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Ds 17, shocking as results, is adhd a possibility or am I being ridiculous? (Probably long)

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iknowimcoming · 29/08/2019 16:11

Ds is funny kind caring (mostly) can have a quick temper, had anxiety when he was younger but seems to have grown out of it. He is a gamer, no social life other than online maybe a party once or twice a year but otherwise nothing. Has a group of nice enough mates (male and female) at school but no one he seems particularly close to. Has held down a part time job with no real problems although a few comments about him not going the extra mile.

Teachers have always said the same - he's academically very bright but lazy, a typical boy, only does the bare minimum. Gcse grades were ok bit disappointing but nothing drastic. At the last parents evening teachers were worried for his a levels, said he needed to be doing lots more than he was, he says yeah he knows etc nothing changes. We try everything we can to get him to revise and he says it's all under control, exams, he says have gone well. We are cautious but hopeful.

D in epq (predicted b/c) d - computing pred c, e in physics pred c, u in maths pred c. Total disaster - he wants to go to uni to do computer science (gaming) but won't get into anywhere decent without an a level maths. He says he will retake whole year as really wants to go to uni - we say ok but things will have to change etc he says fine.

We are on holiday we have been doing a padi scuba diving course both dd and dh have commented on his lack of concentration and attention. I idly googled add and adhd and it's all there, forgetfulness, lack of organisation, lack of focus, anxiety, quick temper. This is already too long so am I just looking for excuses for him, is it worth getting checked out? Is it too late now anyway if he were to have it or similar? I feel like I'm a terrible person as I might've missed something big, dh says he's a lazy git who doesn't have trouble concentrating on his phone or computer games? Where would I start even? Sad

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Keladrythesaviour · 07/03/2022 17:44

@Wondergirl100 if you read the OPs updates you can see he went from failing his Alevels to getting an A after starting medication, so I think diagnosis has done him good.

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Wondergirl100 · 07/03/2022 17:35

Hi Op. I have ADHD and it was not diagnosed until I was an adult. I was very like your son - quick temper, very disorganised, bright but chaotic poor grades - was asked to leave school. I was v sociable the only difference.

I am going ot be brutally honest - will it make any difference knowing he has adhd? The only difference is he will know he needs to try harder.

I do think a diagnosis is useful - but I think the obsession with labels (And I say this having one myself and one of my children is autistic) - can be unhelpful - he is who he is, he won't change after the diagnosis.

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Soontobe60 · 07/03/2022 15:44

[quote Ramanama]@Soontobe60
You seem to be implying that your friend's son doesn't have ADHD but every single thing you have listed is a classic symptom of ADHD even the self-medicating with drugs and problems with relationships. What a shame that he didnt get the support and medication that he needed when he was younger. I have huge sympathy for your friend for what she will have gone through with her son (as I have been through it!), no doubt also with friends and family that have no understanding of a devastating and life-altering condition.[/quote]
He didn’t need any support or medication when he was younger. He lived his best life! Even he says he doesn’t have ADHD, but just went along with it to stop him mum moaning.
You do know that there are many people out there who are more than capable of playing a system of diagnosis where there is no actual medical tests that prove or disprove whether someone has a mental health condition or not? And that ADHD medication is highly sought after on the street? There’s also a lot of research around the over diagnosis of ADHD.
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2778451
www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/is-adhd-overdiagnosed-and-overtreated#is-adhd-overdiagnosed

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Ramanama · 07/03/2022 15:29

@Soontobe60
You seem to be implying that your friend's son doesn't have ADHD but every single thing you have listed is a classic symptom of ADHD even the self-medicating with drugs and problems with relationships. What a shame that he didnt get the support and medication that he needed when he was younger. I have huge sympathy for your friend for what she will have gone through with her son (as I have been through it!), no doubt also with friends and family that have no understanding of a devastating and life-altering condition.

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Soontobe60 · 07/03/2022 15:01

@Fleetheart

The school will definitely not suggest if they think it’s adhd. They are neither psychologists nor in that zone in secondary.

I would see if you can get a QB test done for him add-Vance can advise you on this.

If you have private health insurance you should be able then to get an assessment done. If he doesn’t have adhd then there is no harm done. If he does then medication/ techniques may help him. It is never too late. Or look up the adhd foundation and ask them for some guidance. 🙂

My friends very precious only son has recently had a private diagnosis of ADHD done (hes 23 and dropped out of Uni twice!). He is on medication which costs my friend about £150 a month! He can’t get it on the NHS and keeps swanning off abroad to see the world. He was absolutely fine at secondary school - sailed through his GCSEs with mainly A and A*s. Not too bad in 6th form initially but then crashed in the second year. Ended up doing a foundation year, onto a degree but again crashed. Had a year off, returned to a different course and lasted 18 months.
He drinks to excess, likes to use weed and cocaine at times, treats his many girlfriends like shit but his mum has put it all down to ADHD, which he was diagnosed with recently.
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Ramanama · 07/03/2022 14:44

I've just noticed the dates that this was from years ago! OP, I hope your son continued to thrive on the medication and got into the course he wanted.

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Ramanama · 07/03/2022 14:39

@kiki22

I guess it's possible however I'm very wary of the labelling that we are doing now there seems to be an epidemic of parents wanting a reason for their child being lazy, spoiled bad tempered whatever the issue is it's easier to say they have xyz rather than tackle the issue.

I'm not saying it is the case for you I have never met you or your son so couldn't even guess but I would think about what your husband says and if you truly believe that adhd is a possibility.

