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Research: September-borns do better at GCSE?

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stubiff · 07/08/2019 09:20

Following on from my offer here

TeenTimesTwo asked

Do children born in September perform better at GCSE? Does the most recent evidence still suggest it?

Caveats/Disclaimers:
We are talking averagely, not every child born in September.
The graph is from FFT (see below).
There may be other reports/data you want to look at.
If you know of any other relevant reports then please shout.
Don't shoot the messenger!


Data Source IFS
"...large differences in educational attainment between children born at the start and end of the academic year in England."
"differences are largest soon after children start school and decrease as they get older."
"relative to children born in September, children born in August are 6.4% less likely to achieve five GCSEs or equivalents at grades A*–C."
"and around 2% less likely to go to university at age 18 or 19"
"and around 2.3% less likely to attend a high-status Russell Group institution if they do"
"even a one-month difference in age has an effect"
"those born in January are 2.8% less likely to achieve five A*–C grades in GCSE"
"those born in August are 5.4% more likely to be labelled as having mild special educational needs at age 11"

Data Source FFT
Data Source FFT Education Datalab
"August-born pupils close the gap as they get older but remain behind September-born peers by the end of KS4."
"in terms of raw attainment (Attainment 8), they (Aug-born) remain 0.3 grades per subject behind (Sep-born)"

Data Source Durham University
"Probably the simplest solution in the short term is to routinely age-standardise all assessment results."
"no valid reason why the younger children in each year group should have a worse chance in education because of a bureaucratically convenient decision outside their control."

Research: September-borns do better at GCSE?
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brilliotic · 19/08/2019 01:39

I meant to add, regarding what could be done better:

Early school experiences should be positive for all children, not predominantly (statistically) for the oldest in year.

The actual starting school age need not be a problem, as long as what school is, is tailored to the age group. As the developmental differences between 4 and 5 year olds are larger than between 6 and 7 year olds, it will be harder to create a school environment and curriculum that suits all children in the cohort when they are younger.
But 5yos won't be 'held back' by an environment that suits 4yos, whereas 4yos will suffer by being put into an environment that has been designed for 5yos.

As I believe that the long-term birth month effects are due to a large extent to internalised beliefs (I'm not good at maths/school is hard/everybody else can behave as expected but for me it is a struggle/...) deriving from early school experiences, the way to fix it would be to firmly design school around the needs of the youngest end of the cohort.
For the first few years this would mean that some of the older children in the cohorts would 'learn less' than they would strictly be capable of. Some children can deal with more formal school environments and benefit from being pushed to learn a lot at a young age. But the vast majority wouldn't be shortchanged by e.g. having a more play-based environment for longer. Nor would they suffer from not being pushed to learn something (e.g. to read) at age 5 - they might be capable of learning at age 5, but it won't harm them if they don't learn until age 6.

And in the long term, the older children too would benefit. The curriculum and environment being tailored towards the youngest wouldn't make much difference anymore by the time they're 8 or 9, and the class as a whole wouldn't be held back (as it is too often) by the fact that a significant proportion of their classmates has already given up on school/internalised the belief that they 'can't do this'/ taken on class clown roles with according behaviour.

In short, make the early years a positive experience for all children (by tailoring them to the youngest in the cohort) and everyone will profit and learn more in the long term.

Another idea is presented by Switzerland, where they have introduced a 4-year 'school introduction stage' starting around age 4.5 (for the young-in-year) and going to about age 9.5 (for the old-in-year), covering what used to be two years of Kindergarten and the first two years of primary school. Within this stage any child can, if they have the inclination to, learn rather a lot in terms of maths and reading/writing, but nobody is pushed to if they aren't ready yet. In the first year, very few children will be doing much in terms of the three R's (but nobody will be stopped/held back/deprived of resources), by the fourth year, nearly every child will be (and if they aren't, there will be investigations and extra support).

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brilliotic · 19/08/2019 00:55

Just read this whole thread with interest. The data is quite stark.

I have a late August DS still at primary who is achieving very well academically, which in turn positively affects his confidence, self-image, and aspirations.

Emotionally and socially, KS1 and especially YR were very tough, but things have improved lately (now going into Y5). He seems rather mature for his age, which might have to do with him being surrounded by older children (but never having been given the role of class baby/class clown) and being able to learn from that. Also expectations for behaviour have always been tailored to older children, and he has been lucky enough to have been able to rise to those expectations.
I suspect though that the differences might become more tangible again as puberty approaches, and the children's brains go through new developmental stages.

