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Please come and help a decision regarding big move to Devon.

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Karatedoormat · 08/01/2016 22:05

Hi. thanks for reading. I need another perspective!

Dh and I have friends and family in north Devon. We love it and visit often (not just for tourism iykyim). I have 2 children 6&8.

Their Dad sees them alternate weekends and would be very unhappy with such a large move (3 hours in the car).


Our reasons for wanting to go are as follows:

Children are young enough to adapt to new school
We are a very outdoorsy family - so much for us to do there.
Our wider family don't require us in any practical way at present (may do in the future)
We could have a slightly bigger property and be mortgage free Shock
We're not having any more children so dynamics should be stable
We are both in healthcare and have very stressful (but high earning) jobs.
If we don't have a mortgage we can work more flexibly and at a lower grade - maybe even part time.

I can't see the downsides apart from their dad. Do I really have to consider him in all this?

I think twice a month the dcs would cope with the journey on a Friday night after school then return when they're asleep on the Sunday.


Right any points of view very gratefully received Smile

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SolsburyHell · 09/01/2016 18:01

Taunton is not great, well not the bits I know anyway.

Is your exh reasonable, could you sound him out. He may be ok with it if you sold it in the right way.

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m0therofdragons · 09/01/2016 18:06

Villages round Taunton are nice and there are lovely parts and parts to avoid - like with anywhere.

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WhereTheFuckIsWonderWoman · 09/01/2016 19:31

Have you considered East Devon? The Axminster area is lovely.

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Karatedoormat · 09/01/2016 20:10

Thanks all. We're going exploring, but I think I take on board journey consideration. Google maps say one thing but reality can be different. I did live in Devon without children so the journeys were very different.

I don't think we're ruling anything out yet, but actually coming more east does sugar the pill slightly.

X unlikely to be ok with anything I do. He's fine as long as everything is going ok and he gets his way but can be an utter arise if he feels slighted in any way.

He hates me having child free time and grumbles about the fact he doesn't get the 'luxury'. Probably shouldn't have moved in with a girl with a 2yo then Hmm

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Shockers · 09/01/2016 22:58

Gosh... I'd be asking him whether he'd rather be child free permanently, if they're such an inconvenience. That should make him sit up a bit!

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Karatedoormat · 09/01/2016 23:30

Meh we've done all that. I don't really have the energy to fight him anymore. We've had a tricky time of it.

But - He's their dad. He has a right to a relationship with them, and then with him. He pays maintenance, so I have to view it that the does uphold his end of the deal.

What I struggle with is the influence it has on me, my dh and the Dc for the 12 other days he's not in their life.

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Karatedoormat · 09/01/2016 23:32

I know he is actually in their life on those other 12 days but y'know; no tantrums, toenail cutting or homework. His contact is just 4 bloody days a month. That's nothing.

I'm cross for them. I think he's sold out.

We've held back on moving as he did see them weekly but he's changed The arrangements to once a fortnight. Sigh.

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GinBunny · 09/01/2016 23:45

Living in Devon is awesome when you are younger, your kids will love it. I moved there as a stroppy teen and hated it, it was the wrong time but I would move back in a heartbeat now if I could. But yy to pp about the travel time. I don't know where you need to get to but the A303 can be just as bad as the M5. We always went that route and it could take 7 hours in peak time to get to London.
I think you should do it though, you have to live your life as it sounds like XH is.

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skysky69 · 12/01/2016 08:37

I am not sure whether anyone has mentioned this as I haven't read through the whole thread but if you both have parental responsibility for the children (I.e his name is on their birth certificates when they were born, married etc), then you are not legally allowed to just up and move them and move their schooling etc. He could make an application to the Court for a prohibited steps order to prevent you from doing so. You should be seeking his permission really or, you should be making an application to the court to move them without his permission, you would need to provide things like schooling reports of where you propose to send them, suggestions of how contact will work i.e scheduled face time/Skype etc.

Just didn't want you to be oblivious to the fact that he could throw his rattle out big time. If the children were teenagers it would be easier as their "wishes and feelings" can be taken into consideration but as they are still littlies it is considered by a court that the decisions made should be by both parents - they no longer refer to it as "residence orders" and the like as that would insinuate one parent has a stronger imbalance of power in decision making than the other which isn't the case even if he does only see them fortnightly.

Flowers

It is my dream to move to the country one day too. I would like a little house with a couple of acres so I could have some donkeys :-)

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Karatedoormat · 12/01/2016 12:53

Thank you. My ds overheard the conversation so I did text X to let him know.

He wasn't best pleased (understandable).

Everything has changed at home in last 24hours though (don't want to out myself). So I think it'll remain a dream for now.

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Adarajames · 12/01/2016 19:57

Traffic heading down that way has a habit of changing from 3 hrs in the winter to 5-8 hr trips during summer / holiday periods Angry'I used to do similar , alth only as far as Somerset , and that was bad enough!

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Karatedoormat · 12/01/2016 20:23

Yes. It's definitely worse since I lived there (15 odd years ago). Train services from Exeter were always good though.

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Karatedoormat · 25/01/2016 20:45

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Karatedoormat · 25/01/2016 20:55

Right. I can't imagine you're all hanging on for the next instalment, but I always like a thread update.

We went and explored. We looked at new builds, and areas. Poked around a bit and have done some dry run journeys.

We're not moving.

We're not comfortable with the Dc doing such a long journey every fortnight. For us, it's too far. The logistics and sheer relentlessness is too much (for us/the dcs). They're fine at travelling but then one falls asleep and one whines, they get bor, hungry/thirsty etc Hmm. They might get used to it, but I think we'd all come to dread it.

Having been on some Facebook groups of areas were looking at, I think there are some of the same issues that are on our fb... 'To the person who let their dog poo outside the school...' There might not be any more sense of community/belonging that we were coveting.

We also really like new builds. This might make us akin to hitler. Unwanted incomers moving into unwanted developments. I can ride it out in our own town, but moving somewhere where we knew we'd be unwelcome might be more than we'd cope with.

The schools we have here are good, and the children are settled. They have already been unsettled when their dad left. I don't want to be responsible for more uncessary upheaval.

So there it is! We're staying put Smile

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eyebrowse · 25/01/2016 21:12

May be he could have them longer in the holidays as a compromise for less visits during term time. This would mean they would have more weekends available. If you are moving to the country side much better to go at this age than when they are approaching teenage years

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Karatedoormat · 25/01/2016 21:19

Thanks eye guess you haven't seen my last post Grin.

He wouldn't have them longer in holidays.

Tbh the kids genuinely miss him as it is. He's dropped contact and it's not going well. I don't like jollying them along and trying to champion him (whole other thread!)

I think he's an absolute sell out, and that's another reason for not moving. I actually don't want contact to be made any harder than it already is.

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Adarajames · 26/01/2016 02:14

It's is always nice to have an update, thanks Smile sounds like you've made best decision for you all for now; doesn't mean you can't revisit the idea in the future. Just make sure you check environment agency flood maps before you move anywhere in the west country!
Hope things settle with the kids and the contact, not nice for them I'm sure

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ChristineDePisan · 26/01/2016 02:29

Try Dorset - ticks many of the boxes for the move, but (assuming you are in the rat race of the SE) is much closer to XH

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Karatedoormat · 26/01/2016 16:28

Well we did 'look' at Dorset, Google and right move as it definitely is closer and ticks boxes but many of the issues would still be the same. Mainly uprooting the kids - and we aren't really sure what for. I mean that we don't think the upheaval would be worth it.

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