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Rescue dogs... a bad decision for a family, eh? BOLLOCKS!

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Vallhala · 02/05/2011 23:58

I've just got back home from a 5 day stay over at rescue. Me, 2 teenaged DDs and our 3 large dogs squeezed into a caravan with water from a bottle piped in, a chemical loo (gross!), one "room" in the caravan, all sleeping in the same bed. Covered in mud, bitten by mozzies, picking up shit, cleaning kennels....

.... and happy as Larry!

I've played with the pup who came into rescue from the pound with mange and manky, mucky eyes, bald as a coot and shaking, who's now a bouncy, affectionate babe with a glossy coat and looking for a forever home. I've cleaned the kennel of the ex-pound staffie cross year old girl who's as gentle as a lamb, quiet and biddable and showing HUGE promise as an agility dog and family pet. I've made friends with the GSD with fantastic bloodlines who came in wary of and growly with women and who, thanks to the lady half of the rescue's owners and one very dedicated volunteer now behaves impeccably with my sex and is so well trained as to put my own well behaved GSD to shame.

I've cuddled for the millionth time the Greyhound who was nearly put to sleep in an Irish pound because he was deemed bad tempered, as have my daughters. He's been in rescue for years now and so deserves a home of his own. We've interated with the Staffies no-one wants, the Dobe X and Anatolian Shepherd X brought up with babies whose owners are emigrating and the Boxer X unwanted because his owners had twins. We've handled and hugged the young Rottie who was going to be killed in the pound on the day rescue stepped in and took her and wondered why and just HOW she ended up on the streets because she's absolutely adorable and hasn't a bad bone in her body. And we've cuddled yet again Danny, the Rott unwanted by his owner who a year ago collapsed with a spinal problem, who the rescue spent thousands on to save and who despite his pain and fear when we had to carry him to toilet when he was paraplegic never so much as flinched at us (I was there last year when he collapsed - he barely knew me but let me manhandle him when if he'd wanted to could still have put me in hospital).

ALL these dogs were once someone's pet. They were ALL once someone's puppy... and originally ALL these dogs were bought by someone like YOU, from a breeder, from a friend, from free ads (bloody silly thing to do!). Each and every dog in that rescue was originally taken on as a pup by someone who thought they could handle them and whatever illness/housetraining issue/difficulty they might encounter in the future.

Because you see, there ARE no guarantees. Not even with a pup. The owners of our rescue dogs doubtless thought there were. They probably thought, as so many people do, that it's okay, that if they have a pup they can bring him up their way and avoid the "issues" that they assume rescue dogs have. Which is bloody strange when you consider that most of the dogs rescue see are teenagers in dog years... when the novelty of puppyhood has worn off and when the difficulties set in.

And that's where WE come in. That's where those dogs are handed into rescue as "too hard to manage" or when they're thrown into the streets. And WE sort it out. Whether we rehabilitate the women-wary dog or housetrain the peeing teenaged one. whether we just take in the dog which has lived with children but who is left behind when the owners move house or move to the States... we ASSESS them all. We WORK with them. We put them in foster homes with children and cats, we teach them to piddle outside, we overcome their fears, we teach them not to behave badly... so YOU can be sure that the dog you take from rescue is safe with your children, is safe with your cat. And sure, not all of them are... and when and if that's the case, we, like so many (and admittedly not all, which is why I ask you to seek out rescue which provides the things the one I help out at does) will tell you that the pretty dog you like is not for you and suggest instead those that are.

We ask you not to come looking for a Labrador because they are great family dogs - most ARE but mine doesn't like small DC! - we ask you not to come looking for a small dog.... we ask you to look for a dog which SUITS you. You may want a Poodle and you may write off Staffies... but I can introduce you to a stroppy arse poodle which would hate your children yet I can also show you a few fantastic, gentle, affectionate Staffies which would be your DCs friend for life. You want a low-shedding, couch potatoe? Look no further than one of our Greyhounds, Lurchers or Staffies! A cuddle monster? I have the perfect Anatolian Shepherd cross for you!

