Show me your crossbreed puppy/dog please

[thatsmyspace]

We're thinking of getting another mixed breed dog. We already have a Chorkie and like the look of labradoodles or cockapoos. What's everyone got?

[feliciabirthgiver]

Yay! I knew Wolfefan would turn up on this thread.

Love a Grippet @Babygrey7

[macaroniandpizza]

itslikesputnik ill take a good guess and say lab x staffy for your boy as he looks the double of mine

[RR2903]

Our cross breed, Ralph, as a pup through to fully grown (and in need of a hair cut)

[User12345677777]

I’m ever so slightly in love with Ernie 💕

[foofooyeah]

My lovely crossbreed

[Doggyness]

Named changed as my dog is so distinctive!
My mongrel, possibly a shepherd x staff?

[Tutlefru]

Very happy with my poodle cross. theyre are decent breeders out there who won’t hesitate to show you all the relevant health tests they’ve had. Can be different depending on the breeds. The tests are different from vet checks so don’t be swayed by that.

I’ve a cav x poodle who needs a groom.

[HRHQueenMe]

Very happy cross breed owner. Lab Collie mix, both jet black, and born to good friends Lab Collie dog. x

[Wolfiefan]

You can trace the line and ensure that no puppies have been born with liver shunt.
My pup’s whole litter is clear. Ethical breeders try and eliminate the chance of liver shunt. And yes she came from an ethical breeder.

[Booboostwo]

Yovamon that is inaccurate. The first labradoodles were bred to be guidedogs for the blind for people who had dog allergies. That programme did not work, has ended but has spouted the craze of mix anything with anything and sell it for crazy money.


In the years I’ve been involved in dog training I’ve seen a handful of dogs that had naturally, seriously challenging behavioral problems. The majority of issues were man made through lack of socialisation/training, often by well meaning but idiotic people. Every so often we’d get someone asking about training classes for their 18mo dog as they thought the dog was old enough to start training!

[Ylvamoon]

Today 07:13 adaline

You take something people know (Labrador) and what people want (poodle coat), from that cross you take a bit more of what you want... (selection of size temperament coat & more) and start developing your new breed. This takes decades not just a few years. It's called genetics.
In the meantime, you get people imitating you because they think you are into something, they help to create the demand and keep you in business.

[Ylvamoon]

Yesterday 23:06 Wolfiefan

The reasons why dogs are in rescues IS not because people breed dogs it's because people buy dogs that are not right for them. And no it is not always the breeders fault for handing over a puppy to someone that in the end can't cope. Because no amount of reading / research can prepare you for owning a boisterous, snappy pupp.
As to cross breeding, I said my part, it's not always bad. In fact I welcome it, it's time for new traits in our favourite pet.
And even you have not bought an dog that is ethically sourced. Or would you say it is ok to produce puppies that can be born with a life threatening illness (liver shunt). It's really pot luck how many puppies in the litter will have the condition. You can't currently DNA test for it, so you don't even know if you breed a carrier with a carrier. All you can do is wait and test the puppies.

[BlueSlipperSocks]

a friend has got a cockapoo and she's a nightmare dog, needs professional grooming every 6 weeks at £40 a time, and she's untrainable. Friend deeply regrets getting anything with poodle in the mix. She also is a horrendous yappy dog


The dog needs professional grooming every 6 weeks? Maybe your friend should groom her dog in between going to the groomers. I know lots of cockapoos and labradoodles. They are professionally groomed every 3 months, at a cost of £25.

The dog is untrainable and yappy? Maybe the dog should get himself an owner who has some basic dog training skills...

[ChristmasFlary]

My XH paid £700 for a .....puggle....

[Wolfiefan]

Too old. You and me both.

[Toooldtobearsed2]

Thank you so much to recent posters.
I was told to get over myself earlier on this thread, and tbh, I can understand it.
I am not good with words and tend to waffle on. Recent posters have said what I wanted to so much better.
I love all dogs, pedigree, cross, heinz. I have had them all. I am not a snob, nor an inverted snob. I just fecking blether on about my own experiences and totally piss people off🤣

Thank God for posters capable of expressing themselves properly!

[Wolfiefan]

Boo and that’s why I won’t breed from my dog. I have neither the knowledge or experience to do a good job. I don’t think people have any idea (for the most part) of how much dedication and knowledge it takes.

[Booboostwo]

A good breeder undertakes breeding as an activity, which over many years, brings some kind of improvement to the breed

People can go wrong n a variety of ways and breeding pedigrees is not a guarantee that someone is a good breeder. For example, breeding towards a characteristic that is likely to make dogs suffer medical problems means that you are a shit breeder to begin with however KC amazing your dogs may be. Health screenings are necessary not just for individual dogs but for the line and the breed. Focused breeding efforts can minimize or eradicate some conditions.

