Rats

[BlueRaptor]

Today DP and I bought our first pet together - 2 lovely little rats!

We bought a cage at the shop that accommodated 6 rats, but only have our two in it as didn't want to overrun ourselves. They're two little girls, about 9 weeks old.

Just looking for any general advice from previous rat owners! We did research before to make sure rats were for us but first time owners and want to make sure we do everything right. They're currently snuggled up asleep in their cage and we've been advised not to touch them for 24 hours to allow for settling in.

[RattieOfCatan]

Boiled eggs are good bribes ;)

If there is a rat group near you it's always handy to join one. Our big boy was alone from November until 2 weeks ago, we thought he'd be okay and that he would die soon but he became more recluse and was barbering a lot, so we asked on the group about any lone males we could borrow to keep our boy company and we were offered a few. To be fair we had asked on the group back in November if they thought it would be fair to keep him alone and explained the situation and we were offered a few boys then so we knew that people would lens is a rat, but it does mean that he had a friend who we can then give back to his original owner once Howl dies. Which won't be long as we discovered a tumour on his testicle last night, poor boy!

Another option is to get another pair once one dies of you intend to keep rats beyond the two you have. That's how we started with the girls, as soon as we found out that one of our girls was going to die we booked in for a new pair, introduced them to the old pair and they had a month before the girl died and we ended up with three. Then we got another one later on. And then another and another...

[BlueRaptor]

Thanks for making me feel a bit less bad! Genuinely felt awful at the time, though I gave them a boiled egg after and think they may have forgiven me :)

No grey loss as of yet! She's getting big though, definitely growing quicker than the other one. I'd love another but don't think it's likely as DP has said no! I do worry though about how much they depend on each other (they snuggle to sleep!) and if anything were to happen to one how the other would cope!

[RattieOfCatan]

Has your grey and white one started to lose its grey yet? I have 8 again now so DH won't let me get any more until next spring, which is when I hope to get a roan :D and a marten, our breeder is hoping to start a marten line by the end of the year :D

[RattieOfCatan]

Oh I'm sorry, I laughed a little, i fully understand how you feel! Some rats hate water, let alone baths. Not one of mine will go near water if given a choice. My arms get shredded when I try to bathe them and the noise! You'd think I were murdering them.

With one of my boys, shortly after we got him we gave him a bath. He was a tiny runt and the big boys had been peeing all over him so he needed it. He didn't scream (the others did!) but he flooded porphyrin from his eyes. It's the only time I've had that happen and I felt awful for it. He forgave me and your girls will forgive you :)

[BlueRaptor]

Haven't posted here in a while but have come back to say I feel like the meanest rat mummy ever :(

Our girls are nice and settled now - they're very active and it's a very rare occurance for one of them to slow down enough to have a good stroke and cuddle - far more interested in exploring the living room.

We went and bought them some new activities and toys today as didn't want them to get too bored, and saw 'rat shampoo' previously they've had a little splash in the bath (very very very shallow warm water, just covers their paws) and thought that was fine. Bought the shampo and thought we'd give them a proper clean when cleaning them out earlier. Filled the bath every so slightly more than usual (still easily shallow enough to allow them to walk in it). Well, you would've thought I was murdering the poor girls. All going well until shampoo was on and needed rinsing off - the squeaks coming from them made me feel genuinely awful. They have never ever made those sounds :(

Safe to say rat shampo will not be coming out again, and I'm quite happy to just let them have a little run in clean warm water and be done with it!

[WonderingAspie]

One of our rats is identical to your brown one. It's funny as at first we thought she was going to be the more timid one but it didn't turn out that way, she is a jumper! She is forever climbing up the towel rail and jumping over into the sink, even when they tap leaks and makes her wet she doesn't care.

We also got ours from a pet shop (not PaH, a garden centre) but in future I would look for a breeder. Its hard though to see the little rats in tiny tanks in the pet shops, I just want to take them home. PaH have big runs for the rabbits and guinea pigs but the rats are in tiny tanks like the hamsters.

[RattieOfCatan]

Thanks! Ashi is my heart rat! He's a lovely and special boy :)

Oh they are soo beautiful! I love rowans, I so want one. I'm not sure if you know already but your grey and white one (the rowan) will completely lose the grey over time!

