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Tell me why I shouldn't walk out now. Please.

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:20

DH and I are going through a very sticky patch. Have been for about a year. We keep trying to get things back on track but life/events/DCs seem to get in the way. It's easier if he isn't around - I prefer it if he goes out. He constantly snaps at me and the DCs. He's become a real authoritarian, rarely has anything positive to say - particularly to my eldest DS. Camping at the weekend was hellish for a variety of reasons but mainly because he was in a such a foul mood - everytime anyone asked him to do anything he rolled his eyes and snapped at them, or did it very reluctantly. The only person he's nice too is our youngest, or sometimes me if we are alone together.

I've had a really stressful time at work recently and DD and I have had a strained few months which has made me really unhappy. His attitude is always 'ffs get a grip and don't be so stupid' which isn't helpful. Isn't he supposed to offer sympathy and support?

I've lost a lot of weight recently and been getting fitter. I've bought new clothes and basically been trying to counteract my feeling of being middle-aged and unattractive. His response to that is to ask me if I'm having an affair . The first few times I took it as a joke but he keeps saying it.

I now feel as if the only connection between us is the DCs and nothing else. He's given up smoking which I know is hard and maybe he's a bit depressed (we've both been there before) but he won't talk to me about anything emotional - just shuts down and dismisses anything I say. I've reached the point where I don't want to mention anything about how I feel to him. It's not worth it.

I rang him just now to ask when he was coming home as I need to go shopping because our online delivery didn't arrive. He shouted at me along the lines of 'so you're going to leave me with the DCs the moment I walk in the door?' (probably to do with wanting to sit and watch the football without being disturbed). Right now I'm sitting here dreading his coming home. Because apart from the fact he'll be miserable I will have to face again the increasingly undeniable fact that I simply don't love him anymore. We've been together for 20+ years and we've seen each other through so many crises. I just feel as if I've been worn down. This isn't right is it? If I could press a button and be a year down the line, living apart and all the chaos sorted out I'd do it.

If you have been, thanks for reading. Feels better just saying it all.

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Sparkletastic · 18/06/2008 17:25

If you told him what you were thinking how would he react? If he thought he might really lose you would he try to change / seek help / go to Relate with you? If yes to any of those then sit him down later, when it is just you two, and lay it on the line. If he walks away write him a letter. Sounds like your 20 years haven't been all bad by any means and there might be something worth saving maybe....

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moodlumthehoodlum · 18/06/2008 17:25

Orm - I don't really know what to say or advise, but it isn't right to feel this worn down, or for life to be so miserable. I'm sure someone wiser than me will be along in a minute and give some wise advice, but I didn't want your post to go unanswered.

Sorry not to be more help. How old are your dcs?

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Collision · 18/06/2008 17:26

Maybe just come out and ask him?

'If you arent happy here at home with me and the children, shall we call it quits, no animosity, and split up?'

See what he says. It might make him think.

Just tell him that he seems v unhappy and that maybe he would be happier away from the home. Point out some practical things like how much a flat would cost.

Or ask him how you could make his life happier and tell him how he could make your life happier.

Life is too short to be with someone like this imho!

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:27

I don't know sparkle. What worries me is that I don't think I can be bothered anymore. I feel like it's been a struggle on and off since my eldest was born.

His dad walked out on them when he was 4 and I wonder if it preys on his mind. TBH I wish he would atm

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StellaWasADiver · 18/06/2008 17:28

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Collision · 18/06/2008 17:28

OK, he was 4 when his dad walked out but at some point you do have to get over it!

Does he want that for his own children - no Dad around - you need to make him talk or at least listen to how you are feeling.

Or write a letter.

am v sad for you

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:28

5, 9 and 11, moodlum.

collision - maybe I will. Maybe. I just want to shut the door on it all right now.

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:31

stella - I don't know. I dread to think. I know that a confrontation is due I just can't face it. What a coward eh?

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greenelizabeth · 18/06/2008 17:31

OrmIrian, I feel for you and really identify. My x made life MORE difficult, not easier. I felt like we could be happy without him around dragging our moods down. I was right.

But I have to stop myself from telling everybody to leave their husbands!!

I agree with Collission. Find out first if this is a just grumpy rut he's slipped in to.

