WWW's 10 year younger bootcamp, July thread III, all welcome

[WideWebWitch]

Hello everyone, old and new.

This is about feeling better about yourself and looking and feeling better etc. But mainly we chat and laugh quite a lot, which has all got to help towards happiness etc.

The rules (anyone can join):

• Sunscreen at all times - REALLY mean this now summer is here.

• No or little booze. Wine or Champagne or whatever at the weekend is allowed if you want it

• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can

• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day

• Apply body cream as often as possible

• Use hand cream

• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos

• Eat healthily

• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Some people are doing India and Neris's Idiot Proof Diet (Atkins, more or less), others are doing Slimy World, others are just being as healthy as possible.

Welcome everyone, have a good week.
Apologies for belated new thread.

[WideWebWitch]

NEW THREAD HERE

[moonshine]

Oi - definitely sounds like a job nearer is in order. I'm lucky that I work p/t and that I only have to commute just under 6 miles (although it can take more than half an hour in the mornings ) but spend my time tearing down the streets and being a more selfish driver than I would like in order to fit in hours plus being able to do the school run most days (and it does mean hardly any 'official' lunchtime).

Marina - lol at your 'helpful' dh and swimming cossie. But I haven't been training at the gym for nothing, you know . And yes, my dd is totally a daddy's girl (her cries of 'I want my daddy' when I have told her off drive me mad - suspect I will have to put up with it for many years to come yet).

WWW - at fil's money offer. Surely he would only mention it if he was serious? (and really consider sharing my Magnesium ok/epo experiment - it really is working so far for me).

I am mightily p*ed off at my ability to put on weight. Having done slow but sure weight loss for a few weeks now I have managed to put the whole sodding amount on in one week! Feel like giving up, but did the whole dusting myself down etc etc. I decided to sort some of my wardrobe out now and not wait until hell freezes over I've lost the weight. I was actually really shocked at how many clothes I have bought that I have never worn, but which I absolutely hate! I knew I was rubbish at shopping but I am obviously still in denial about certain things. Although I have been looking online at the new collections, I have put an embargo on myself until at least the weather gets colder. Still have nothing to wear though .

And it's no wine in the week again for me - back to work tomorrow but at least it brings some order into my eating habits again.

[tortoiseSHELL]

Hello all.

OI - sorry work is getting you down. I commuted for 3.5 years full time (but only 45 miles, so an hour each way) and it is a real PITA. It just adds so much on to the working day - you have to get up so much earlier, then at the end of the day when you're knackered you still have the journey to negotiate. I carried on P/time till ds2 was born (2006) and I couldn't face it any more after that. No way I could have done it full time after the kids were born - just not even 1% organised enough!

Www - cheesecake sounds yum! I remember reading, of all people, Gillian McKeith saying something like 'if one day you eat cake, it really doesn't matter all that much'. Which I think is true! That would be very exciting about the money for the house! Fingers/toes/everything crossed for you!

yesterday for me; not much walking (apart from round the mall), but did lug beds all over the house and do a massive amount of washing etc. Lots of water, food - a ham sandwich (2 pieces of bread, nice ham), a couple of raw carrots and a piece of homemade fruit cake . Also half a glass of white wine (dh's sis and her family were staying over).

Dh back tonight. I've got to try not to fall back into the 'large meals, late at night' because I really have found it easier not to eat too much late at night with him away.

[WideWebWitch]

I'll be interested to see what cholestorol levels show too Wong, I vaguely worry about it too. Although I am mostly eating good oils I am eating quite a bit of meat, would like to replace that with more fish really.

[WideWebWitch]

YANBU Saggars! Def not.

Wong, thank you, so you think the odd cheescake transgression is ok? Sorry to hear of hormonal fireworks, I know the feeling. I was wonderig about you yesterday and whether you're still sticking to the IPD WOE. V impressed that you still are. Not eating sugar and carbs has become normal for me with odd exceptions (meal at Boxwood, weekend away with dh, yesterday).

