17/06/2013 10:25

awwww .... hope he picks up soon!

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ZebraOwl · 17/06/2013 16:45

Sorry to hear Seniorboy's poorly too cozie: hope that he's not too bad with it.

How's Kitten Strachey today Toffee? And how did DS1's school visit go?

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ToffeeWhirl · 17/06/2013 17:30

Oh, so sorry to hear about Seniorboy, cozie. If he is still eating, drinking and using his litter tray, those must be really good signs. Let us know how you get on at the vet tomorrow.

Kitten Strachey is doing well, I think. He is eating more each day - still small amounts, but more frequently. I think he is getting used to us bringing him food regularly, even when he is lying in his basket (pampered cat Smile). He still won't touch biscuits at the moment, but I think that is because we are willing to keep giving him wet food in our desperation to make him eat. He is eating mostly Felix at present, augmented with his favourite Applaws.

His eye infection has gone and we can see his big blue eyes again. He hasn't scratched at his fur again, so his wounds are healing.

He is still licking walls Confused. We know when he's doing it because we can hear his tongue rasping on the wall. He knows he isn't meant to do it because he always stops and looks a bit guilty when we approach him.

Am still putting the NutriPlus on his paws and at least some of it gets licked off. The rest of it ends up in sticky blobs on the floor for us to tread on in the morning. Oh, and I am adding Lysine to his water to combat the flu virus. Would that help Seniorboy, cozie? I bought mine from a healthfood shop (cheaper than online) and I just cut up the capsules and sprinkle it into the drinking water.

DS1 is sleeping downstairs with him at night at the moment. He is a bit put out that kitty always goes back to his heated basket after his cuddles (he does love that electric pad).

Last night, we had a major breakthrough with DS2, who has held out all this time and never even stroked kitty. However, I was reading to DS2 in his bed last night and kitty was curled up against me. He was so still that DS2 tentatively reached out his hand and stroked him. Once he'd started, he couldn't stop. "He's so soft!" I managed to stay calm and not make a big deal about it, but really I wanted to whoop.

I am going to take kitty in for weighing every couple of weeks and only take him back to the vet if he isn't gaining weight or if anymore symptoms show.

Thanks for asking after DS1's school visit, zebra. Unfortunately, it was cancelled until this Friday. However, he had another CBT session and it went really well. He definitely feels more hopeful that he will be able to overcome his OCD now.

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cozietoesie · 17/06/2013 17:53

Good news about both DSs, Toffee - and good news also about KS's improving health. (Bar the wall-licking, little devil. I would actually chastise him verbally when you hear the sound rather than approaching him and waiting for him to stop. Best if you do it rather than the DSs - adults have a more measured tone than youngsters.)

I was actually considering the Lysine and shall consult with the vet tomorrow in the interests of transparency. At the moment, he's just keeping close to his electric blanket so warmth and rest appear to be doing the trick - no more snottery sneezes since this morning at least.

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ToffeeWhirl · 17/06/2013 20:06

ToffeeKitten just fell down the stairs Sad. Poor boy. He's unhurt, just a bit surprised. We all cuddled him. But DS1 said he had noticed him being wobbly on his legs today, as had I. His back legs aren't behaving quite right. I hope it's because he's still recovering from the cat flu.

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cozietoesie · 17/06/2013 20:13

Oh Dear. I'm wondering whether that's weakness through being an invalid? Could you keep him downstairs so that no stairs are required?

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cozietoesie · 17/06/2013 20:22

Does he seem to be using his tray OK, Toffee?

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