These are NOT somebody else's rejects.... these were somebody's tiny puppies once. These are carefully assessed, loved, precious dogs... and we don't rehome them carelessly or lightly. We might, as we have this week, rehome on a foster contract, so that we can still step in, we ALWAYS offer full support and back up and we will ALWAYS take the dog back if you can't keep him, even if that's in 10 years time. Hell, the rescue owner has this week rehomed a young dog (until the rescue took him in he was kept in a kitchen 24/7) to a family with a little boy, on a foster contract so with all food and any vet bills paid by rescue, until the owners are sure that it will all work out. They have the 24/7 support of a rescue volunteer and we will support and take him back if need be even if and when the family adopt him permanently. This is the rescue whose owner has just promised to pay the vet bills of the epilectic dog belonging to an MNer although he is nothing to do with them and is hundreds of miles away.

We CARE... and we are far from the only rescue like that. All this talk of all rescue dogs being unassessed and/or from unknown backgrounds is bollocks! Sure, some are... and we assess them AND you before even considering you as potential owners, for YOUR sake as well as the dogs and we would NEVER rehome a dog to you if he wasn't suitable. And, so many more HAVE got histories and backgrounds, like the Dobe X and Anatolian X who were brought up with newborns in the home and whose only problem is that the family are moving to the USA...and STILL we assess them before suggestiing them to families seeking to offer them a home.

Thank you for getting this far from a shit and mud covered, filthy, glad to be home with a shower and proper loo, happy as Larry to have been privilidged enough to have spent the past 5 days with those dogs and in the company of a very special rescue owner....

Val. :)

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bedlambeast · 05/05/2011 17:49

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wildfig · 05/05/2011 17:34

hear hear.

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coccyx · 05/05/2011 15:50

Val, I am surprised you have time to write such a fab post.
I second all that you put

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mistlethrush · 05/05/2011 14:07

I'm now on 4th rescue dog - first one came when I was 5 - we got her from the rescue at 8wks - but she'd been beaten up by a man so badly she was frightened of them for life. She was a great companion to grow up with though, and the house felt so empty without her, we only waited 3 days before going off to a shelter for another. Another badly beaten one as it transpires - we thought she was a corgi cross due to her short legs - but discovered some weeks later she was actually a collie cross that had been cowering all the time. She was so frightened of children that she would attack - clearly had been goaded severely (she was only 10mo when we got her) but with the help of the next door neighbour's son, throwing biscuits over the (solid), and gradually daring to put a hand over to do it, then peep over, she became less worried - and worked out that she could get away to us and that was the best option.

We thought she was hyperactive until we got the third, when no2 was 3yo - in an attempt to help no2 with her dog phobia (totally unsocialised) - we soon found out why we were her 3rd home even though she was only a very cute 4mo. She turned out to be a terrier/ collie cross - not one that I'd really recommend to anyone that wants to keep their sanity - but a loving dog and wonderful pet. Completely unsuitable for a family with children though - she had absolutely no patience and a rather short temper.

Then, having left home, got married, DH and I decided that we wanted our own dog. So off to the local rescue where I had previously done quite a bit of walking. 'Just to walk' and see what we thought we might be able to think about. One of the essentials was to be good with children - as although we didn't have any of our own, friends did - and we were thinking about starting a family (actually trying, but that's another story). The one we particularly liked the look of had a cautionary 'needs experienced owner' - realistically she needed to have owners that knew how to train a dog and help with socialisation (and have one who got up every night for 6mo at 3am to let her into the garden - insecurity I think). We could not have asked for a better dog, particularly to have whilst bringing up a child.

Our next dog will, probably, be a lurcher - and we will be contacting rescues when the time comes - ds will be a good playmate out on walks - but the couch potato at home between walks will suit what we can offer.

I really don't know why getting a pedigree is so popular, but then I don't know why people get dogs as a status symbol or certain breeds for their 'hard' image.

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JustCallMeGrouchy · 05/05/2011 13:37

fair few seem to have it .Which at the time was hard to take that they had blanket ban without meeting my son .We even had home check of one and that was fine no problems till ds came home and then was refused.

