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Guinea-pig related hand-holding in urgent need here....

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 05/07/2013 14:05

My little black Abby boar (nearly 3yo)

Last night at evening cuddles his eyes were a bit dry crusty (he's got a fatty eye) this was both eyes.
He had a cuddle, supper, bit quiet.

This morning, about 6.30am I took them breakfast. He was sitting there. Usually he has his nose in the air, with his funny little hedgehog nose twitching.
He's exhibiting all the guinea-pig "I'm going downhill" signs.

He's out in the run now with GP1 to give them fresh air and grass if he wants. He's got the run shelters, shade, a bowl of Ribena diluted (I've never tried this but I thought "Try anything"

He's sitting straight (not stretched out or anything), sort of puffed out, but not starey fur.
I've bathed his eyes with boiled salt water and he had enough savvy to fight with me.
He's doing a sort of 'nodding' back and forth, but his breathing isn't raspy.
When i lifted him , he felt 'limp' not floppy but a CBA feeling.


So. This has all happened in the last 12 hours.
I phoned the vet. They have no GP vet until Sunday. I've booked him in .
I will get him inside later and give him Critical Care. He's eaten a bit of breakfast and had hay.
Then I need to look at is eyes again and decide if I can keep him SAFE until his appointment or find another vet.

I know GPs eyes are vunerable.
I know I have to get food (Critical Care) in him.
I know if I find A.N.Other vet they might not have GP experience.

But I know when a guinea pig goes, it goes. If he's going to 'go' I want it to be peaceful at home with his brother.Not taken miles to be examined and medicated.

Sad

Dilemma. Horns.

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Grunzlewheek · 24/08/2013 09:31

Sorry I got confused and only saw the first page of posts, so sorry for your loss.

Sadly I have found by the time you get to syringe feeding the poor thing has usually given up.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 20/08/2013 21:48

Hi Grunzlewheek - it's a food replacement (like Complan for herbivores I suppose). Vets sell it, or Amazon. (I need to get some more for my GP First Aid Box)
We bought the Fine Grind, mixed it with water to make a runny paste then used a tiny mustard spoon or plastic syringe to feed GP2.
When they get to "that" stage where they close down , it's just to try and get fluid and fibre into them.

I reckon by the time my GP2 died his organs had shut down. They need to eat pretty well constantly and he was picking but not seriously. (And it was boiling hot here)

In an emergency you can use pellets mashed (I've done this when my guineas have lost two teeth but they munched it down. They were hungry . but not dying like GP2)

Poor little soul got dug up a second time last weekend (bloody foxes) so we've re-inforced his burial plot (again).

We've got GP1 (original boar, my DDs pig) and my GP3 (who is nearly 12 weeks ).
I still miss GP2. He was a character and one of the sweetest guineas I've known.

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Grunzlewheek · 20/08/2013 19:12

Hope he was/is ok.

Can I just ask what is Critical Care ? Blush

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 30/07/2013 20:50

When I woke up this morning, DH told me the foxes had dug the guinea-pig up and he found the little bag half way down the garden.Shock

Luckily (for DH- I think GP2 was beyond caring) they hadn't got the bag open (it's a zip-up toiletries bag so very thick plastic with a good sturdy zip. Lined with a load of willow leaves).
So we were spared the trauma of picking bits up Sad

He was in a hole and had 2 heavy terracotta pots on top. They hadn't knocked them over, they'd dug UNDER it.
He's back under cover now with three plant pots, bricks and some clay piping to cover. The rain has made the ground soft.

This has just strengthened my intense dislike of foxes. I know as animals they don't know any different though. A meal is a meal to them.
And my main prority is the safe keeping of GP1 and GP3.

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Sleepingbunnies · 10/07/2013 22:39

Oh 70 iv just seen this. I'm so sorry for you xx

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dietcokeandwine · 09/07/2013 22:38

yy to the huge space left behind by small furries when they go Sad I have wept buckets over childhood guineas when they went to the bridge. I have photos of all of them in a little album...can still get a bit teary eyed thinking about my lovely abby ginger pig. Like you guineapiglet I am a huge fan of ginger pigs - current ginger is my third Smile

70 I agree that 2 is probably the magic number with boars...always tempting to get more guineas though, they are so lovely! We had a whole shedful of six pigs (2 x boar pairs and 1 x sow pair) at one point when I was growing up. The wheeking when the back door was opened could deafen the neighbourhood Grin Good luck with your clean out and I am sure GP1 will select a lovely companion, will look forward to hearing about them.

