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There are lots of new piggies on Small Pets- Welcome :)

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 07/05/2016 18:45

Of course we need/want to see Pigtures of the new arrivals ('tis The Law) Wink

And feel free to ask any questions and somewhere amongst the collective powers of Small Pets/ Super Furry Animals, there will be answers.

There are loads of food threads. What they can/cannot eat. How often.
Bedding- what's good/what isn't.

How to cut their pesky claws
How to bath them and tell the tale

Weird things about sows . They go into season. They can pee out the back Grin at a 90 degree angle. They can get various cysts and mammary ,ovarian or uterine growths.

Weird things about boars. They are space greedy. They can get impaction. They will dominance mount a male cagemate. Grease glands. Boar Glue.

Take time to get to know them.
Their noises. What do they mean?
What are they like when they're well, you'll pick up quicker when they're ill. They can do the Well-To-Dead very quickly Sad

What do they need in Winter? In Summer?

Do you know the nearest Guinea-Savvy vet? You hopefully will never need one, but in case you do.

Weigh them. Keep a note. Every week if you can. Often weight loss is one of the first signs of illness.

Feel their coars and bodies. My girl has a lump under her armpit, hasn't changed , we monitor it.

Love them. They are shy. They are prey.
They will pee you, but 99% of the time they'll let you know, you have to read the signs. Ours 'dance' backwards , that's our cue.

They are the most vunerable, easy going, good tempered animals. Even my piggie who is feisty (mine are all Rescues) isn't mean but she's like a spring.

They thrive on routine. If breakfast is 8am, it's 8am. They will happily wheek if the fridge door opens or you have a bag of crisps.

They are lucky to be with you. There are 10000s in Rescue but also 10000s on gumtree who are waiting to be "got rid of" because The Kids Lost Interest/I Want a Puppy/ I Haven't Got Time.
You though, are lucky to have the unending love of these little animals who WILL take over your life.
For the next few years , if you are lucky, 8-9 years.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 16/05/2016 21:35

too greedy to be fly that's my kind of piggie Wink

Ours went out today once DD got home, so had about 4 hours grazing, but in the evening they become more active (and uncatchable) chasing round the run.
GP6 was trying it on with my piggie, she was not having it. (She was in season last week, he missed his chance. The fact he hasn't got bollocks doesn't cross his mind , Bless Him)

Trevor and Rubble will settle into Lardy Boar Status , enjoy them while they're tiny (and barmy) Grin

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MsMermaid · 16/05/2016 22:42

They really are starting to show their personalities. Ninja is the boss piggy, she claims the best house, and sends poor Ginger scurrying out with a squeak. Ginger is braver about coming to investigate food and give a hand a good sniff (she doesn't get much choice, Ninja sends her out to see if it's safe)

I love hearing about other piggies. It's great.

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FernieB · 17/05/2016 09:31

Rubble has taken to standing sadly by his food bowl glaring at me. Currentbun does this, but if I don't pay enough attention, he picks up his heavy ceramic bowl and throws it across his cageShock. Luckily the piggies aren't strong enough to do this, they rattle the water bottle instead.

Piggies thought I'd forgotten them the other day. I'd left them out as it was so nice. So they were out from 10 am and they were still out at 8pm. They were very Angry at being left out so long and jumped straight into their box to go inside. Also, they were starving as they'd missed second breakfast, lunch, afternoon tea and dinner (conveniently forgetting they'd been moved to fresh grass every couple of hours and had mowed the lawn to bowling green standards). Apparently they needed a very substantial supper to make up for the missed meals.

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EastMidsGPs · 17/05/2016 13:55

What's this mum.? It's a Tuesday afternoon and you're home and we're in our run. Result!!😀

There are lots of new piggies on Small Pets- Welcome :)
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MsMermaid · 17/05/2016 13:57

We don't have a lawn, so Ginger and Ninja won't be able to go out and graze, and it wouldn't be wise for them to be out grazing anyway with the location of our "garden". So I have to make it up to them by cutting grass for them at work and bringing it home. I cut it from a wonderful patch of unkempt grass behind the sports hall, where no lawnmower has ever been round there, no pupils go back there, and nobody walks their dog there either. They get a pretty good bagful every afternoon when I come in, with dandelions as well.

