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When teachers give grades for Maths English, etc

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IntotheNittyGritty · 16/01/2011 19:40

When you give a child a grade for Maths, for example, how do you assess this.
Do you grade each part of every section of maths then average out, or do you just focus on add/sub, mult/div etc.

I have read on forums that children might be given a Level 5 in year 6, but when they get to high school the teacher assesses them and says they are still really a Level 4

So my question is, which part of maths is used to give the scores?

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IntotheNittyGritty · 16/01/2011 19:41

Also same question for English!

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mnistooaddictive · 16/01/2011 20:17

Officially there are weightings we are meant to use at secondary. I cant remember them but it is something like 40% number 20% algebra, 20% shape 20% statistics. To be honest we rarely do this except for end of year 9 as it takes an amazingly long time and rarely gives you another other than what you already know!

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emilielondon · 16/01/2011 21:47

For English, MOST but not all teachers/schools use something called APP (Assessing Pupil Progress). There is a grid for reading, one for writing and some schools have one for S&L. Throughout the year, these grids are completed, and then a formula gives the overall level e.g 5H, 5L etc for that area (reading/writing/s&L). We report three grades to reflect this but most schools I know average it out e.g. a 6b or 6S overall.

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PixieOnaLeaf · 16/01/2011 21:57

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IntotheNittyGritty · 17/01/2011 00:24

Its the overall mark I am more interested in how they get and whether they just assessed it based on add/sub mult/div but the above answer does make more sense. It just seems that not much focus is given to algebra, shape and statistics, so 20% for each is quite high.

So if they are getting a Level 5 mark, presumably this means they have just creeped over the marker rather than solid?

thanks for your input.

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kickassangel · 17/01/2011 00:39

although the NC levels are meant to be one seamless continuum, they're not.

i used to do moderation both within my school, and comparing all our intake primaries with county levels etc.

the levels at primary are marked much less harshly, and there is the 'training' which gets them through SATs but not consistent every day.


how each school gets to a level could vary, but emilie gives a good description.

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bigTillyMint · 17/01/2011 10:44

Yes to all above!

It seems to be a bit like children scoring say a 3B in their KS1 SATs at the end of Y2 and then being assessed as a 2A in Y3. Children often seem to drop back a bit as they move into a new Key Stage.

This seems to be very noticeable in Y7 because many schools focus heavily on getting the children to jump through hoops to score well in the Y6 SAT's because of the League Tables thing. Then when they get to secondary school, it becomes apparent that they weren't actually working at that level, they just "managed" it for the test.

There definitely was a formula for calculating for Y6 maths, but I think most schools just do the averaged out overall level now.

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PixieOnaLeaf · 17/01/2011 11:33

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