All good with ginger pig today. I am so grateful to our vet for (gently) insisting on anaesthetising for a proper check. I was reluctant, because of the risks, because he'd already been under anaesthesia a few weeks earlier, because of his weight loss, etc etc. Vet was confident he'd be fine (which he was) and the difference in ginger now his teeth have been sorted is amazing. Last night's bedtime veg had almost all been devoured by this morning (he'd been ignoring it before) and, today, his half of the run was peppered with plenty of nice healthy guinea poos (previously he'd barely produced any because he wasn't eating enough). You SFA brigade are probably the only ones who would appreciate just how happy that scattering of poos made me Grin

Sending a special cuddle and virtual parsley to GP1, 70 - I am sure you and DD are spoiling him rotten.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/07/2013 20:48

should've put a Grin after the idea of 2 baby boars otherwise it looks rude

Blush

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/07/2013 20:44

Oi guineapiglet lets not put ideas into DDs head with the idea of 2 baby boars.

I'm sooooooo on this wavelength too BTW .

"Oh there are 100000s of male pigs out there.
I could give a couple of babies a new start with my lovely boar."

BUT:

come winter when they are indoors they will no doubt be very judgey.

2 is the magic number with boars they say ignoring the fact that my outdoor Pigouse would hold more. Especially if they CBA to climb the ramp to the upper deck of the haybox Grin


One of my childhood sows was the last of 4 and she was a quiet little girl , just followed us round. The only 'trouble' we had was because she didn't chew the bars for attention her teeth got long and she had to have the odd vet trip to clip them.
When they were mobhanded they furiously chewed - though you could never ignore 4 hungry girl pigs Grin

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KRITIQ · 09/07/2013 20:42

What a lovely send off, and so apt for your wee boy! We planted a dwarf apple tree when Pig 6 of 8 went to the bridge. Celyn just loved apples (and this year, he should be giving us a good crop by the looks of it!)

I'm delighted you're going for "boar matching." That was how Pig 3 of 8 met pig 4 of 8 - sort of a rude rodent version of Blind Date, and he picked bachelor number 3.

I guess that's one silver lining in the whole pig succession planning process. Although each piggie carves a special place in your heart, there is always space in there for another with all the excitement that goes with it.

Good news about the Ginger Pig as well :)

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noyouhavehadawee · 09/07/2013 20:35

ah yes three is still a young thing, Charlie is very left alone too through the day but seems happy enough munching her way through the lawn, she is in good health but we all know how quick that can change. dd is keen to rescue but at her age i am tempted to just bring her in at winter and love her up alone Smile

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guineapiglet · 09/07/2013 20:31

Hi 70 just seeing how it is all going before I scare myself witless watching Luther!

I found sorting out the cages afterwards really, really upsetting, it just felt like such an awful, empty thing to do, with no smiling little faces looking out expectantly, particularly when we had to say goodbye to our last girl :(, so good luck with the grand clean out. You all have something to look forward to, I am excited for you, and GP1 will have a new friend ( or 2?) to look after - could you be tempted to get a young boar pair who could be overseen by GP1, I am sure it would work - !!

You are quite right, they leave a huge space. I still find myself saving bits of veg, picking dandelions and wishing I had some girls to look after.... so many people think we guinea folk are slightly obsessed - we know differently don't we!

:):)

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/07/2013 20:21

Hope GingerPig is up and about today dietcoke. I know with GPs the risk of anaesthesia isn't undertaken lightly.
Hopefully now he'll be able to enjoy the very important Guinea-Pig challenge of emptying the salad drawer.


