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How many GCSEs does your child's school allow them to take?

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ArcherQueen · 01/10/2016 22:13

My son's non-selective independent school is restricting all pupils to 9 GCSEs. My son is very bright and while I do not have an issue with the number, it does mean he has to give up French, which is is really good at and is likely to get a top grade in. I don't want to list all the subjects he wants to take but French will have to go as it is the only one he is definitely not going to take at A'level. He has a pretty good idea what he wants to do but wants to keep his options open in case he changes his plans.My son takes his options at the end of this academic year (9) and is gutted at the prospect of not studying French after that. I know the GCSEs are going to be more rigorous and "harder" than in recent years but I also know he is more than capable of this type of study. I certainly don't think adding an extra one is necessarily going to adversely affect his grades.Basically his only option would be to take it outside of school which quite frankly is not going to appeal to him and I don't blame him.

I don't really want a debate on whether 9 is enough, that may or may not be the case for a very bright child, but what I would like to know from other parents is: does your child's secondary school restrict the number of GCSEs in the same way? Our school insists that all schools do this but I cannot find any information on websites. I guess with the changes they are all still deciding what to do.I feel the school may be doing this for their own convenience, i.e. timetabling, as it meets the needs of the majority of their students, and there are not enough outliers to justify having to accomodate them. I would really like to know if other schools are doing the same.

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Heifer · 03/10/2016 22:17

DDs school take 9 but can do an extra one as a fast track in their own time (lunch time/after school) Only a few subjects offered this way - We think DD may take Spanish this way.

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drummersmum · 03/10/2016 19:36

tiggytape I had to check what Progress 8 means! For those as clueless as me:
www.theguardian.com/education/2016/aug/23/progress-8-gcse-results-pupils-results-schools

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tiggytape · 03/10/2016 18:54

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BailiskStare · 03/10/2016 18:03

Talkin - what do you mean by early entry ? GCSE ?

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Ta1kinpeece · 03/10/2016 16:37

How can schools do early entry under the new system ?

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goodbyestranger · 03/10/2016 16:26

Basilisk I didn't register a single snark! I'll have to read more carefully!

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 03/10/2016 16:04

DS1 has to take 11 as RE is compulsory and they do triple science. I've agreed that out of his 4 optional subjects he can take one subject more for fun (Sports Studies) as I think 10 traditional GCSEs are plenty. He may take an additional GCSE out of school in DH's language as we are a bilingual household.
Moderately selective Independent

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BailiskStare · 03/10/2016 15:27

goodbye fair point and I think my comment in retrospect looked a little snarky for which I apologise. I suppose I come at this from only having one DC and they went down the humanities track where extra reading etc can expand to fit the time available. I had not thought about, in all honesty , those who self teach a subject. Nor do I naturally think about the DC who might do 4 A levels because they are doing Maths and further Maths, and other sciences (or indeed other subjects) because mine hasn't. Fingers before brain. Sorry.

Re GCSE . DS learned 11 subjects , it is a slightly weird system they have because they only get put into public exams for 9 (or 10 if you have a natural ability at a language) I would support doing wider learning at 14 / 15 / 16 because otherwise how would you know what you like and are good at, and indeed my DS's least favourite GCSE by a long chalk, he has actually (grudgingly) admitted it gave him a way into thinking about something now he is at university.

Previous post not my finest hour.

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Laniakea · 03/10/2016 13:05

dd's do 9 plus 1 enrichment - either another GCSE or BTEC or EPQ.

They are all sat in one go in year 11 and the ks4 course is two years - years 10 & 11. Before the changes to GCSEs they did 10 + 1 but again all sat in year 11.

This is a comp but pretty much identical to what dh & I did many years ago in grammar schools. DD is doing 9 academic GCSEs - maths/eng/triple sci/language/2x humanities - & drama BTEC for enrichment ... I'm happy with that, it seems like a good system :)

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Witchend · 03/10/2016 12:57

Trout ours is a huge comprehensive. 10 form entry so that's not their reason.
I was moaning at dh (governor) and he says that when they do surveys among the parents it's very popular-however mostly from the side of the parents whose dc don't do as well as they'd hoped in early exams and it motivates/frightens them into working harder.

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troutsprout · 03/10/2016 12:39

Agree Witchend Dd's comp seem to be sticking with the early entry and gazillions of GCSEs Hmm
I'd rather she was doing less . Less stress and better results maybe? Also don't like that once they've done the GCSE, they drop the subject.
She's in year 9 and doing music GCSE exam this year but will do another 3 exams next year and then a further 9 in yr 11 (although I'm not 100% sure they still do R.E GCSE)
She is mature.. but she'd be even more mature in 3 years time wouldn't she!
I think at dd's school it's about time tabling and being able to offer subjects. It's a tiny comp and yrs9/10/11 GCSE groups are taught together .