[Saggarmakersbottomknocker]

Oh Oi, sorry you had such a bad day yesterday and are having a bad time generally. Hope you can find a way of getting a better balance - long commutes must be hard to sustain over time. Missing the children isn't soppy, I remember it well. I've said before here I know how lucky we are with our work/home situation now.

www - hold on to those dreams Wouldn't that be fab?

Marina - I agree re daddy's girls - how to make you feel insignificant in two words...... 'Daddys Home!!'

I should be at the gym and am obviously not . I did trot slowly run yesterday and my legs ache like hell today. Now the holiday is done I need to find my motivatation No... it's gone lol!

Went to a barbie last night with some friends and came away feeling a bit disappointed. We regularly get together with a group of 4 or 5 couples all with children of similar age. We all parent differently and have had some laughs about it over the years but now the children are teens the attitude of one of the couples is getting a bit much, and has been for some if time truth be told. They are very free with the children and allow (even encourage) them to drink and swear to excess even in company. dh really dislikes it and I agree with him - it's not the sort of atmosphere I want for mine (it was only dd with us last night) but I'm sad we might have to distance ourselves. I'm not under any illusions that mine are angels but they know the limits when they are with other families.

[oi]

hello MsWong (tis foxinsocks here)

if you have no luck with the mirena, I am now trying yasmin which seems to be doing the trick

[suzywong]

hello WWW
hope you're wearing hair shirt over cheesecake NOT! That's the wonderful thing about this WOE, the intelligent person and literally pick and choose when the occasion arises and by intelligent I mean everyone as the pink book arms everyone with that intelligence.

I'm going OK, having a bit of a plateau I think but then have had first TMI WARNING* vaguely normal period since getting the mirena which was also first cycle without the aid of fluoxetine (ADs) so weren't there fireworks at our house this week? I'm surprised none of my family cut me head off, I was a tad prickly. So what I mean is I am not bitter about little weight loss at the moment.

However I do feel a tad 'roidy (I have underactive thryoid which is being treated but I have to be mindful of changes in certain aspects of my being) and I wonder if the extra b vitamins and 9 weeks withouth carbs are causing my 'roid to rebel. Getting my bloods checked this week. I will also get my cholosterol checked as although I personally can never get enough bacon , cheese or butter I should wonder what it is doing to my tubes.

Carry on everyone as you were

[oi]

4.5 hours is awful. As you well know, that's also when everything works well isn't it. I wind myself up about it too which is silly. Lots of people round here have that sort of commute and cope with it fine but I've always hated commuting (I think largely from working abroad for years where I lived about 5-10 minutes away from work) and have decided that I am ALLOWED to hate commuting if I want to and not be silly!

[WideWebWitch]

Ikwym about the one day, I did Friday at home last week although I usually break up the week with Weds at home and I really really had had enough by Thurs night. I do a 4.5 hr commute a day, it's shite.

[oi]

and at what dh's dad has offered - surely he would not have mentioned it if he wasn't having serious thoughts about it though?

[oi]

thanks www. I am supposed to have Friday at home (working) and when I do, everything seems much more manageable but this week was particularly busy and I was asked to come in on Friday and I've noticed that the weeks where I do have to go in on Friday, I find particularly tough. Also the job is enormously stressful at the moment which isn't helping. I wouldn't mind it HALF as much if it was round the corner but like you have said, it's the hours of commuting that are getting to me because actually, I can leave at a reasonable hour but because of it taking 80/90 mins to get back, it means I'm writing off 2.5/3 hours of every day to nothing.

I think I do need to look for something else that is closer.

Also we are having work done on the house and I think we're in the 4th week of sleeping on a mattress on the floor and today (the only day I get with dh), we have to spend most of our time moving all the furniture out of one room and into another so the flooring guy, who is arriving tomorrow morning, can take the old flooring up and put the new stuff down. I'm just never getting a proper break.

One more week of work and then I'm on leave so I'm going to count down the days from now I think!