There are phases on SFA with GPs going to the bridge. Hopefully we'll have a collective lull after Lola and Ninja .
For such little animals they leave a huge space behind.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/07/2013 18:21

Hi - GP1 is 3 so he really needs a cavy companion TBH.
When I've had GPs in the past we kept them as solo pigs after one went, they were indoors, lots of household noise.
I'm just aware that in the day, he's on his own Sad.
I'm going to a GP Rescue to find his new step-son.

Any GP that doesn't like parsley won't be allowed to live with me. That's un-natural and how will I bribe him if he doesn't inhale parsley .?

GP1 will be very very judgey when I clean out the Pighouse - I've changed the bedding but I need to scrub/steam it and remove all traces of GP to make it neutral. I'm not looking forward to it, but it needs to be done.
This next stage needs to go smoothly as possible.Soon to be GP3 will be a worried little thing coming to a new home and GP1 can be very overbearing in a Brian Blessed sort of way. Grin

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noyouhavehadawee · 09/07/2013 11:32

how old is your remaining pig 70? i don't know whether to get Charlie a friend being six she might not have long herself, where are these wonderful places you can take your pig to meet a pal? our local rspca has non at moment. we are in the north east Smile

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FernieB · 09/07/2013 09:17

I'm guessing he'll ask them all if they like parsley and whoever says 'no' can go home with him. Grin

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guineapiglet · 09/07/2013 08:58

70 I loved the image of your daughter's discussions with gp1 and him judgily weighing up the options. I would love to hear how he actually makes his choice!

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Evenstar · 09/07/2013 08:49

I was so sorry to hear about your piggie, I love Abbys, I rescued 2 from PreLoved and then had to buy another one as they are so gorgeous Blush All the best and hope GP1 makes a good choice x

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guineapiglet · 09/07/2013 07:13

Hi all.
Also glad to hear ginger pig is recovering and eating well, dietcoke, good news.

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FernieB · 08/07/2013 22:56

Dietcoke - glad to hear your little boy is doing better. He must be feeling happier after having his teeth sorted.

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FernieB · 08/07/2013 22:53

Glad he had a good send off - the willow leaves sound like a lovely touch.

Hope your boy chooses his new friend well. Remind him that a piggie pal is for life not just for a 2 minute cucumber wrestle, so he needs to think carefully about the qualities he wants (probably one who will give him first choice of all food/sleeping areas/cuddles)Wink

Good luck

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dietcokeandwine · 08/07/2013 22:48

Your DD sounds lovely, 70. Our pigs technically belong to our older two DSs but they're mine really...

Ginger pig got on well, thank you. Ended up going under anaesthetic, as vet wanted to rule out tooth issues and Ginger pig was not having any of this examining whilst awake malarkey, but it turns out vet was right-back teeth were a bit long and his tongue a bit swollen and one tooth had a sharp point that must have been causing him pain. All burred down now so hopefully that will help...he is certainly eating a bit more now so I am cautiously optimistic. Thank you for asking about him especially on such a sad day for you all.

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guineapiglet · 08/07/2013 22:41

Aah what a lovely send off, he wont be far away :)
Loved the willow it was special to him.
Felt v emotional reading the last sentence...nothing beats a croissant shaped cuddle :(
Heres to many more when GP3 lands, xxx

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 08/07/2013 22:17

GP2 was DS pig in name only. I'm afraid DS was a bit of a Jeremy Kyle show dad (ie not there or only there to get the Fathers Day chocolates but not to clean the cage or cuddle)

So he was mine really which is why it was neccesary fitting that GP2 was in my arms when he went.

We've decided new pig will belong to GP1 and be a family pig.
So if GP1 chooses a Devil in Knickers piglet then he'll only have himself to blame Grin

DD was showing GP1 a guinea magazine:
"Now we don't want a long haired. A smooth or an Abby.
And we don't want one with pink 'nads. Looks untidy"
GP1 was soberly taking this on board Wink

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 08/07/2013 22:11

How did GingerPig get on at his vet appointment ? dietcoke

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dietcokeandwine · 08/07/2013 21:57

Awww 70 it sounds as if GP2 had a lovely send off, bless his little heart. How are you and DS and DD? (am I right that GP2 was DS's pig?) It sounds as if GP1 is holding his own...the idea of a new baby boar playmate for him sounds lovely. I hope the introductions go well.

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