Ours are ALWAYS hungry, especially for carrot or broccoli stalks (they don't like the florets Confused), but lettuce, tomatoes and peppers are acceptable as well.

If you have an expandable tunnel for them, one of the plastic ones with grooves in, how on earth do you get all the poo out without it being a completely gross stick your hand in to get them out? We tried having a ramp with a tunnel attached (because they won't use the ramp if it's exposed) and they were happily running up and down it but pooed like crazy and it's really difficult to get it properly clean. Any ideas?

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EastMidsGPs · 17/05/2016 17:28

I have been known to venture forth to our local community field for grass supplies when our small lawn is bare. There is a wonderful wild area that no one goes near ... although i do get strange looks if anyone sees me.

We have a nylon tunnel, you can fold it up to put away .. but we don't as it springs back at you PING.
So we just up end it and the poo drops out. I also leave it out for the rain to wash it .. but apparently this makes me a slattern, so every so often DH washes it properly, inside and out. Then the girls ignore it.
They do get a bit smelly when they sit in it and pee in it .. and then they get a bum dip.
No experience of plastic tunnels i'm afraid.

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MsMermaid · 17/05/2016 17:33

The plastic tunnel sort of has grooves in it, where all the poo gets stuck. Upending it doesn't get much of the poo out at all :(

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FernieB · 17/05/2016 18:24

Would a powerful hose blast the poo out? I've given up on,these tunnels for that reason. Mine make do with igloos.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 17/05/2016 18:45

I have a red tunnel (like a continous spring wire spiral covered in plastic) they are little gits to get out of it Hmm. We have to compress it smaller without catching their limbs.

To clean it, yes hose , then a sluice with washing up liquid and stand on end. Till they go back in and pooh again.
They've got Hop In tunnels too which I scrub with an old washing up brush.

Our pigs are relaxing in their new Piggie Hutch (in their run) .GP6 (boar) was the last one to fathom out how to get in to the hutch , he pootled round the bars cooing at the girls who had worked out where the doors were.
He isn't the Sharpest Knife in the Drawer Grin

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EastMidsGPs · 17/05/2016 20:37

GrinGrinGrin

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Purplerainbow2 · 19/05/2016 09:36

Hi there, glad I found a thread full of piggie lovers. I had them growing up and trying to get a bonded pair for the dc (well me really!) Iv tried to re home a bonded pair but struggling to find some that aren't older ones. I don't know if I should get babies due to the skittiness and don't want to get an older pair as these are for the dc and I don't want to only have them for a short time as they have been through some heart ache this last year. What I wanted to know, would any of you buy a pair from the free ads? I know to be careful of certain breeders but wondered if you would buy off free ads? I found a pair of females 18 months old, with equipment etc and it says 'due to changes in our circumstances' that they are selling? Obviously you would go and have a look, but something makes me a little wary of this? Maybe I'm being silly?

Iv rang a few rescue places and none have a bonded pair that are both happy to be cuddled. I think it's important to have a pair that are happy to sit on dc lap as I don't want them losing interest.

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froubylou · 21/05/2016 21:01

Have you been to see them yet Purple? No advice because I am newly owned myself.

I got shouted at tonight for the first time! It's rained here all afternoon so popped put to check on their food and water after my tea. They had a few remnants of the grass I picked the other day, half a bowl.of muesli left and enough hay. Because they had a bit.of grass left and they have had quite a bit of it over the last 3 days and because they still had the pellets and a few other bits left if their dried food I foolishly thought they had plenty until morning.

Went to walk away and when they realised I wasn't going to the shed or plying them with salad or veg Rubble quite aggressively squeal whistled at me. Then Trevor bombed up the ramp and joined in.

Obviously I did as I was told and filled up their bowl and gave them more hay. And I thought ponies were demanding. If they start banging the door there will be trouble!