Realstically it is now on a back burner as I adjust to life in a wheelchair but would like to look into it again at some point

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musicposy · 05/05/2011 13:34

stleger , as a sheltie owner would love to see pics!

Grouchy, would a different rescue have a different policy?

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JustCallMeGrouchy · 05/05/2011 13:30

I had been weighing up a dog from rescue centre but we was turned down because they was worried about ds having sn and having a dog .My mums had loads of rescue dogs infact only one that was not was when we were young and we had ours from a puppy

Despit eme pointing out ds has no behaviour problems and has been round my mums dogs and my friends very large neopolitian bull mastif infact he has spent week staying with them and knows how to behave around dogs and not to stroke dogs without permission and knows not to tug or pull dogs around

But apparentley its a blanket ban .Am going to leave it a while as been fair few changes and try again though truth I am expecting to be told that with me now eing wheelchair user that we are not suitable

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stleger · 05/05/2011 13:18

If you really want a rescue greyhound, don't take a twelve year old girl with you... we ended up with a whippet/sheltie, who looks and behaves like a teddy/kangarooo Grin....

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Elibean · 05/05/2011 10:33

Grin Now I get what you are all saying about clever Springers!

Mine was a rescue too, and part Lab - he was old and well behaved, so jumping up to a counter was way unexpected: have to confess I laughed at dh and was happy my old boy could still succumb to temptation!

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Bast · 05/05/2011 10:23

Straight off their plates ...incidentally, he was a rescue too!

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Bast · 05/05/2011 10:21

Childhood Springer, while staying with GP's (one a farmer and shepherd, the other a trainer and judge!) wandered (apparently) very innocently past GP's knees as they sat on the sofa, about to enjoy a rare TV dinner after a hard working day.

Given Springer didn't even break stride as he passed, it was only as he disappeared through the door that they realised he'd taken a large fillet of plaice with him Grin

Eli, aww! Smile

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Elibean · 05/05/2011 10:11

Grin at the raw chicken fest. Reminds me of the evening dh-to-be came home looking forward to the roast leg of lamb I'd left on the kitchen worktop...bone, licked clean, later discovered hidden behind armchair. dh was not happy, but as poor old Dingo got ill and died a week later, we were both so glad for him - it was a rare event, and a good way to go!

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emptyshell · 05/05/2011 09:06

Hubby had a springer growing up - his finest hour was opening the oven door and eating an entire chicken in there that was waiting to be cooked.

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Bast · 05/05/2011 08:25

Northern, same here! Brought up with amongst others, Springers Grin I adore their zany happiness and the bounce.

Val, my dog as a young adult was a GSD. As far as 'obedience' went, she seemed near telepathic. I'm sure you know what I mean Wink

They are very different kettles of fish! My eldest DD is enrolled for obedience training as a child handler with Sprocker, with a view to training with the same lady for agility, in time.

The one thing I'd say about Springers and any cross of, is that their soppy whackiness should never, ever be misconstrued as a lack of intelligence. Your description Val is spot on! They're cute, fluffy and bouncy but very observant, intelligent and wily working dogs.

G and slightly Zany SOH required Smile and a lorry load of patience and radical thought as far as training goes!

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Vallhala · 05/05/2011 00:12

PMSL at the quiche-pilfering pooch!

Re Sprockers... one of PFK's volunteers became involved with the rescue when she and her daughters, then both under 10, adopted from PFK a Sprocker from an Irish pound. This was one of those dogs without a history, I believe he'd been picked up as a stray. He's now the centre of their lives and is doing FANTASTICALLY in agility competitions with D, his dedicated and clever owner. He's great with her children and her other daughter's baby when they visit and last year gained a canine pal in the shape of a border collie. He's soon to be host to a PFK foster dog all being well and has done so in the past, sharing his family and sofa with foster and visiting dogs beautifully.