I would speculate that the main reason for the massive differences at KS1 are developmental differences at starting school, where the 1 year difference is a whole quarter of the 4yo's life, along with YR being 'designed' for 5yos and Y1 for 6yos, and KS1 SATS measuring expected learning outcomes at age 7 despite 1/6 of the children who take them not being 7 yet.
I would then speculate that the largest part of the persisting differences up to GCSE level are a direct effect of a) the children's early experiences of school, and b) their early attainment.
b: With all the ways teacher expectations influence their teaching, and the targets set based on earlier attainments, statistically a child's KS1 attainment can become 'prophetic'.
a: A child who has internalised the view that they are 'not as clever' as their 'peers' or just find that school doesn't suit them, might be affected by this for life.
Both a and b would hold for social and emotional aptitude, and behaviour, as well.

With regards to sports, DS is very sporty but only very recently has begun to be acknowledged for this (causing some upset as his achievements caused some autumn born boys who were accustomed to having places in teams to suddenly lose out). Again, I believe this to be a temporary reprieve from age about 8.5 (his peers all being 9+) until statistically his peers start getting their puberty testosterone boosts and him having to wait another year or so - he won't be catching that one up anymore.

I know this doesn't count as sports in England, but DS plays chess competitively and again there appear to be strong effects. If he had been born a couple of weeks later, he'd be being 'noticed' right now, which would be opening up opportunities (such as coaching and training). But there are also advantages. Many competitions go by school year group and him being young in his year rather than old in the year below means that he gets to play against stronger opponents and therefore gain valuable experience; also the very young age groups obviously see many as yet ungraded and low graded children, so it is harder to achieve a high grade oneself (grades are determined by one's opponents' grades and one's results against them). The grades are used for international selections, and international youth competitions go by calendar year not school year, so Autumn borns are doubly disadvantaged - they are the youngest hoping to be selected, but 'at home' they usually compete against even younger and on average low or ungraded opponents, making it really hard to achieve the necessary grades (whilst being much more likely to bring home trophies and confidence boosts from any one particular local competition that goes by school year).

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Piggywaspushed · 10/08/2019 10:34

love, I know that is what is recommended in cricket but it certainly doesn't happened in junior county set ups and , once they graduate to hard ball(about age 12) the size/physique etc thing kicks right back in. At the public schools. they really nurture their 'talent' and this again tends to focus on the fastest /strongest/most confident. There are definitely big problems in junior cricket : Jimmy Anderson (who did, of course eventually make it) writes quite eloquently on being overlooked when he was a youngster because he was smaller.

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LoveGrowsWhere · 10/08/2019 09:46

Some things I have learned about sport in UK which may be of use to other summer born DC.
Cricket up to age 10/11 in a match every child has to rotate round every position, bowl the same number of balls & bat two overs. There will be one or two who shine but it is to no-ones advantage to focus only on improving them.
Tennis has move up dates every six months so less wide age gaps within the age group you play.
Hockey is odd. Club age groups run in alignment with school years. But if you move up a level to county they run on calendar year...so a Dec child will be youngest in that squad.

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Helix1244 · 10/08/2019 00:10

Other countries- are the same youngest do worst. (Relative still with diff months being youngest)
But i think possibly some the gap isnt as much. Due to starting later than 4.
4 is too young to learn for many. They literally are not ready to write.

I have not yet had a teacher say about birth month. But dc is doing ok (not to their potential though).
I think the fact adhd/asd etc dyslexia will be diagnosed by a particular age have a negative affect on summer ones as they are further up the ladder.
I expect many countries allow delay/deferral and resitting years.
The Cambridge data said it was a particular year group so not those pushed ahead etc.
At uni i was the only summer birthday among friends (uk ones).
Other countries have different cut offs to weather/ seasons eg Scotland Feb/Mar but the youngest still do worse so it is not weather/brain growth. Although apparently summer dc are on average taller...
I think it is a trickle that adds up to a flood, all downwards. Because the only 'good' thing for Aug would be 'not being bored' and parents saving childcare costs


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More skills before school read/write/maths/swim/cycle/monkey bars/draw
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Some schools combine yr groups so youngest could be by 24+ months whereas oldest experience being oldest by 24m or friendships with youngest /oldest of year above.