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 21/05/2016 21:38

Purple

The problem with the Free Ads and Gumtree is you have no way of telling if the sellers are geniune. If the reason why they're selling is they are moving/the children are allergic/the children have lost interest.
Or if the parents have just got sick of the rodents,the noise,the hay everywhere and having to nag the children to clean them.
Change in circumstances might mean some change in the family or they're getting a dog and want rid of the pigs.


Are there any health problems?
What are the temprements of the animals?
Do they want £££ to "ensure a 5 Star home" (which I'm always really Hmm at because obviously they paid money and the piggies didn't get a 5* home there). Usually it's to ensure they don't end up as snake food/dog fight bait , but TBH, if I was keeping rodent eating reptiles would I drive miles to pick up a cavy?

And , they always insist on collection, they obviously don't give a monkeys where they end up then.

If I was buying from a private seller, I'd check/double check that they are the gender they state.
And if I needed a cage, I might buy the one on offer (I have ample cage/housing so I wouldn't) but I'd offer to send a donation to a charity and have the reciept sent to the seller so they knew I was legit., if I was feeling generous (bear in mind you are taking on the lifetime of food,cleaning,boarding fees and vets bills)

A young adult pair would still have the appeal without the skittiness (though there are few things as beautiful as a piglet guinea)

When I got my GP5, she was very skitty, wouldn't sit still. It took a while but with routine and care, she's lovely, but I wouldn't say she'd make a childs pet (my DD has the other 2 pigs)

If you go to a Rescue, you get the back up. Advice at the end of a phone. If there's any problems they will take them back (a fact my guineas are well aware of, if they try to kill me in my sleep Wink )
They'll be health checked, usually bathed and mite treated. Most ask a donation of £10-£15 (more for a neutered boar).
And the money goes back to the Rescue rather than refund a seller.

If you look into buying the sows, your DC will have years of piggies to enjoy (if the average is 5-8 years life)
But think about if your DC do lose interest, the care will fall on you .
Think about allergies too. Hay is a common allergen, and fur (my DD is okay with some pigs fur but not Rex or Teddy . Our GP3 was Rex, our GP6 is Teddy)
But she cuddles them, helps to clean,feed,bath,nailcut. I do 60% of the work even though I only own 33% of the pigs.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 01/06/2016 21:19

Shamelessly bumping this thread to add my two new furbabies onto the RollCall of new piggies.

Tilly (Matilda) and Tarragon (the Dragon- from 'The Herbs') joined us last week from Rescue.
Lovely little girls, had been living with other sows in Rescue.
Possibly a bit "When was THIS decided" when our boar tries to chat them up. Rumblestrutting, prowling, doing that funny little dance where they step from paw to paw.
He's all Hey Ladeez,there's enough Bert to go around
He's very vocal, quite protective of his sows so when he has another two wives (they aren't all together yet) he'll have his paws full Grin

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froubylou · 06/06/2016 17:03

Errrm I think Trevor might possibly be a Tracey.

He/she has a rounder tummy, long nipples and I can't see a pens. Rubble definitely has a penis.

Rubble will have used his pens by now won't he? Fuck.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 06/06/2016 19:25

Shock how old is Trevor? (Rubble is ? 12 weeks)

You can give a gentle squeeze on either side of their genitals, if it's a boar, the penis will be pushed out.
When we got GP3 he was 6 weeks old and didn't have bollocks but did have a willy.

If you're in doubt, get a vet to check them but I reckon separate them as quick as possible and get him checked as quick as possible. If he does turn out to be boar, you want to get them back together.

Hopefully , if 'he's' a 'she' nothing will have taken place .

Pregnancy in piggies takes 63-70 days and takes a while to get the really pg shape. He might just be a more lardy shape?

Cross fingers

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froubylou · 06/06/2016 20:37

Rubble is about 12-13 weeks I reckon. I am not sure about Trevor as he was a rescue. Younger than rubble I think or maybe just smaller? He is almost as long as rubble now but still not as fat. He has really long black nipples which is what made me do a double take. I did the pressing thing and couldn't see a penis but I couldn't see one clearly on rubble until last week. And rubble has slight swellings where his testicle will be too.

