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I don't think my husband loves me

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IchangedMyName30 · 16/05/2020 00:44

Just that really. We have a good relationship I would say, parent our 3 year DS together well but I just don't think he loves me. I think he needs me and probably likes me but I don't think loves me. Here's a few reasons why I think he might not:


I suffer from migraines quite bad. Not all the time but it's a bit of a pain. He doesn't really sympathise to be honest. He doesn't say "are you ok?", or "don't worry, it will get better". He isn't an arse about it at all but he doesn't show concern.

This morning I was in our bedroom putting clothes away and he was at the top of the stairs putting his socks on and I said did you dust the TV when you dusted, it looks really dusty. I didn't say it in a nagging way or anything. I caught a glimpse of him sat on the stairs and he pulled this face that was full of resentment, that's the only way I can describe it and it broke my heart to be honest, I know that's sad but the facial expression is etched in my mind.

He doesn't really seem to get excited about spending time with me. He played darts tonight over video call with one of his friends after we put our DS to bed and I sat and watched TV. Once he finished, he came into the living room and I was like did you enjoy it? Did you have fun? All smiles and he was like yeah, picked up his book and started reading it then said he was going to bed. I don't really encourage us sitting and chatting but I was making the effort and felt rejected.

I jokingly said the other day that my hair looked like a scarecrow and he laughed and said yeah when your hair has been tied up, you get this kink in your hair that reminds me of a horse? I just sort of laughed it off but it hurt a bit. He's never said anything like that before so it feels a bit like he's noticing my flaws now if that makes sense?

It's my birthday soon and he asked me to send him photos of what I wanted. I kept forgetting and he kept saying send me the photos so it's more like he's made it a duty rather than something nice.

We both work. I'm furloughed and he's on reduced hours and working from home. I do about 70% of the house work and all the cooking so it's not like I'm lazy and a crap wife and he's grown to resent me for it.

We laugh a lot together about our DS, he's a funny kid. Apart from that though, I can't say I can remember when he last asked me how I was or what I'm up to or anything. I do ask him but not all the time.

When we got together 9 years a go (married for 6), he was more into me I think than I was him but that was only at the very start. I love him and care about him deeply. I'm one of those types of partners that leaves him to his own devices, I don't bother him on nights out (he doesn't go out much and obviously not at all lately) he does his football etc and I'm more than fine with that and show a bit of interest but something has made him resent me I think and I don't know what.

It's really that face he pulled that has got me feeling like this at the moment.

Definitely no cheating going on. He hardly ever has his phone on him, his iPad is always left out for our DS to use and me if I need and before lockdown he would go to the football with his dad, take our DS out to meet his dad for lunch and very rarely have a night out with his best friend and always return home around 11pm!

Am I overthinking this? Am I maybe reading too much into a couple of isolated incidents? Any advice would be appreciated thanks

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Joanofardvark · 16/05/2020 17:45

See how he goes on now you’ve had a good clear chat about it OP. You’ve been really excellent saying clearly what was wrong, why you didn’t like it, etc. His response sounds pretty good in that he accepted it would obviously be off putting for you you having seen this stuff as anybody would be put off. He’s explained why he thinks he’s doing it but I would hope that he doesn’t see it as acceptable behaviour? This is key really.
Only you can judge that now and see whether he modifies it. I would let him be really nice and make it up to you as long as there isn’t a pattern of really nice immediately after being horrible and then falling back to horrible- if there’s a pattern it’s a no no.
Essentially there’s a difference to someone searching for an excuse, secretly knowing their behaviour is abusive or whatever and then not doing anything about it and repeating it as a form of control, and someone realising that something they thought they were doing unobserved has been seen and being genuinely sorry.

You’ve done brilliantly as you’ve been clear and laid out what you expect and you’ve discussed how it’s been off putting for you. It sounds as if a light dawned for him that getting rid of this habit would help the relationship in general which is great.