Cross-breed breeders face a number of problems in being good breeders:

• firstly the start with reject dogs as no one wants to sell their top dogs for cross breeding
  
• often the motive of the buyers is how popular the breed is so the breeder needs to have a clear idea of what they are aiming for that will improve the cross breed in the animals they breed. Because it’s a new cross-breed, each breeder will have a different idea of what they are aiming for. The KC has the advantage of imposing a unified breed vision for each breed - which is also its disadvantage when it steers breeds in the wrong direction.
  
• the popularity of cross breeding is fickle, one moment it’s labradoodles, then jackpoos, then who knows what. There is no time to evaluate the cross breed, what is happening and what needs improving before moving onto the next fad.
  
• establishing a cross-breed is tough work, especially with the need to avoid close genetic connections.

[missbattenburg]

I think there are some lovely cross breeds but I have yet to come across many owners on here who can:

a) call out specifically what they wanted from a cross. They will talk about researching the breed and finding it the best fit for their family but, when questioned, cannot correctly and appropriately call out the characteristic they wanted that was not there in either of the parental breeds. For example, they will say they wanted the coat of the poodle but cannot identify what the cocker brings to the mix. They will say they wanted a calm dog but neither poodles or cockers are especially calm. In many cases (but not all), they are unaware of the random nature of the genetics and inheritance of traits that results in a low % chance of the puppy actually having the trait they wanted from one of the parents.

b) name a good breeder of crosses. I might have seen something like a dozen breeders named on mn as shining examples of good cross breeders but on visiting their website it has been obvious within seconds that I would rather spend the rest of my days without a dog that buy from them. Some of the websites have given me great cause for concern and, on two occasions, those breeders have turned up in the press within months having been shut down for cruelty. If these ethical and brilliant cross breeders exists, they are never named. I have only ever heard of 2 or 3 good cross breeders - outside mn - that are doing it for the health of the dogs, and they are not breeding popular crosses. They are attempting to remove health defects from bulldogs, Dalmatians and Dobermans.

Multiple pedigree breeds are indeed in a great deal of trouble. Some breeds are beyond saving and every single individual now born to those breeds is unhealthy and unfit to be used to produce the next generation. This is shameful. It is also the result of breeders (KC and all) that have bred dogs without proper attention to the science of it - because they didn't know or didn't care.

It should be used as the main reason for NOT to breed unless who are knowledgeable about genetics inheritance. It should serve as the warning it is, that shit things happen when unknowledgeable or unscrupulous people play games with dog's lives.

And yet it is used as to support hobby breeders. Some pedigree breeders are shit so why shouldn't Mrs Mable breed her Lab with next door's Dalmation? After all, she loves her lab and would love the puppies.

She is still doing the same harm as all those shit pedigree breeders that bred without any consideration for making the next generation of dogs markedly healthier than the last. We should be seeking increased health, not fluffier coats, bogglier eyes, shorter snouts, more bowed legs or whatever else.

I would support any breeder that is breeding for mental and physical health from a foundation of proper, scientific knowledge - no matter what breed they produced.

I would condemn any breeder not doing that - no matter what breed they produce.

Like pp, I would expect it to be easier to find breeders that fit into the first camp when looking for a pedigree than a cross. But would be (genuinely) delighted to be wrong.

[Wolfiefan]

I agree with tabula. No one is saying a cross breed can’t be a lovely dog and perfectly healthy. Of course they can be.

[DiaryofWimpyMumm]

My mums dog lhasa apso x schitzu most lovely natured dog I've known.

[tabulahrasa]

The thing is - there are loads and loads of shitty breeders, ranging from people breeding pedigrees that’s lets face it aren’t fit for the purpose of just existing healthily any more or backyard breeders without enough knowledge to prevent serious issues in puppies right through to dogs kept in horrendous conditions in a puppy farm and stunt families used to dupe buyers.

The issue with crosses isn’t to do with snobbery or that lots of crosses are or aren’t perfectly nice dogs.

It’s that it’s easier to weed out the bad breeders if you buy a pedigree puppy.

If you find a breeder that’s breeding to get a puppy to work, show or do an activity with... they’re invested in how those puppies turn out and they’re traceable.

That alone eliminates most of the dodgy breeders. (Obviously there are still other things you want to be checking)

[HowlsMovingBungalow]

Shock Horror - Poodles and poodle mixes need grooming?

No shit Sherlock!

[CatnissEverdene]

We've got a Sprocker. Mum is a springer spaniel/cocker spaniel mix, who went to stay with a family member when her humans went on holiday. She very unexpectedly came into season, and accidentally mated with family members dog, a working cocker. The family are local to us, the puppies were hand raised and handled from day 1 by 2 young girls and they've been exceptional. We had a pup purely because it came from a family home, and we already have a working cocker.

I'd be very wary of some of these crossbreeds...... a friend has got a cockapoo and she's a nightmare dog, needs professional grooming every 6 weeks at £40 a time, and she's untrainable. Friend deeply regrets getting anything with poodle in the mix. She also is a horrendous yappy dog.

[PinkGin24]

Call a spade a spade... it is a mongerel.