Also with friendships if say you are in bottom set your friends may ne there too or you friends may be more likely to be other SB so easier distracted etc.

Whereas say older/younger sibs although oldest ususlly do better the youbgest may have gained things like fittness or language etc from having an older sib so helps them with other things at school.

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Witchend · 09/08/2019 23:17

I don't think it's a simple as just to do with the age at GCSEs etc.

One statistic someone's written is the Oxbridge winter borns. I went to Oxford (not a winter born!) and there are far more September/October/November borns among my friends. However a good proportion of them are 1 or 2 years ahead. So actually were younger than the summer borns in their year. if I discount those who were working ahead, the number of winter borns is almost exactly what you'd expect proportionally.

According to our shoe shop, children's feet grow more in the Spring. So maybe there's actually a premium time of year to be pregnant to develop the academic side? Would be interesting to look at countries with different cut offs. I think any study that does look at this in the UK should be looking also at other countries to see what similarities and differences there are.


But one thing that I think does effect summer born, and especially summer born boys, is low expectation. I've a summer boy and I think every teacher through primary, and some at secondary have said some version of "he's doing very well, struggling with concentration, but he's a summer born boy, he'll grow into it."
I've seen children who behave similarly to him but are winter born or girls and they have had intervention from a young age. Don't get me wrong, he's improved a lot, but his concentration level is still below average.

So what I'm saying here is that by saying "we expect less of the summer boys" we're making it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Because less is expected, help isn't given in the same way to improve, and they're acting down to their expectations.


You couldn't do age standardisation for GCSEs. What about the person who takes it early or late? But also it would continue with the expectations, and you would find universities taking that into consideration. "You see they're summer born, so their grade 5 isn't worth the same as the winter born's grade 5".
Then teaching "we don't need to teach that to the summer born boys, because they can get a 9 without the top question..."

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Piggywaspushed · 09/08/2019 22:08

Oh yeah. duh.

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ProggyMat · 09/08/2019 21:56

piggy I read it as noblegiraffe's DS is August born and did not defer a year

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Benjispruce · 09/08/2019 21:32

Purely anecdotal: I work in primary education. We have 3 prem children (3 months and they are much behind their peers. We weren’t aware they were prem until investigations into their difficulties ability caused their parents to divulge that information.

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Benjispruce · 09/08/2019 21:28

My September born was a 10 A* student.Her father , also a September baby, got 3 Cs.

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Piggywaspushed · 09/08/2019 21:26

Bit to play devil's advocate is he top of his class academically, or is he simply the oldest?? Who knows.

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inmyfeelings · 09/08/2019 21:22

I'm a September born child and got 10A* in the 2000 and it's only because I spent around 10 hours a day revising which I enjoyed

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ProggyMat · 09/08/2019 19:00

i I think it just goes to show that academic readiness is not the only thing to consider about starting school. Physical and emotional readiness need to be taken into account where possible as well
Absolutely!
That said, Noble commented that her son is 'top of his class academically and to make him wait out a year would have been a waste of his time'
My DD was taught in a small primary with mixed year classes. In Yr1, 3 and 5 she was on 'top table' with those in the academic year above.
Was she 'academically, physically and emotionally ready to leave for secondary at, for her, the end of year 5 with her 'peers'? Most definetly yes but her waiting out a year was year 6.
She will sit her GCSE's next year.

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SlowMoFuckingToes · 09/08/2019 18:25

Apparently autumn babies are twice as likely to be elected to parliament. There was an article I read ages ago about them being far more likely to be CEOs. At the time of the article I don't think there was a Fortune 500 ceo born past April. It's a HUGE difference.

www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/11/01/autumn-winter-babies-far-likely-elected-parliament/amp/

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YesThisIsMe · 09/08/2019 17:06

I have a child at an ultra selective private secondary which does not adjust for birth date in its entrance tests. According to the PTA list which includes birthdays, 65 out of 100 children in the year were born September - February.

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OutwiththeOutCrowd · 09/08/2019 16:40

This is from a few years ago but quite interesting. Month of birth affects chance of getting into Oxbridge.

Just an anecdote - my DS goes to a selective school and he tells me that birthdays are skewed towards the earlier months of the academic year.

The situation is very much as Malcolm Gladwell reported in the sporting domain.

