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My mum is, in fact, a complete tart.

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MyMumIsASlapper · 22/06/2009 08:44

Please don't trip trap me, this is genuine and i am a namechanging regular. i cannot even think about this under my regular guise.

after 30 years of marriage my parents are separating because of my mother's infidelities.

i have had my suspicions for the last 15 years tbh but fervently hoped i was wrong, plus with the morals and values i was brought up with it seemed inconceivable.

but i was not wrong, it has all come out.

and my mum expects everybody to just carry on as normal. she is in the process of moving out, but does not seem to have told anyone, friends/relations etc.

dad is doing v well and being v prgamatic and sensible.

my siblings are refusing to speak to my mother because of her behaviour, the short version being she has had several "affairs" with so-called family friends, both married and unmarried.

i am the only one who lives locally and the only one with dcs, while they do not see a huge amount of my mum, they are fond of her. my dh wants nothing to do with her but will support me in however i want to react.

i am, frankly, reeling at her behaviour, it is so contradictory to what she preaches, so to speak and am really not sure how to behave toward her.

finished?

well done and thank you.

hit me with the mn wiseness please, as if i was ever in need of it, it is now

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janegrey · 22/06/2009 22:31

OP - my mum had a succession of affairs which led to my parents almost splitting up when I was 13. That was the most miserable year of my life.

They stayed together, then she had another affair when I was at college - which she insisted on confiding to me about. It was a horrible thing to expect a daughter to do.

She had at least two other indiscretions after that, including sleeping with my father's brother (my dad and my father's brother never found out to my knowledge -it's only me and my dh who know and dh wishes he doesn't).

She died a few years ago and I'm afraid to say a part of me still hates her for what she did, largely because of the misery it caused to us children.

However, my father could be a complete B* to her and I believe there was domestic abuse from him, plus she had had an incredibly unhappy childhood and I think she was continually seeking affection and attention which she didn't always get from my dad.

So these things are never simple I suspect and at least you are now an adult which might make it a bit easier to deal with - although still a terrible shock.

Your feelings are very normal in the circumstances, and I suggest coming on here and having a rant is an excellent thing.

I really wouldn't cut off contact, but I don't think there's anything wrong with you telling her, as calmly as you can, how you are feeling.

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janegrey · 22/06/2009 22:32

I meant my father's sister (my aunt) never found out - the brother who slept with her knew of course!

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janegrey · 22/06/2009 22:33

Sorry, I'm too tired - my father's sister-in-law (my aunt)

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MyMumIsASlapper · 23/06/2009 11:56

thank you again - yes, i think it is the hypocrisy that is really getting to me, though obv i do not condone her actions!she presents a real "upstanding" no cheating, lying etc ideal yet expects everyone to look the other way while she does exactly that.

i agree that no-one except the 2 parties ever know what goes on in a marriage, perhaps my parents are not the most comptaible couple on the world (though their public persona is more like a couple of the year ), but i am as certain as i can be that there is nothing sinister like domestic violence going on

if it is the menopause - then it has been going on since her mid-30s......though agree that she must have many underlying issues that of course i cannot know anything about.

thank you for sharing your stories with me, i know it cannot have been easy but it really has helped me. i have been thinking everything through a lot and really there isn't anything to gain from taking the moral high ground and putting on a cats bum face when she is around.

i don't think i can talk to her about it, we have a pleasant though not "close" relationship and tbh i don't really want to know any more than i do. also she is the kind of person who would take it totally the wrong way, view it as an attack and hey presto i am the one in the wrong

so carry on regardless it is

thank you again all of you. please continue to post if you want to add anything

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morningpaper · 23/06/2009 12:00

I think you'e had a shock and one that affects how you see your family/past/yourself. Counselling would, I think, be really beneficial to put this into context and help you move on - and also to help you see the best way of progeressing with regards to your relationship with your mum. Good luck.

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OrmIrian · 23/06/2009 12:05

Good for you. I'm not sure I'd be able to be as grown-up.

I don't think there is anything wrong with expressing your sorrow/shock/anger (delete as appropriate) to your mother. No-one in a family can expect to do something like that without causing collateral damage. She is being naive and a little selfish to think that is the case. And you need to get it out in the open if you are to carry on a meaningful relationship with her.

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MyMumIsASlapper · 23/06/2009 12:09

cheers ladies

do you think counselling would help? apart from dh and my siblings, the only place i have spoken about it is here, i just can't bring myself to with anyone else in rl, it makes me feel sick really.

i really, really couldn't tell my mum how i feel. that is what my siblings did - the reason they are not speaking to her is really because she took umbrage at what they said and is refusing to speak to them...

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OrmIrian · 23/06/2009 12:20

In that case she is being absurd. Did she really not think that her behaviour was going to upset people?

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MyMumIsASlapper · 23/06/2009 12:23

she has always been like that, no-one can criticise her or they end up being the one in the wrong. though obviously sleeping around outside of her marriage is an extreme example.

if you met her though i'm sure you would think she is lovely, she is a bit of a "pillar of the community" type

this is a bit of a can of worms really isn't it?

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OrmIrian · 23/06/2009 12:25

It is indeed . Perhaps counselling would be the best thing then. it if makes you feel sick it needs dealing with and it sounds as if she isn't going to help you there.

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MyMumIsASlapper · 23/06/2009 12:29

perhaps counselling might be a plan then. it is really difficult to even talk about it with dh tbh - would it be easier with a stranger?

it really does make me feel ill to think about it. dh has told his parents and MIL (with, for once, the best will in the world!)tried to talk to me about it - i had to leave the room

oh bum

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OrmIrian · 23/06/2009 12:31

I think it would be easier with a stranger yes. DH had counselling when his father was dying. he had some awful issues about his childhood and his father's complete selfish inadequacy. And he felt he could say anything to her. Things he wouldn't have wanted to admit to anyone involved.

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sobloodystupid · 23/06/2009 12:36

so sorry you are going through all this. My mum was absolutely awful throughout the menopause, all angry and hard and judgey. I also believe that she had an affair with my uncle and that my brother may be his (prior to the menopause of course!) However, she is now so lovely, so kind and genuinely sweet, I don't want to bring it up ever. It is so soon now don't make yourself behave in a certain way with your mum. If you're angry with her, tell her or confide in your siblings/dh or even your MIL (if you can bear to!). I think counselling may be the way to go, it is the hypocrisy of it all that sticks in the craw! Good luck and hold on tight to your dh and dMIL (she sounds nice)

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MyMumIsASlapper · 23/06/2009 12:36

i know it's not healthy to have things on your mind that make you feel physically unwell. i thought i could just kind of "bury" it but i think i'm kidding myself really.

will give it some thought, thank you.

am seeing my mum on fri for coffee, that will be interesting. we will talk about the weather, the children, her work - anything really apart from what i have posted here...

it is all very weird

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ElvisLovesEssex · 23/06/2009 12:49

I just wanted to apologise for my post yesterday (not all of it - I still think you need to give yourself time; this must be an awful shock on so many levels). I had no right to have said that you need to stop calling your mum names. In a way, this is a safe environment to do just that and I can imagine that anonymous venting might be just the release you need at the moment.

I agree that counselling could be a big help. Just being able to talk to someone who will listen and not judge you is bound to be useful.

Good luck.

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ToughDaddy · 23/06/2009 18:03

I have so many brothers to look out for (Catholic parents) and we all have a striking resemblance

OP- sorry to hear of your worry.

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MyMumIsASlapper · 24/06/2009 14:26

thank you ElvisLovesEssex

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