How do you get into a special school

[Skylar123]

As all the special schools admissions are based on children having statements , is that the only way you can get a child a place at a special school. So if you can't get a statement for your child they stay in regular mainstream and cope as best they can on SA+.
If they are not coping, Is it possible to get a recommendation from someone such as the school or autism advisory ,if so how does this work without statement?

[Skylar123]

Ok thanks when Ds was dx private he said mainstream fine with specific support . That was a year ago nearly.
He isn't going to school regularly now and things are starting to manifest themselves. I will wait see what communications disorder clinic say when nhs dx

[lougle]

SEN law is geared towards inclusion, and Mainstream is the default provision for children with SEN. Sometimes a professional will hint that SS may suit a child, or may even suggest it as an option, but they have to be aware that the rights of a child to a mainstream education (in all but a very few circumstances) is law.

What happened for us, is that all professionals said 'MS with 1:1/MS with support' but the Statementing Officer wrote the statement in such a way that only a special school could meet the provision. If we had wanted her to go to MS, we'd have had to let her withdraw the proposed statement and reissue it with MS in mind.

[autumnsmum]

I was td by an ed psych at the meeting where dd2 was diagnosec

[Skylar123]

Who tells you your dc may need special school?

[Skylar123]

Received

[Skylar123]

Thanks for all the useful replies. I have applied for SA and it was revived by LA yesterday.

[lougle]

Yes, that may change the landscape somewhat, Keep.

[KOKOagainandagain]

Lougle - you need to add free (special) schools into your equation.

Suffolk 1 year ago had ss for MLD and mainstream. Now they have about 100 HFA places via free schools. DC do not need a statement to get access - they can be being assessed with the free ss named in part 4. LA is placing DC as their first choice when m/s is not working.

[lougle]

snowybun the likelihood is that most special schools will be 'full'. If a child isn't progressing well in MS but is safe and happy, a LA will have more stalling time to work out the best plan. If a child is deteriorating or the school is unable to keep them/others safe, they sometimes have to 'make' room at a SS because it's essential.

[autumnsmum]

My dd2 was offered a special school nursery place before she started school

[AliceinWinterWonderland]

snowybun we asked for a change at his annual review. The LA said no initially, we scheduled the appeal to tribunal, and at the last minute, LA agreed. DS was attending MS on statement at the time.

[OneInEight]

In our experience our ds's have had to fail at two mainstream schools before a special school was conceded as well as having a statement. Well we hope they have conceded for ds2 - panel meeting after half-term.

[Owllady]

Lougle most probably knows more of the legalities
But at your statement review there should someone there from the local authority and the suitability of the placement should be discussed. It's part of the review process

[mymatemax]

some SS will have assessment places and will support obtaining a statement if they can meet the childs needs.

[snowybun]

So to ask a slightly different question if the child has a statement and currently in mainstream but is struggling to cope in mainstream and staff are struggling to cope how easy is the process to change. I am having a tour of our local sen school after half term

[lougle]

Go ahead Owllady

The truth is that the Code is still the Code, even if some LAs/schools don't follow it.

[SallyBear]

My DS had a statement. He needed to move from MS to SS. His case was put to a SN Panel at LA. It costs about £35k a year per child to educate at my son's SS.

[Owllady]

I think you will find my sentence said IME lougle, so whether it's true, legal etc. It is still my experience, so actually it is strictly true
Sorry to be pedantic :o

[lougle]

"The only way ime is that you are statements and a mainstream environment can no longer meet your child's needs."

That's not strictly true either, although LA's may like to present it that way.

The SEN CoP says:
"8:62 Where an LEA proposes to issue a statement or amend part 4 of an existing statement they must name the maintained school – mainstream or special – that is preferred by the parents, providing that:
-the school is suitable for the child’s age, ability and aptitude and the special
educational needs set out in part 2 of the statement
-the child’s attendance is not incompatible with the efficient education of other children in the school, and
-the placement is an efficient use of the LEA’s resources."

In other words, the onus is on the LA to justify that the special school meets one of the exception criteria for that child, not on the parent to justify that it is necessary.

[Owllady]

I think my dd started without a statement too come to of it, she was undergoing assessment though with a view to definite statementing

[lougle]

The SENCoP says that all children in a special school must have a statement. It doesn't say that all children considering special school must have a statement, nor does it say that only statemented children can be considered for special school.

IF your child needs special school, they need special school. If the LA agrees, they must draw up a statement which names that special school.

DD1 went from MS preschool (without statement but on EYA+) to special school. She was statemented with special school in mind from the SEN Officer.

[Owllady]

The only way ime is that you are statements and a mainstream environment can no longer meet your child's needs. At my child's ss NONE of the often could cope in a mainstream school. They do however have satellite classes under the ss govern which operate as units in mainstream schools, which seems to work well for some children too. I suppose it depends where you live though as to what is available and how it us accessed. I have lived in three counties and they have all been very different

[AliceinWinterWonderland]

He does have a statement though. Definitely apply for a statement if your child is not coping in MS.

[AliceinWinterWonderland]

Livesforbedtime That's not true. My DS1 was at the top of his class, but could not cope with the environment in school. He is now in his second year at SS and loves it. The LA did fight us, saying that because he was so bright, it would be too limiting to his academics, but the SS insisted they could meet his needs as they do a lot of individualised learning. And they do very well with him.

[NewBlueCoat]

Yes, a statement is always needed. In some cases (mostly independent schools) a school will accept a child while helping parents to gain a statement.

For those of you being told that there is no suitable school due to academic ability - have you looked at independent SN schools? They often wil have a wider academic range, or there will be a school aimed at higher achieving children. LAs don't often mention them, as they are more expensive, but they exist. And you child is entitled to a suitable education - if mainstream is too much sensory-wise, and LA SS don't suit due to ability, then the LA is duty bound o find a school which does suit, not just shrug their shoulders and say 'no idea'