Also only you will know and if you feel you’re doing too much or being taken for granted- another talk with him about how things can be alleviated for you (especially with the migraine issue) would be good and again you’ll be sticking up for yourself and if you’re asking him to cooperate that’s fair enough!

You said you came off something re the migraines? I found the pill gave me ones...
Hope they stop for you Flowers

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Candyfloss99 · 16/05/2020 17:47

I've made his life very easy. I have organised all childcare at all times, I work around DS's nursery, I do all the appointments (he comes to important one's), I get on great with his parents and his friends and my family love him. He doesn't have any reason to be pulling faces behind my back, this isn't the first time and I've heard him mutter 'fuck off' a few times when I've asked simple things. Of course the odd thing I say can be a bit nagging but under usual circumstances we're both working and quite busy so I do need to ensure things get done because I can't do it all.

This sounds like you have a mother and son relationship not a husband and wife one. You do everything for him so he doesn't see you sexually anymore I'm afraid. You need to do a lot less for him and your aim in your marriage shouldn't be to make his life easier.

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Hairydogmummy · 16/05/2020 17:59

All sounds quite normal for a couple at your age/stage OP. My DH will sometimes give me awful looks, mutters things etc and I know for a fact he loves me to bits. It's all apart of being human. Some people have really unrealistic expectations of their fellow humans. You're both under pressure at the moment. Life isn't easy. Don't over analyse the TV thing...so so insignificant. Like others have said, try to carve out some time as a couple and both of you would benefit from losing some weight if that's an issue...also would make both of you feel better about yourselves, have more energy, avoid the dreaded covid! Don't listen to people condemning your relationship based on a couple of snippets. No one would stay 5 minutes married if they listened to some mumsnetters!

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PersephoneandHades · 16/05/2020 18:20

OP I think it sounds like your conversation with him went very well, I do not agree with the people saying that he sounds like a gaslighter and I did not agree with the people saying that the situation was your fault for ‘nagging’!

Now it is all a matter of whether he changes his behaviour and respects you more, and whether you guys share the workload more equally and find your intimacy again. It sounds like you got into a rut that you both can get out of so good luck to you and your family; though as others have said, if he doesn’t change I don’t think he’s worth keeping around.

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Kona84 · 16/05/2020 20:53

Asking if he dusted the tv when you have clearly seen that he hasn’t is setting him up to fall into a trap. If he says yes you tell him that he didn’t do it well or tell him that he is lying. If he says no you then ask him why he can’t do the simplest of tasks.

I say this from experience of Inadvertently setting traps like this for my partner when I’m particularly irked by him not doing something. I already know the answer but still ask the question.
I recognised i was doing this after reading a post like yours and recognising myself.
I’ve come to realise that housework is not my partners strong point and even if he did it I would probably still adjust or finish it to my standard. So I just do it myself, I don’t argue about it or call him out on it. Every now and again he surprises me by actually doing stuff and I take care not to improve on it. And guess what he does more now than he used to.

His face may have been to himself for forgetting, maybe he was beating himself up for forgetting to do it. Lots of internal dialogue like ‘why can’t I get it right’ maybe he is distracted with the worries of everything and honestly just forgot.

Do you thank each other for the things you both do? Does he thank you for cooking dinner etc? Do you thank him when he does something to help out? Gratitude goes along way to acknowledging how much it means. And I know there will be people who say I shouldn’t have to thank him, I shouldn’t have to praise him every time he washes up. But those same people will say their partners never thank them for what they do.a simple thank you can go a long way and help to reinforce the behaviours you want to see.

Pay him a few compliments even if it’s on the stupidly small stuff and I’m sure it will be repaid

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SylvanianFrenemies · 16/05/2020 20:59

I love my partner very much.
I also pull faces and swear behind his back when he pisses me off.
I think in a ltr you don't really retain being excited about routine activities together. Maybe some do, but it is unusual.
Having a friendship, respect for each other, and having good sex are important, though.