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tulippa · 09/08/2019 16:23

@Arewedone I think it just goes to show that academic readiness is not the only thing to consider about starting school. Physical and emotional readiness need to be taken into account where possible as well. DS was really tired for the whole of reception - it would have been horrendous if he'd had to start a year earlier. His (older by six weeks) July born cousins are due to start secondary school next month - they seem so young and I'm so glad DS has another year to go.

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catndogslife · 09/08/2019 14:17

I am not in a grammar area so no idea about how this can be affected by prematurity. What is clear is that it's dcs with very low birth-weights that are affected i.e. those born with weights under 1kg (some studies suggest under 1.5 kg) rather than all premature dcs. However being premature and having an August birthday may be more significant.
It also looks as if other traumas in early childhood also affect GCSEs as well. This is the most recent article I can find www.telegraph.co.uk/education/secondaryeducation/11051173/How-much-do-our-genes-dictate-our-GCSE-results.html

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Helix1244 · 09/08/2019 13:33

Interesting to think about prem and adjusting scores. Wonder if with grammar you can say dc is prem and get extra adjustment.

It is not surprising independents take more winter due to the tests which for summer ones would around 3.5yo vs 4.4yo

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SansaSnark · 09/08/2019 12:29

I do think that the labeling of children as "bright" or "more able" or the reverse can have a long term impact on how children see themselves, and can become a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. There is also some research to suggest that teachers treat classes differently when they are told they are more/less able- and the students respond to this. So if a child goes through primary school labeled as being "less able", then that could have all sorts of impacts on them.

I agree that for individual children, there are a huge range of factors that will affect their performance, but it is interesting to see that birth month still appears to have an impact even in Year 11.

When I first started school, our reception classes were actually organised by age- so Autumn term births in one class, Spring term births in another, and Summer term births in another class. We stayed in these classes for reception and Y1, and were mixed around in Y2 (and then mixed around again going into Y3 as it was a separate junior school). I can see how narrowing the ages within each class could be beneficial, but it could also cause some problems with low vs high expectations! Also, obviously, this is only possible in a larger primary school!

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catndogslife · 09/08/2019 11:58

I think the data could be skewed by the fact that so many more dcs are born in September /October than in some other months.
See www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/articles/howpopularisyourbirthday/2015-12-18
However it very difficult for parents to plan effectively. Know a few who were planning dcs with an early September birthday who were born a few days early and ended up being born in August instead. On the other hand know a few families who chose to have dcs in august because it would be less child-care if dcs went to school just after their 4th birthday.
My dd is Autumn born but an age-corrected score for being born then would be really annoying as she was 3 months premature so should have been born in the Spring term iyswim.

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Arewedone · 09/08/2019 08:46

@tulippa we had same experience with Dd. Early September born was already reading so went into the year ahead. Academically was no problem for her as she had the advantage of early literacy however poor small motor skills and being tall for her age she had poor coordination & missed out on sports. Upon returning to UK and repeating Y7 as the oldest in her year we have seen the advantage.

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LoveGrowsWhere · 09/08/2019 08:12

DS is end of Aug born. In KS1 it was extremely obvious. By end of KS2 he'd caught up academically but not in confidence.

DS in yr10 brought home a sheet showing the gcse grades achieved last year by children with a similar MIDYIS score at age 11 (which was adjusted for DOB). It is just for loose aspirational guidance. What struck me was that for almost all subjects the results were heavily distributed but evenly across 3 grades. Not always the same three grades. I would love to know if / how DOB impacts that distribution. eg. If 30% scored a 5, 30% scored a 6, 30% scored a 7 & 10% scored 1-4 & 8-9, are the 7s more likely to be autumn born?

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tulippa · 09/08/2019 06:59

I'm wondering, as a parent of an autumnal DD, if other DP's of similar DC would have liked the opportunity for their DC to have been able to start their education an academic year earlier?

Absolutely not. DS is very early September born. I think he would have coped academically if he went into the year above but I'm so glad he's had the chance to thrive instead. Although he's tall, he was slow with motor skills so would have really struggled with sports - as it is he's about average for his year.

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SlowMoFuckingToes · 09/08/2019 03:57

@FlumePlume I don't think it's something they'd ever publish as they publish so little about their selection process. When we were touring several selective independent schools they all made a point that they took "some summer borne". A few were willing to give numbers. One claimed no less than 30% from March onward. One claimed 25%. You only have to look at the birthday boards in any selective Indy reception room to notice most of the class is born before January. My son was the youngest in his class. He's born in Feb!

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