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Hackers - MN is Anti-Dads. Really??

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MaillotRojoPan · 27/08/2015 19:41

From a male poster usually known as Pan.

Seeing all of the hacking activity is being reasoned as complaining that MN is anti-dads, I'd mailed HQ to offer my support, involving any quote, dialogue etc that could be a counter-presentation to that reasoning and rhetoric, outside of MN as a sort of PR offensive, and thought any other LT dad on MN would offer the same. I'd offered this a long term dad MNer ( off and on since July 2006 – so this was prior to GF and mouldies for example) with a dd who is now 15 yo. I'd come across MN after googling a particular dd-centred issue as I didn't expect her mother to 'know' all of the answers esp as we were both first time parents.

HQ Press Team mailed me asking to commence a thread about dads-on-MN, my experiences etc. This wasn't what I had in mind, BUT..it's HQ's perogative to ask this, hence the thread. 'Site' seemed the best place as it's about the hacking thing. Sooo...

MN is not 'anti-dad' . MN is a collective of individual posters who have varied opinions on lots of things. So 'MN' is pro- or anti- ; toilet brushes: trips abroad to particular countries: benefit claimants: parking in reserved car parking spaces: pornography: currently if Jeremy Corbyn would make a good Labour leader: and basically anything else anyone has an opinion on. One dips in, or out, as one goes. There is no HQ-led 'line', outside of ultimately being civil to each other, as in real life.

As above, MN is not anti-dads . I don't need all of my digits on one hand to count all of the anti-dad posts I have seen in my time here. As parents ( and some posters are not parents currently) our shared objective is the betterment of children , ours and other people's. Being 'anti-dads' as a generalisation would compromise that significantly.

Given that MN-lived experience, what the hackers (dad-sec?) appear to found the reasoning with rather, is on an 'anti-male' ethos of the site. Or a frustration that in their individual or collective experience outside of MN, they didn't 'get what they want'. So oddly, MN becomes the target, rather than the authorities with which they are frustrated. So two solutions are presented:

  1. Dad-sec etc.(and you are probably reading this..).IF your angst is in some way with a poor outcome with authorities outside of MN (eg Children's Services, Family Courts) take that issue up with them, not MN. MN have no authority there. By DDOS attacks you are trying to limit the best services available to the betterment of our children and their 'care-givers' i.e. mothers and fathers who have nothing at all to do with you. That in itself qualifies you as acting like a 'bad parent'.


  1. IF you are male and your angst is with an 'anti-male' ethos of MN, take a good look at yourself, what automatic advantages you just by being male, and where you are posting. You won't fail to notice that just about each time an 'anti-male' generalisation is made, it's shut down by a female poster. Appreciate that with good grace.


Of course I'd invite anyone to support or disagree with any of this OP, but especially the male and/or dad posters who have benefited from their time on MN.
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MaillotRojoPan · 28/08/2015 21:06

Yes that one Gurl - and something happened today with a female member of my team, and that really did put that thread into a sharp focus re harassment. I;d intervened and trouble will come of it, but that's okay and mild scepticism about this thread really doesn't mean much, in perspective.

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LikeIcan · 28/08/2015 21:08

Blimey. It's Superman, Jesus, & Jeremy Corbyn rolled into one.

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redbinneo · 28/08/2015 21:12

I thought the attack was down to the well known social commentator "20somethingmumuk".

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MaillotRojoPan · 28/08/2015 21:15

Like - i'll take any two of those three. not really

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LikeIcan · 28/08/2015 21:17
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CoteDAzur · 28/08/2015 22:36

I appreciate your effort, Pan, and don't think it's patronising in the least Flowers

I don't think MN is anti-dad, either, but I can imagine DadSec thinking so if he was abusive to a wife or girlfriend who got the courage to leave with her kids thanks to fellow MNers.

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MaillotRojoPan · 28/08/2015 23:17

thanks Cote. IF the attack was/is specific to MN being so anti-dad/male (of which the suggestion is very strong) then it's an opportunity for us to state the rejection of that notion, esp. as our children are not being best served by it.

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