Child genius -which bright spark decided to put it on on a Tuesday???

[Emochild]

Anyone watching?

[noblegiraffe]

Just flipped learning isn't a child watching a video and teaching themselves, it's watching the video or accessing the resources then having input from a teacher to consolidate.

An online class which had a teacher to interact with the bright student would not be free, so we're back to cost.

Just directing a bright primary student to online resources e.g. Khan academy is passing the responsibility for organising learning to a student who is probably not mature enough to be able to do it successfully.

[BertrandRussell]

Zzzzz- so you're talking about starting from scratch rather than working within the system we have?

[BertrandRussell]

So what do we do in September?

[Icimoi]

Of course there is a Sen budget for children who are advanced. The school (and parents) have a legal duty to provide an appropriate wedding

Of course there isn't. The SEN budget is there to provide for children who have SEN within the legal definition, i.e. children with a learning difficulty or disability.

[BertrandRussell]

Just tell me and I'll do it. I don't like my child not getting appropriate education all the time - I'd love it if he did.

[RedDaisyRed]

Bertrand, have you considered very selective private schools? My daughter was at North London Collegiate - every girl there is bright but there are some very very very clever ones too and they seem to get an appropriate education there. You might need a full time job plus a second weekend job but it would be worth it. Most towns in the UK have similar very very academic private day schools and some have grammar schools and some parents move to be near schools like that as they put the child first.

[JustRichmal]

Being ahead does not come under SEN. There is no SEN money given over to those who are further ahead simply because they are further ahead.

zzzzz, I do agree every child should have an education appropriate to their needs, but they can have any rights they want, if the budget is not there, they are not going to get it.

Noble, I do know flip learning is not simply giving a child a computer course to work through. I was more thinking, with limited resources, looking at innovative ways to utilise computer courses could be preferable to the child having to sit through explanations of things they mastered several years back and enrichment consisting of giving them a more difficult work sheet with no extra teaching.

[JustRichmal]

Daisy, I can see sending a child to private school would be a solution, but state should be providing an education for those who cannot afford it. It is wrong that education should be only for those who can pay.

I ended up home educating because the primary system was failing to provide an appropriate education for dd. Not everyone can do this. We should be looking for modern ways for these children to get a better education.

Now at secondary things are a lot better.

[BertrandRussell]

Zzzzzz- you say that the money is there to provide all our children with an appropriate education, and we just need to walk the walk. You are the only person I have ever come across who thinks this. So I asked- OK then, happy to walk the walk- what do I do?

And answer came there none.

I repeat. In a world of shamefully limited resources, such SEN budget as there is has to go to those who, for want of a better word, are "behind" or who have specific issues which get in the way of them accessing learning. It would be wholly inappropriate to use that money to provide a A level maths teacher to a NT year 5.

[BertrandRussell]

is your contention that there is enough money in the budget to fully meet the needs of every child in state education? But that money is being witheld because teachers don't want to meet those needs?

[BertrandRussell]

So when you say there is enough money and we just need to walk the walk what do you mean exactly?

[BertrandRussell]

"We are ALL aware of the constraints of limited resources."

Well, you obviously aren't. Or you wouldn't say that providing a 1:1 A level maths teacher for a year 5 is an appropriate use of a school's SEN budget. Yes, if everything was different and we managed things differently then there might be more money for schools- but here and now there isn't. And here and now that year 5 maths prodigy is much more able to meet her own needs in maths via online resources and so on than a child who is struggling to access the curriculum at all.

[BertrandRussell]

Right. Even more confused now.

When you said there is enough money to educate all our children appropriately and we just have to walk the walk, what exactly did you mean?