Am going to have another look in the morning. Me and ds had just cleaned them out earlier then had cuddles and Trevor is still a bit shy so I just popped him back as I didn't want to stress him out if he is a she and having babies.

Luckily I can split the cage really easily as it's a double one with a ramp. Then if Trevor is a tracey rubble will be parted from his nuts.

Poor rubble.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 06/06/2016 20:43

Rubble would need to be about 5 months and a good weight to get castrated , then you need 4-6 weeks (depending on what they advice) to go sterile.
We kept GP3 apart from his girls until he was 4 weeks post surgery.
GP6 was 2 weeks post surgery when we got him but we kept him a further 4 weeks apart (so he was six weeks total)

They are complex little mammals

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froubylou · 06/06/2016 21:01

Have just been and looked again. I would sway towards Trevor being a tracey and already being pregnant. S/he has a very rounded tummy but is still petite elsewhere compared to rubble who is a chunky monkey.

Definitely can't see a penis or testes and when I press it looks vulva ish if anything.

About 2 weeks ago there was a lot of scuffling and squeaking going on too so am wondering if she was in season then maybe? Poor little girl.

Am going to do some more googling of gp genitals and see if I can sex her properly.

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froubylou · 06/06/2016 21:27

I definitely think Trevor is a tracey. Fuck fuck fuck.

I don't quite know what to do. Would rubble share his cage with boy babies until I can rehome them? Or will I need another?

Trevor can have the top and rubble can move downstairs. Babies can stay with Trevor then at 3 weeks boys must be removed. Rubble will still be entire or possibly just recovering. Trevor and girl babies upstairs in the hutch.

I could get a little indoor cage and have boy babies inside until they are big enough to rehome. That would work. Ds would love it and I want an indoor cage anyway incase we have really bad weather or a poorly gp.

Poor Trevor. I feel really awful. She is only a baby herself really. And I am very against breeding any animals unless they are rare breeds. Hope she only has a couple. Would be happy to keep a girl and then have a 3 when rubble is cut.

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DownyEmerald · 09/06/2016 10:21

Nice to find this thread. New piggies - day 4. They are about 10 wks old, 2 girls. One sleek and soft, and one with adorable ginger and black markings and rosettes. We are all besotted, but are very new to small animals. DP and I had hamsters when young but they weren't a big part of our lives.

DD is desperate for a cuddle (she is 10), she is being really good at the morning routine, and they will come and feed in front of her and take food from her hand sometimes after school, so I think they are getting used to us, but there is a lot of freezing. We left them alone first day, starting talking to them day 2. Caught them and put them in ourdoor run yesterday and dd had a little stroke while I held them.

Reassuring to read others find them difficult to catch as I was taking this as a sign of their being totally terrified of us. Today I have them in an indoor pen and just doing housy stuff around, hoping it will help tame them, and then when dd comes home from school plan is for her to go in there with them (maybe with a book!), and they might get more used to her. Am I being too ambitious?

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FernieB · 09/06/2016 12:21

Sounds like a good plan. If your DD sits still and offers food, they'll come to see her and get used to her. It's useful to have a few old towels about to put on your lap when cuddling pigs as they can get overexcited and don't always warn you when they're about to peeBlush - I speak from experience.

Young pigs are incredibly fast and skittish. As they get older and more lardy, they'll be easier to catch. They also get used to routine. I transport mine from their cage to their run in a cat litter tray and they're used to it now and will (mostly) jump into their box themselves.

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EastMidsGPs · 09/06/2016 19:04

Congratulations on your new piggies.
If you establish a routine and talk to them whenever you are near they'll soon settle and get to know you.
Mine wait by their door for attention and wheel loudly to make sure they get it!
As everyone will tell you appeal to their stomachs. Most piggies will kill for parsley 😃
We grow it for ours as we get through so much. You are going to have so much fun seeing their personalities develop🐹🐹🐾🐾

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EastMidsGPs · 09/06/2016 19:06

Wheek loudlyHmm

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FernieB · 09/06/2016 20:04

I grow parsley too and this year have two tubs of spinach on the go, just for the pigsConfused

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