Glad to hear that they're getting braver :) Slowly but surely they'll get there :)

We have a rescue who we've had for nearly a year now, she still doesn't venture on the floor unless we put her there. Sofa and behind the bookcase on their cage shelf is fine and she tends to stay behind the bookshelf... but she still doesn't like the floor! Some rats just are a little skittish!

It's good that you've found a treat they like, once you've found their crack you can train them

[BlueRaptor]

Those videos are adorable rattie 😍

Our girls are slowly getting there. We've been trying hard with them and feel like we're getting somewhere. Roxy has continued to be the braver of the two, she will climb on my hand if I put it in the cage and scamper up and down my arm. She's also got brave enough to leave the cage and run a short distance across the floor to us and jumps on our arms and then back to the cage and repeats! Lexi hasn't quite got there get, she'll climb on our arms a little bit won't leave the cage on her own at all. We've also found they love cereal and bought one of those kids mini multi packs which we reward them with when they come to us etc.

(Picture is them eating shreddies in the shoe rack!)

[RattieOfCatan]

Oh they are so cute!

The chattering can be happy or nervous, 99% of the time it's a happy noise. We call it bruxing, there is also boggling which occasionally goes along with it, which is when their eyes move in their head. Very funny.

Three videos of my boy Ashi boggling on here I can't link to the individual videos apparently

Handle them as often as you can definitely. If you have a baggy jumper that you don't mind being chewed then put that on and throw them inside, rats love sitting in baggy jumpers :)

[BlueRaptor]

I come back with good news!!!

When DP got home tonight we tried again with the girls. Roxy (brown) was nervous again but settled when actually being held. Lexi (grey) was mad for a good fifteen minutes or so, lots of fear pooping (so stinky!) but started to settle. I had her on me for around an hour, she was letting me stroke her ears and rub her tummy, and then started the teeth chattering thing which from what I've read is a really good sign?! Then even managed to have both girls on me at the same time. Beyond thrilled with how tonight went and feeling much more confident with them :D

[BlueRaptor]

Thanks for the bumping :)

So today we have role reversal! The scared, timid girl continued hiding in her corner so I thought I better just pick her up and see what she does - she was fine! Sat in my jumper and had a clean, ran up and down me and was generally ok. Very fast but coped well (although did practically jump back in the cage!)

The confident and curious sister acts like she wants to come out, but when i finally managed to hold her was very skittish, ran like mad and would not settle at all. Will try again tonight. Going to try and offer them a few foodie bits to see if the bribery will work! Still too quick to get many good pictures but managed a couple.

[RattieOfCatan]

They are cute! Do you have a photo of them being held or anything? Just for size context!

I have six rats at the moment, 4 girls and two lone boys. We had 8 in November but have lost two since then, but they are addictive once you get started!

As Breastmilks says (I love your name!), being spayed reduces the chances of tumours. We've had two of our girls spayed. You need to get them done before 12 weeks (before their second in-season time starts roughly) for it to really have any affect and we've only had three from before that age. Our youngest we decided not to get spayed though. Do look into it, tumours are very common in rats but the choice whether to spay or not is a very personal one.

I hate to put a damper on it but most well known chain shops don't source their rodents from decent sources :( But I have had three pet shop rats (rescues) and they've been lovely once they've gotten used to us!

Call around vets and quiz them, some get a bit antsy about it but do your research as well about common ailments in rats and their treatment.

turd I love the head swaying It's to do with eye sight being bad, only our baby does it now but she's red eyed so her vision is worse for that. It's so funny though, they look like charmed snakes!


OP Keep putting your hand in the cage and letting them get used to you. I find wearing an old t-shirt for a few hours and then putting it in the cage helps them get used to your smell and calms them a bit. Also, bribe them. Find their crack and use it to your advantage! Our big boy and his brother loved marrowfat peas from a can when they were small, no other peas would do. We trained them to spin and stand using those before we had to stop (lack of time )

Yoggies are popular, milk bones for dogs, yoghurt, peanut butter (though be careful with it as they can choke! I water ours down or mix it with honey depending on who it's for and whether I've concealed Baytril in it!) I can't think of others right now!