But if he doesn't value you, and respect your right to make the most of yourself without running you down... then don't be afraid to leave him. Don't feel you CAN'T.

People often say to me "it must be so hard" and they mean being a single mother. But the truth is it's easier because I'm not tip toeing around another person's unreasonable behaviour all the time. Only some of the time.

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me23 · 18/06/2008 17:32

sorry you're going through this. I think you need to make him aware of how serious this has become he may have no idea you are on the verge of telling him to go.

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:32

"But the truth is it's easier because I'm not tip toeing around another person's unreasonable behaviour all the time" I've often thought that. I can deal with a stroppy 11 and 9 yr old and a wild 5 yr old much better without a black thundercloud of a DH as well.

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Sparkletastic · 18/06/2008 17:33

Hmmm - not at all right or fair that you are feeling like this OrmIrian. Could it be work stress that he is taking out on you and DCs? You could suggest he move out for a while to give you a chance to decide whether there is any relationship to save but will that come as a massive shock to him?

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:34

It might be partly due to work. It's not a stressful job but he's working very long hours atm which I know is wearing him out. But it's pretty sh*t for the rest of us too as we all wake up early too.

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greenelizabeth · 18/06/2008 17:35

OrmIrian, I was unable to prevent myself from taking my unhappiness out on the children (sometimes). Xp would shout criticism at me, and I would be ratty with my eldest. Not fair.

She was showing signs of being an anxious child before I left. She has flourished since we left. WE are allowed to be happy, and silly and giddy now. She won't be shouted at for walking in front of the tv either!!

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:36

Ah yes greenelisabeth. The TV - a huge cause of anger in my DH too. Woe betide anyone who loses the remote

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:38

The awful thing is that when I think about not being with him at all, I get really upset. It would be easier if I could hate him for being an arse.

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Swedes · 18/06/2008 17:43

Orm - Sorry to hear this. My ex husband and I were together for 20 years. He was very bad tempered in general, especially with our two sons. It is very wearing and you have my sympathy. As soon as I stopped making an effort (making excuses for him to myself and other people, mopping up after his hopeless parenting, always trying to make his life better in the hope it would make him behave better) and admitted to myself that we had a huge problem, things fell apart alarmingly quickly.

Is he capable of managing his moods? Is he capable of altering the way he interacts with your children? Do you want to be with him?

I feel it's my duty to tell you that family breakdown is a truly horrible experience. x

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:46

I know swedes. I've seen too many not to know that . Which is probably why I'm hiding my head in the sand atm.

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Sparkletastic · 18/06/2008 17:47

Orm you really need to talk to him. Do you think you could face it tonight? You clearly haven't quite reached the end of your tether but sounds like you only have a short way to go.

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OrmIrian · 18/06/2008 17:49

He's going out sparkle. I might tackle him later but its so easy to just go to sleep and forget about it for a few hours.

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3littlefrogs · 18/06/2008 17:51

Could he possibly be ill? I am not making excuses for him, but how is his health generally?

I know someone who was on the point of leaving her husband because he was so grumpy and difficult, then it turned out he had an undiagnosed illness that had crept up on him slowly. Once he was treated things improved a lot.

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Sparkletastic · 18/06/2008 17:54

Not tonight then - you'll be too tired. Any chance of getting a sitter and going out somewhere with him this week? Might keep it calmer and make him more inclined to open up. You said he could be nicer when on his own with you so perhaps a meal out might but him in a better frame of mind to reflect on things at home?

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BagelBird · 18/06/2008 17:56

My sympathy too xx
Trying to be as objective as possible and looking from his possible perspective, I can?t help but wonder if there is more to this than he is telling you. His comments about you having an affair and his increasingly authoritive behaviour sounds like a need to control. Often when people become more controlling and more easily annoyed/upset it is due to an unconscious need to "compensate" and make up for his own feelings of being out of control/threatened in some way (work pressure, money, relationship etc). Perhaps he is having a worse time at work than he is allowing you to know or is genuinely feeling very worried and insecure about your relationship as a couple right now.. I am not trying to excuse, just suggesting that there will be a reason (or several compounding reasons) why he has changed. Chances are it is nothing to do with you or the boys and he might even be more angry and frustrated at knowing he is lashing out unfairly.
I could be totally wrong here, but thought it worth at least mentioning

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