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Coffeecak3 · 16/05/2020 22:14

@SylvanianFrenemies. Me too with the muttering under my breath. Especially when my now retired dh micro manages all the things he was never interested in before.
But I still adore my dh and I know he loves me and we really can joke about our equally annoying foibles.

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Flamingodial · 16/05/2020 22:21

I was with my husband 25 years Until last year and the last few years he didn’t love me. You just know as the dynamic changeA. Same things - if I was ill he would absolutely do everything, look after our child, make me food and drinks, but he just didn’t ‘care’ about me. And I knew it. He would always stay up after I went to bed, as soon as we finished a film would read instead of chatting. The connection was just gone.

I’d confront it as it might be salvageable. I left it and then it got too late

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Weenurse · 17/05/2020 00:51

So sorry 💐

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Longshotinthedark · 17/05/2020 07:12

"Don't listen to people condemning your relationship based on a couple of snippets. No one would stay 5 minutes married if they listened to some mumsnetters!"

This!

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Egghead68 · 17/05/2020 07:35

I’m sorry for your loss Flowers

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PicsInRed · 17/05/2020 07:42

My DH will sometimes give me awful looks, mutters things etc and I know for a fact he loves me to bits.

How do you know he loves you to bits?
Actions speak louder than words.

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dontdisturbmenow · 17/05/2020 07:57

Pulling faces is much less upsetting than someone going behind you and picking up on what you supposedly haven't done.

As said, I couldn't live someone like you it would drive me bonkers and I wouldn't be able to resist the muttering of fu.

What matters though is that you are on the same page and communicate what upset both. I would however be concerned that he says nothing upsets him to you when his behaviours shows differently so he might be opting to tell you what you want to hear so not to upset you further. If that's the case, this is bad.

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Hairydogmummy · 17/05/2020 21:20

@PicsInRed because he tells me, shows me, everything you'd expect really? He's kind, caring, considerate, does loads, compliments me, pays me attention, makes me laugh, great in bed...you name it. I'm really lucky but he's not perfect and neither am I.

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Hairydogmummy · 17/05/2020 21:28

Seriously...the OP always disappears on these threads and it's not hard to see why. Can you imagine if everyone had a give a brief relationship CV before posting....it would be like
Just been dumped
Just been cheated on
Husband just left me
More failed relationships than hot dinners
Long term single and bitter
No ones been good enough for me
Divorced three times
You wouldn't see a post asking for advice from say someone who had been on a world cruise and comment anyway even though you've never been further than the next town. You wouldn't post to someone who was worried about a toothache and tell them they should have all their teeth pulled. Seriously ladies...it's a bit mad.

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PicsInRed · 17/05/2020 21:33

Hairydogmummy

I simply asked as you said he gives you "awful looks" and "mutters things" and "etc".

I wouldn't use that as proof that OP is in a good or OK situation, as even if you are satisfied with things he really sounds very disrespectful. The good things you mention are what any man should do, the bad things are what should not be present in a respectful relationship at all. 💐

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beenwhereyouare · 18/05/2020 09:29

@Hairydogmummy
His auntie has died suddenly today, 62 years old, tested positive for coronavirus a few weeks back. I'll put this on the back burner for now for sure. He is still apologetic despite this news. It's a shock to everyone. Using the main site and not the app so my name has changed again. Thanks all

OP didn't disappear.

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CorianderLord · 18/05/2020 14:24

Just ask him? You're married you should be able to have an open conversation.

My DP used to get really upset by the face I pulled when I was angry. He said it looked like I hated him but honestly it's just what my face does... I don't hate him ever, not even when angry.

He might just have rolled his eyes and been stressed about work and then you said that and it was annoying.

You'll only find out if you talk about it

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beenwhereyouare · 18/05/2020 16:12

@Hairydogmummy
I meant that in the nicest way.

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