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myfavouritecolourispurple · 03/10/2016 11:15

I went to a grammar school and did 8 GCSEs - compulsory Maths, English x 2, one language and one science plus three options. Those who were top set Maths did Maths O level a year early (we were the first year to do GCSEs) and then Additional Maths the following year.

I don't actually know exactly what my Y9 son will be doing with GCSEs because I think, from what some local parents have said, that the info on the website is out of date. However, at the moment is says that everyone does English x 2, Maths, RE and either three separate sciences or the double science. After that, everyone does 3 options so you would end up doing 9 or 10 depending on whether you are top set science or not.

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Witchend · 03/10/2016 11:00

I think 9/10 is plenty. Better to get 9 good grades than 12 less good ones.

Dd1's school is a bog standard comprehensive and she did 2 in year 9, 2 in year 10 and will do another 10 in year 11 Shock

It's too much, and I don't think they're mature enough to cope with the stress in year 9-she wasn't although she's good at exams and generally considered to be extremely mature for her age.

It does mean that she's gone into year 11 with already 4 A/A* results, which is good, but it doesn't take the pressure off when you've still got 10 to do.

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a7mints · 03/10/2016 08:56

Standard number is 10( maths + 2 eng +French + 3 science + 3 options)

Top 50% do further maths and top set do further maths +stats. Latin is available as a twilight. Grammar school

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goodbyestranger · 03/10/2016 08:29

A close friend of DS3's took that number of A2s Basilisk and in his case I think it did stretch his frankly astounding brain but only because he taught himself classical languages which the school doesn't offer, and did that on top of four A2s at school. To someone like me, who gave up latin before GCSE, that would stretch any brain, whether frankly astounding or not. In usual cases though I completely agree: three is sufficient. I think the argument is a little different at the GCSE stage where breadth is part of the young person's education and has a value all of its own, but that's not the case at A2 where depth is far more important.

Anyhow this boy didn't turn down his Oxford offer as it happens, so no-one else was denied a place on that account. He is currently, thanks to his latin skills, the happy resident of a five room set all to himself on the front quad of an astonishingly beautiful college. He is very happy as well.

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BailiskStare · 02/10/2016 22:13

This is "old school" i.e. pre the new GCSEs , but then DS took iGCSEs. Took nine examined , 2 compulsory but not examined.

Others will have better information but certainly 2 years ago 9 examination results was enough for some very good universities.

One point I would make re it is to stretch their frankly astounding brains - this may be true in some cases. In DS's case he started 4 A levels (actually Pre U ) and dropped one which he was competent but not "all that" at, - the way his brain was stretched was by learning more deeply not more widely. If 6th form teachers tell me this is rubbish - I will believe that.

I suspect cambridge will live after the boy Talkin knows turned them down, equally I can imagine he is very very happy elsewhere.

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ErrolTheDragon · 02/10/2016 21:58

We seem to be straying OT but if you only put one choice on the UCAS form its only £12 not £24 apparently. Maybe if you're absolutely sure of nailing your favourite its not too clever to put more?Grin

Back in the day my GS only allowed us to take 8 O levels and that was a ridiculously restrictive number.

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goodbyestranger · 02/10/2016 21:41

Visceral is over the top Talkin since I've already used the word tedious, which is hardly extreme. The boy didn't need to choose an insurance, just to clarify. Some people only get one offer after all.

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Ta1kinpeece · 02/10/2016 21:32

goodbye
Not sure why you are so visceral about a lad choosing one uni over the other?
He got his predicted grades.
He was sitting on two stellar offers (as one does with UCAS - main and reserve)
One of the unis assumed he would pick them, he didn't.

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goodbyestranger · 02/10/2016 21:26

Not sure what you mean about two choices. You can apply to one option only and you don't need an insurance. What a git.

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NancyJoan · 02/10/2016 21:16

9 is the norm.

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Ta1kinpeece · 02/10/2016 21:12

because he had to have two choices on his UCAS
Cambridge tells lots of people to take a hike after all
and he's really happy where he is

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goodbyestranger · 02/10/2016 21:05

Why did he bother to apply? The lad sounds tedious. Same grades as one of mine but mine has the added merit of not being a jumped up time waster.

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Ta1kinpeece · 02/10/2016 20:44

errol
If a child is able and not stressed by learning then why limit them?
Exactly, and the reason why some of the kids at the 6th form do 7 AS and 6 A2 - it is to stretch their frankly astounding brains
Cambridge must be gutted that the lad who got 6 x A* at A2 told them to take a hike Wink

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Ta1kinpeece · 02/10/2016 20:39

nickname
both my kids are pretty academic so were in the top sets and got solid A/A* GCSEs
the school is a comp so different sets do different permutations
from 11 GCSE to 3 GCSE depending on what is right for them
as comps are the antithesis of "one size fits all"i

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