So tired am willing to sell ds (2 tomorrow) to lowest bidder!

[MrsBigD]

Don't know what to do anymore besides begging GP for sleeping potion, either for ds or rest of family so we don't hear him...

He's always been a bad sleeper, but got better after we reduced milk at night. However, now he's a nightmare again, probably because I was away for a few nights?

Anyhow, he just starts screaming and there's nothing wrong with him because when we go in he's happy as. Tried letting him cry (scream) for 5 minutes at a time last night with the effect that he got hot & bothered and threw up at which point of course he had his way and came out of his bed as he needed to be changed.

It's definitely an attention thing as he's happy as if I finally fall asleep with him in his bed due to total exhaustion...

Bad side-effect, he wakes up his older sister (4.5) and then of course she's whacked for the day. Wasn't that bad during holidays but she's starting reception tomorrow so dreading moody zombie attacks...

At the moment I'm ready for straight jacket and mallett!

[MrsBigD]

I would have phrased that much less polite including words like manipulative, calculating etc

[shatteredmumsrus]

Clever little things arent they!

[MrsBigD]

I'm sure he will be. DD used to cling onto me for dear life only to happily trodd away and play as soon as I was out of ear shot

[shatteredmumsrus]

My son cries everytime i drop him off too. He has to be peeled off me. They say he is fine after 5 minutes.Sure yours is too.

[MrsBigD]

What am I doing instead of CC?... hmmm, despairing just like you. ATM the only thing that keeps him asleep is snuggling up with him. Not ideal, but desperate times and all that... don't think I'll be able to 'crack' him before I go away for a week, and seing that both kids sleeping patterns will be all over the place whilst I'm away I probably grin and bear until I'm back and then try again. Hoping that all day nursery will wear ds out so he'll be near comatouse. Poor sod cried his eyes out today when I dropped him at nursery. Wonder how long he kept it up. Was a bit surprised as yesterday he was happy as larry. Then again he probably realised it's going to be a regular thing

[shatteredmumsrus]

Hes a brilliant eater. Their Dad took them the pub whiloe I had a sleep yesterday at 5. He ate all his spag bol and an ice cream. I tried CC last night too, its not for us. He woke at 1 and i went in at 1.40 lay him back down said ssshhhhh, bed. He flipped back up started bouncing and screaching louder than before. I went in at 2.15 and gave him just 3oz and then again at 5.20. Better than Monday night anyway. He would scream all night if I let him, its not right for that long.No idea what to do now, that was my final straw....
What are you doing instead of CC?

[MrsBigD]

oh dear hadn't realised you've been doing the reduced milk for such a long time! Does he eat a good dinner?

CC not working for us as ds gets so wound up he throws up

[shatteredmumsrus]

I have been doing the milk reduction thing since July!!!I have a nap when he does for about an hour, 12 til 1 usually. Might try CC again...

[MrsBigD]

shatteredmumsrus... oh no! the fall doesn't sound good. As for the milk reduction not working... it took us 4 nights from hell and back and there and back again for him to settle and we didn't get any sleep, so don't give up after just one or two attempts.

Taking the month off is probably a good idea. Have you got anybody who can look after your 'little monster' during the day so you can have a lie down? You sound like you need it more than me!

It will get better... eventually.

[shatteredmumsrus]

Birmingham?
If you do could you pop round and take over?
Anyway last night was the worst night ever. I didnt get 1 minutes sleep. I fell down the stairs at 4am thru tiredness. Nevertheless I went to work and asked my boss for a month off. She was great and agreed, probably due to the fact I cried and had bloodshot eyes and bruised legs from my fall. I feel like a mess. Never been so tired in my life. The milk reduction thing isnt working, he just wakes up more often. Has anyone got any other ideas.
Shall I completely ignore him no matter how much or how long he screams for?
Any other ideas, quick before bedtime please???
Im DESPERATE!!!!

[MrsBigD]

LOL wouldn't it be too strange if you were neighbours?