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

Blue I've bumped four threads.

Have a cup of and some and indulge in the world of Rats

[BlueRaptor]

So today tried to see if the girls would like to come out for the first time!

The grey one is tempted and will sniff and follow my hand but not too keen to get on, she did once and then ran like crazy from one hand to another until I had to put her back as I was afraid I would drop her! She also peed and poo'd on me...

She's definitely curious though, and has had a few gentle nibbles on our fingers which I'm hoping is normal.

Her sister hid under the ledge she's been under for the whole time, and literally cowers if my hand goes near her. I didn't try anymore after that but curious as to what is best - I want her to get used to us but equally don't want to scare her!

[AreBags]

I had rats growing up- we once had 6 at once! They're lovely pets; like little dogs. They have their own personalities and can be really affectionate. I miss them!
I'll post properly in a bit; just reminiscing!

[OddSocksHighHeels]

Yeah it was Pets at Home! I had a black and white one like OP but she was a properly confident and risk-taking type - "yeah, course I can jump this distance" and then looking surprised that she was on the floor but her sister was pure black with no markings.

The last few I've had have been dumbos, gorgeous things! They've always seemed more inquisitive to me though that could just be the ones that I had!

People orientated has made me giggle though, I remember my first set of rats would always run to the bars and peer through anytime I got undressed it was a little bit weird!

[turdfairynomore]

oddsocks they are identical to our first two! So I probably assumed they came from the same place...pets at home?? They always seem to have those markings!! Only have one left at the minute!! Sad!! She came from a breeder and is a Dumbo. She was tiny but is growing fast!! The pet shop ones were very food and people orientated. You only had to cast a glance at the cage and they'd be begging! This one isn't quite so "in your face"!! She loves a snuggle though!! She would (& does!) curl up in the kangaroo pocket of my cosey red jammie fleece while I do my school work!!

[OddSocksHighHeels]

Scrambled eggs were always a favourite with my rats. They would come and lick my lips if I'd ever been eating them, the weird little things!

turd I love the hands too, so cute! I'm not generally much of a fan of most smaller pets (though they are all cute) but rats are totally different for me, they seem to have much more distinct personalities and are so intelligent.

blue I've always had sibling pairs and there's always been one more confident one and another slightly more cautious one. I saw your picture and assumed the grey one was the more confident as well!

I bought some from what I presume is the same place you got yours (before I knew about reputable breeders as well!) and they were fine - confident, happy, sociable girls so I'm sure yours will be fine. I do recommend proper breeders if you get any more in the future though.

Just wait until they're a little bit bigger and like sitting on your shoulder (tie your hair back if it's long!)

Did I mention I want rats again?

[turdfairynomore]

I love our pet rats. They are adorable!! I think it's their tiny hands!! They aren't paws!! They have hands like a tiny wizened wizard!! I teach p1 and bru g them into school-the kids love them! (Though my classroom asst isn't quite so fond!!) Mine love cornflakes!! They hold them individually and move their heard from side to side like a typewriter!!! Cute. Cute. Cute!!!

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

Blue there are lots of Rat Threads on here, spend a few happy hours browsing

You need to find yourself a vet who specialises in Small Rodents , rats like all the Small Furries can have quite specific health needs.

You might be able to get recommendations from the seller , or go online and look up local vets ' webpages, they often list their vets specialities.
You might never need a vet (hopefully) but if you do, it's good to have a name and have your new rats registered with them.

Enjoy them . (I don't keep rats, I like my rodents a bit dim and non agile)

[BlueRaptor]

Thanks everyone :) you guys are so helpful! As first time rat owners I was a bit nervous but you've all been so helpful :D looked at the YouTube videos as well, now I can't wait to teach my little ratties some simple tricks! I do feel slightly guilty as we did get them from a rather well know, national chain pet shop but hoping they've been bred nicely and will be good girls :)

The grey one (Lexi!) is definitely the more adventurous of the two - she's been climbing all over the place, had a good rummage around and is quite happy to come over to the bars and stick her nose through when I sit next to them. Her sister however is a little more nervous but it has only been a few hours so to be expected! Will keep you all up to date with how they settle :D

[Bananapanties]

I love rats :)