He's fast, he's bright, he's smarter than the average dog and not for the fainthearted as he NEEDS a job to do and agility fills that gap perfectly. D is an experienced dog owner who once owned Dobes... I don't think I could have made the transition from owning a biddable German breed (as I do as a GSD owner) to Sprocker/agility dog owner and trainer but if you are able to keep up with such a dog I know that the rewards are immense.

Bast, we know all about bounce here... my younger GSD is a large, leggy example of the breed and went through a long teenaged period of excitable bounce behaviour. It took time and patience but it's paid off... he now bounces in the fields when walking but knows not to bounce unsupecting passers by, visitors or other dogs. And, as I keep saying, I'm no trainer or behaviouralist, I just save 'em... and if I can do it I'm sure others can too. The praise HE now gets when he sits nicely to let passing riding schoolers go past is his alone, not mine.

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Northernlurker · 04/05/2011 23:44

Bast - sprocker sounds great! Grrrh at the first owners though - having been bought up with Springers I am infuriated by anyone who is surprised by the vibrance of Springers. Hello! There's a clue in the name.........

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BorisTheBold · 04/05/2011 23:34

Excellent post Val - I salute you Smile

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SingingSands · 04/05/2011 23:31

I loved reading that post. I have a little daydream of bringing home a rescue greyhound one day, perhaps when the kids are in high school. DD agrees with me so roll on that day.

Keep up the good work Val.

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stleger · 04/05/2011 23:29

Our rescue dog, who must have been the cutest puppy ever, was 'impossible to handle', but at least handed in. It took about three months for him to stop having tantrums to get attention. Two years on... dd1 had a friend in, and I was chatting with the girls after dinner. Ddog got up on a chair and sat there looking very human. Then he nicked some quiche Blush.... he didn't know he isn't allowed to do it because it never happened before!

Vall, I think you answered a query re insurance and rescue pets - ddog had knee surgery (he is a bit of a whippet, he likes to run, he kept falling on ice); Insurance co. were difficult and wanted us to prove his injury didn't date from before we got him. So it is probably worthwhile asking a vet for a quick 'clean bill of health' when you get a pet, just for your records. Ours paid up, but I think they are starting to question a lot.

When you have a rescue dog, you meet a lot of dogwalkers - there is a special bond with the other rescues though.

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SchnoogleDyBroogle · 04/05/2011 23:07

Val, I have been lurking in the doghouse as we are considering getting a dog, please rest assured that your message has been received loud and clear, and that we would now only consider a rescue dog. I am glad you are there making a difference in the lives of so many dogs. xx

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Bast · 04/05/2011 22:53

Our adoptee is a 5 month Sprocker.

Unwanted because (wait for it..) he was too excitable.

He was 5 months old and a Springer Cocker cross!

A little guidance and he's now aware of the difference between appropriate bounce and inappropriate bounce Wink

(e.g. we don't bounce on the cats, at people who are invited into our home or barrel across the room and bounce on to anyone sitting on the sofa, unaware (and usually looking in the other direction at the time)! When we are free to bounce, we never, ever nip. Basic stuff, it's just no-one had told him that every other moving object isn't necessarily another puppy wanting to play too!)


Kudos to you Val, your daughters and all the other dog angels out there!

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terrier141 · 04/05/2011 16:57

Lol! i could've failed with most of them if hubby had let me! The dog we adopted was from "our" rescue - just with another fosterer! We have 2 spingers and 2 cats of our own and currently fostering a 14yr old Springer and a 6mth old Lurcher. Trust me - my will power is very weak with the oldie Springer!!! Watch this space - i may join the failed foster club after all!

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QuietTiger · 03/05/2011 18:17

I have 3 cats like that. They were fosters who never moved out. Blush

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Scuttlebutter · 03/05/2011 18:01

Terrier - I am in awe of your will of steel - not caving and homing one of your fosters. Brilliant! Most of the fosterers I know (including us Blush) have failed at some point - our Greyhound no 3 downstairs on the sofa arrived as a foster and has, ahem, never left.

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QuietTiger · 03/05/2011 17:34

Fantastic post, Val. Says it all really.

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