[WideWebWitch]

Yesterday

bacon and eggs
bacon and avocado and spinach salad
burger
and then took ex dh and ex mil and children to a pizza restaurant and I managed to resist the garlic bread (that was tough) and the pizza (ditto) and the chips and bun on my plate but then dh ordered SMASHED HONEYCOMB MALTESER CHEESECAKE and I crumbled and ordered one too and omg it was delicious. Also shared a bottle of Chianti with dh and then came home and drank more wine and watched Bridget Jones's Diary, I'd forgotten how much fun that is.

Also, I am almost thinking I shouldn't type this but dh's dad said on the phone to dh that he was thinking of giving us £200k to buy a house. Which would change our lives as I could stop commuting, take any old local job (or none at all, we could buy somewhere v nice round here for £350-400 and have a small mortgage which would be do able on dh's salary alone). I cannot believe it'll happen or that he'll really do it So I must just assume it won#t happen but I feel faint at how wonderful it would be if it did. Which it probably won't so I will now banish the thought from my mind, having shared it with you lot!

Had a lovely evening, feeling v happy. Took my vitamins and apart from cheesecake (which was LARGE transgression) stuck to diet. Plus period started so thank goodness the bloating should go down a bit at last. And my mood will improve!

[WideWebWitch]

Oh Oi, how sad, I so feel for you and I completely know the feeling, there was a time when I would leave both children sleeping and dd would be asleep when I got back and ds practically asleep and so I felt I hadn't seen them. Both working ft oth + long commute is tough, it really is. Is there any prospect of an end to it for you? Can't remember if you're perm or contract but could you:

• ask for one day a week from home
• ask for compressed hours, so do a ft week in 4 days, still get a ft salary but have one day a week off
• take a break soon
• ask to reduce your hours but do some work on the commute
• get something with less commuting/nearer home?

Ignore me if none of those are practical. I do sympathise. we regularly turn down doing anything at the weekend as it is just bliss to not leave the house. Poor you.

On the wedding,I think you should send your friend a heartfelt note explaining how you felt and how you weren't coping and if she's a good friend she'll understand.

I do hope you're managing to recharge your batteries this weekend.

[oi]

hello everyone

yes, I should start by saying that I am particularly bad at responding to everyone's posts and I don't expect a response to mine at all. But I do catch up eventually!

I am feeling a bit more chilled having had a massive cry today. Had a very hectic week at work and am very tired. Had agreed to go to a friend's wedding today (on my own - wouldn't have known anyone there, dh at work with the car so would have had to bus it there) but then found out that it started at lunch time and lasted till midnight ish and suddenly just felt I couldn't offload the children on the nanny AGAIN (for the 6th day in a row) and just burst into tears .

I know it sounds soppy but I do miss the children and with the commute and me being busy, I only saw them for an hour this week. So I sent a very apologetic message to my friend and now feel very bad but ultimately quite relieved about the whole thing. Actually Dumbledoresgirl suggested I should have just gone to the ceremony and then made my apologies which is EXACTLY what I should have done but I wasn't thinking straight and got flustered (quite unlike me!) so I spent the afternoon cuddling the kids and watching the cricket and chilling and now feel much better though obviously, will have to deal with friend on her return from honeymoon!

in the end, I called dh and we have decided that we will have to turn down no kids weddings on the weekend because we see so little of the children with both of us working FT.

shall read thread now

[Cammelia]

Girls eh Marina

They're all Daddy's girls

[WideWebWitch]

Those are random dvds Marina for sure! and lol at your dd in the shop!

I have had my roots done this morning and they look much better for it. And now we're planning all the things we're doing to do this week. Starting with not cooking tonight and taking dh, children, ex dh and ex mil out for a pizza when they get here. I will drool over the carbs but resist.

Had spinach with bacon, avocado, anchovies, quail eggs, cucumber for lunch.

[tortoiseSHELL]

marina, your dd sounds lovely! And not at all loony . Dd and her friends are much the same.

My dd excelled herself at her first sleepover by very solemnly telling the host parents that 'you are both very fat - you remind me of the lady who runs our school' (the deputy head). I was mortified. And they're not!