A friend of mine believes her daughter has pathological demand disorder however all professionals involved have basically said she's spoiled and knows tantrums get her way. For my friend her daughter having a condition is easier than admitting she's a spoiled brat and out of control.

*disclaimer I do think that there are health related reasons in many children and adults I'm absolutely not saying anyone is lying or making anything up.

As a mother of a child whose school years have been hell on earth due to ADHD leading to mental health issues and family breakdown - this post sums up what has been the most painful thing throughout - other people's uninformed opinions about your child and your parenting.

To the OP - it definitely sounds familiar and your son is highly likely to have ADHD. It is extremely under-diagnosed. Good luck with everything.
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GreatAndWonderous · 07/03/2022 11:15

@iknowimcoming Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but we find ourselves in a very similar situation to you. Would you also be able to PM me with where you went for diagnosis, please? Hoping your DS has continued to make great strides since his diagnosis

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Busymum45 · 09/03/2020 14:07

Can you message me too? Thank you

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iknowimcoming · 04/03/2020 20:29

@notaflyingmonkey - I've pm'd you Smile

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notaflyingmonkey · 04/03/2020 09:46

Hi OP, would you mind PMing me with where you went to have him diagnosed please?

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Porpoises · 03/03/2020 19:32

Delighted to read the update, was just about to reply to your first post to say my partner has been diagnosed with ADHD in his 30s and it's been great for him. Really helped his self esteem, helped him make sense of the past, and he is finding meds very effective, he's just got to work out which ones give him the least side effects. He's now starting to properly plan for the future rather than feel it's all going to go wrong so what's the point.

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/03/2020 19:24

Thanks for the update, it's great to hear he's doing so well Smile

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iknowimcoming · 02/03/2020 15:48

Sorry I should also have said (although we didn't use them) I have heard good things about Psychiatry-UK.com which is much cheaper at about £360

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3luckystars · 02/03/2020 15:36

That's amazing. Thanks for the updates.

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Misandei · 02/03/2020 15:27

OP thanks so much for the detailed description. That's very useful. Perhaps we will look into it a second time.

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Busymum45 · 02/03/2020 15:07

Oh that's how it was done so fast, I wish we could afford to do that but sadly no 🙁

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iknowimcoming · 02/03/2020 14:13

Apologies thought I had said earlier but we went private as wait for camhs locally is two years plus, initially saw the gp who did a referral letter and i then made a private appointment costing £1500 plus private prescription costs and follow up appointment charges. We had to fill in a lengthy questionnaire each (parent and child) and for Ds we needed a teacher to complete one as well.

Then on the day DS did a Qb check (computer test) had an assessment of his iq and general aptitude and some psychiatric questions and I was interviewed to give a full history of him since birth. Then the psychiatrist and psychologist had a discussion and we were called in and told the diagnosis, discussed medication and after some basic physical checks (blood pressure, weight etc) we were sent home with a prescription.

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Misandei · 02/03/2020 12:34

That sounds great OP. How did you get him assessed? was it via NHS or private? we tried to get ds assessed but GP said he couldn't see anything needing referral to CAHMS so we couldn't take it any further even though i am almost certain he has ADD the inattentive kind. Can you say what your assessment process was?

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Busymum45 · 02/03/2020 11:19

This sounds just like my ds 18, we are convinced he has ADHD. How did you get this discussed and the medication etc?

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iknowimcoming · 29/02/2020 09:45

Morning! Thanks for your comments! @Misandei His appetite is ok - it's never been huge, although he will eat anything, just never very much, he lost 2 pounds initially but has regained one and we are closely watching it although the psychiatrist is happy and has signed him off for 6 months. We've done stuff like changed to full fat milk for him and now he's had his braces off swapped to buying full fat coke for him, and just generally nagging him to eat more. He doesn't take his meds on a weekend in an effort to feed him up more on weekends but I'm not sure it makes much difference to his eating and he does seem to be very tired on days when he doesn't take them.

The gp has now taken over his prescriptions thankfully as that was £££. I think it's his confidence which is the biggest change tho, which was kind of shocking initially (couple of minor instances in school) he's told all his friends about his adhd and is much more proactive about speaking to teachers etc and sorting things out for himself in school. He said he feels the biggest help is sitting the exams in a small room with only a few others, he didn't use any breaks as he didn't feel he needed them. School also sent information to all his teachers making sure if anything is awry they immediately contact me so we can kick him up the arse which has worked well too. So on the whole all very positive so far Grin

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CrackerWantAPolly · 29/02/2020 04:33

That’s brilliant OP, so glad for your son! The ‘A’ is brilliant!

In reference to the possibility of ASD - my ds was diagnosed with ASD in his mid teens. After initially struggling with the idea of being ‘different’ he’s now come round to the idea. His processing is slower than people without ASD (too much other stuff to think about - maintaining the ‘mask’ is a huge mental drain) which has helped him understand why he doesn’t always get things other people immediately have - he’s very bright but as the pace got faster he was missing things.

Now he’s more willing to ask for things to be repeated, he gets extra time for tests (which he is using) and he’s being much more open about things he would usually have kept to himself. Overall I think his diagnosis has been a really positive thing him.

Btw he is empathetic. Often far more than his NT sibling!

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Misandei · 29/02/2020 01:23

How is he coping with the drug effect on his appetite?

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Weenurse · 29/02/2020 00:34

Great update

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Windinmyhair · 29/02/2020 00:18

What a difference.

You must be so proud of him - and you caught it at the perfect time, it would have been a much harder journey through the rest of a levels and degree without that diagnosis.

Hope your journey goes well too!

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