[Redlorry75]

Shatteredmum, where do you live, as I type I have my dining room door open and can hear a screaming child and very tired mummy!

[shatteredmumsrus]

Im gonna try the 3oz tonight then. As i type this I am listening to him scream. I have trieds to put him down twice and had such a bad night last night I am waiting to go to bed myself

[MrsBigD]

shatteredmumsrus... re milk reduction... had a couple of rough nights. He used to get 8oz whenever he woke, so reduced to 4oz first, then after a few days to 3oz but never went below that. Had him to waking only once or twice but then I went away...

[shatteredmumsrus]

MrsBigD - I sympathise I really do. I couldnt even put my contace lens in today because my eyes are so tired. DS is 2 next week and has NEVER slept thru the night.I have tried everything, CC etc. The only thing that will get him back off again is milk. I am currently taking him to a child psycologis regarding his sleep. He has put him on a routine of reducing his milk too. He was on 2x 7oz milk a night on a good night. All was going well til we reached the 2oz stage and it is worse than ever.Its like we have gone back to square 1.He throws the bottle back at me now as he realises there is hardly anything in it.He goes to bed fine with his toy in his cot but is up between 12 and 1, then 3, then 5, then Im downstairs at 6 watching cbeebies!!! He has a nap in the day, but I wake him up after an hour.He is a happy and healthly boy.You said you reduced your childs milk iintake, how did you do it???

[MrsBigD]

currently he's still up for grabs though

[MrsBigD]

years of practice, tea and diet coke LOL dd was a terrible sleeper too and only started sort of sleeping through aged 3 and a bit.

And no I don't work a full day anymore, just 9-1530, however as a mum work's never doneis it LOL

[Redlorry75]

OMG, please tell me you dont work a full day???
I am off to work for 5 hours this afternoon, in an office which sees temoeratures of 88 degress - so can be sure of nodding off around 3pm -

How do you cope? - sorry, not making you feel any better, am I?

[MrsBigD]

oh boy that sounds like a rather useless pizza place eh? I can beat your 04.55 today it's been up 0213 and not really been able to get back to sleep... woohay... and soon it's off to work. Hoping with ds starting nursery he'll be so whacked he'll sleep...

[Redlorry75]

Okay so 6 is not early, but I have actually been awake since 4.55 - tossing and turning. Not to mention a distrubed night anyway - although I dont get disturbed by DD - it's more my body against my brain!

Cancelled credit card as ordered takeaway pizza last night and the idiot on the phone asked for card number - then read it out, expirey, then read it out, security no. then read it out. I know the way the shop is set and other customers could have heard. Pizza also gave me heartburn - so the whole transaction has been nothing but pain in proverbial from start to finish!

[MrsBigD]

you're calling 6am bl*dy early I would consider that 'bl*dy luxury lie-in'. I do get some sleep at weekends because dh and I take turns Sat/Sun.

Cancelling credit cards? Lost them or trying not to spend?

Have seen some of the threads re star charts, pasta jars etc. but he doesn't quite grasp the principle yet. the only kind of 'punishment' that gets through to his thick skull (the literal meaning he's a born head butter not the 'stupid') is removing him from 'offending item' or a quick little flick on nappy padded bottom.

[Redlorry75]

Aww - do you have anyone who could have DS for a couple of hours first a foremost so you could sleep?

There are a few threads on here about coping with loss of sleep - in particular sticker charts. I use a magnet - which is taken away if naughty behaviour, including constant waking up rest of house starts. But DD is nearly 3 and the magnet is a ladybird - she loves ladybirds.

Does DS have an afternoon nap etc - perhaps it;s time to swap it for quiet time instead, so he's awake but not being noisy or boisterous.

You have my sympathy, I am up this bl**dy early as I am 6mn PG and cannot sleep as I worry about everything. Have just cancelled credit cards and phoned hubby at work to tell him. DD is tucked up in bed fast asleep for anouth 30 mins- 1 hour.

Good luck