[Marina]

Don't get your hopes up www - ds "chose" me Flight of the Conchords, and dd Smiley's People.
So, two very different and great TV series but rather off the beaten track IYSWIM
Hope ds gets back OK and glad to hear my 5 year old is not the only Reception Loon on this thread

[bundle]

www happy homecoming!
marina - glad you had good non compliant birthday. dd is obviously just testing you, the little minx. is it any comfort to know my dd2 was awake at 10pm last night, wailing and being generaly not what you'd want a 5 yr old to be?

[WideWebWitch]

lol at us not biting unless you're made of chocolate! Glad you had a nice birthday Marina. Do tell on the interesting dvds!

Had lovely organic beefburgers and spinach last night but then because of necking wine wanted to eat more so had cheese and salami.

But on the plus side fell asleep so early on the sofa in front of a film that dd waking me at 6am was fine. Ds finally coming back today, we've missed him, it's been 2 weeks.

Happy weekend everyone.

[Marina]

Evening all! Thanks for birthday wishes, we had a lovely if not very bootcamp compliant evening out and I am now the proud owner of some interesting choices of DVD and aq flagon of Jo Malone bath oil
Put on 1.5lb, boo hiss - but not surprising given that crisps and cake have snuck back into diet this past fortnight
Moonshine, I guarantee that I can get from a changing room to the deep end of a pool quicker than you can. I did this so fast at Centerparcs I did not realise dh had thoughtfully extended the shoulderstraps on my voluminous bathing dress to dry it the previous day. Dd doggypaddles over to me, grabs on to shoulderstrap to be towed round rapids...you can guess the rest.
Sounds like the hols were good Saggars - and, sadly, it's so rare for muggers to be actually apprehended, that this is good news indeed. Hope ds is OK now.
I too concur with www that it's lovely to always read posts here but almost impossible to reply to all points raised - and definitely not expected that your own bons mots will be refererenced thereafter
I've heard great things of Bio Oil bundy and it smells so yum you could always drink it I suppose. Ds had monster insect bites earlier this summer too, but being a tiny child his scars lasted about a week.
I actually started this post a good four hours ago and have not checked before finally sending.
Wishing all a happy weekend. I am on Day Two of being at home with My Cherubs (topics of conversation with dd today included the fact that she felt she was quite unusual because she only wanted one parent, and that parent was daddy. If she was not generally such a sunny and cheerful little person, we would be seriously spooked by now . I adopted a no-doubt unwise stance of informing her that in that case I would leave her tethered to the 2 for £6 tee-shirt stand until Mr Perfect could retrieve her around 7pm. Ds was snurking away meanwhile.
AIBU to think my daughter is a loon?
Hope stomachs regroup soon (I recommend a scalding chicken tikka bhuna, mine has recovered after this kill-or-cure approach) and mothers children are not wilting under test overdrive XXX
Meet-up...moonshine, how can we plot our Galumph for Life if we have never met each other? You know you want to! We don't bite, unless you are 70% cacao solides that is

[tortoiseSHELL]

Hello all!

Saggar - that sounds good - how is your ds now?

Cam - hope you feel better soon!

Bundle - hooray for your gymnastic neighbour!

Batters - that sounds a good thing to try with dds - mine drives me crazy and she is only 4! (until Monday). But learning to walk away would be a good thing as otherwise I end up screaming at her.

yoyo - glad the lump isn't any bigger. Hope you have a good holiday in France!

I had a nice day today - we had a 'class meet up' at the park, and they spent a good 2 hours in the paddling pool there in swimming costumes (despite the rain). Dh still away, and I have to say, although I hate him being away, I eat much less when he isn't here because I don't bother with cooking for just me. So today, I've hardly eaten anything, just a slice of bread (really nice bread with seeds in, yum), some ham with that and some strawberries. And I won't bother with dinner tonight, because I will put on a DVD of something like Harry Potter, and then go to bed early!

[bundle]

lol @ cava cornerstone www

usually the case chez moi too

cept it's red tonight