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Can't seem to find a man to fancy

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toffeeapple123 · 08/12/2018 12:51

Absolutely terrified of ended up alone because despite being in quite a few long term relationships over the years - trying to give it a go with men I don't fancy but hoping it'd develop - I've realised it is very important to have that spark. But I've only ever had it with two men my entire life.

I'm approaching mid 30s and petrified of the pressure of finding that special someone - with that spark - in the next few years to settle down with. Maybe it won't happen? So should I settle?

Please help?

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Sethis · 09/12/2018 23:16

Can I ask why you check out women in 20s - simply because they're attractive? What about women in their 30s? How old is your DP?

Sure, no worries. My DP is 32 - one year older than me. We met online because I did the usual "messaging someone who had something at least a little bit interesting to say and met my minimum physical standards" thing and we got chatting very quickly, often for hours at a time! We're LDR now because I work outside the country 9 months per year, but have been together for a year and a half and all is going well! She wants me to wife her (her phrasing haha) and I'm inclined to do so, assuming we can come up with a plan for the future.

When it comes to looking at other people, I can only speak for myself, I don't claim to be representative of my whole gender... However in my mind there's a very clear dividing line between appreciating someone's physical body and looking at someone and thinking "potential partner". I appreciate people's bodies all the time - street, work, beach, everywhere. In the same way I appreciate anything that's aesthetically pleasing when I see it - art, motorbikes, nature etc. However I very rarely think "potential partner" without having spent a decent amount of time getting to know someone. However when "just looking" occurs there's really no particular age limit that's strictly defined. I can appreciate a pretty 18yr old just as much as I appreciate a pretty 40yr old, but it's not a lust thing, it's just... liking the curves, I guess? I wouldn't go anywhere near someone at the extreme ends of that spectrum in terms of relationships, and it would take a conversation, and the possibility of further conversations in the future, for someone to transition in my mind from one to the other.

That's why I suggest clubs and sport and societies, because it allows you to talk to guys and make that transition, rather than just go places where everything is 100% based on looks without any conversation taking place first. The prospect of seeing someone again in the future instead of them vanishing is another important step for me to think of a woman in terms of relationship option rather than "pretty but not possible".

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toffeeapple123 · 09/12/2018 21:37

MadGentleman I don't have a strict physical appearance - I date all kinds of men and don't go based simply on looks. I'm not that shallow honestly Grin But it's just so rare for me to find any man to fancy. It's excruciating.

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toffeeapple123 · 09/12/2018 21:36

TatianaLarina I'm not that strict in terms of who I date. All kinds. But I fancy my type the most and after finding that spark with someone lately, I don't want to go without it ever again. It's just so hard. It's so easy for many people Confused

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toffeeapple123 · 09/12/2018 21:34

Sethis Wow thank you for the inspiring post - and from a man! Smile It's rare to come across a man in their 30s on online dating not looking for a woman in her 20s. You're the exception!

Can I ask why you check out women in 20s - simply because they're attractive? What about women in their 30s? How old is your DP?

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MadGentleman · 09/12/2018 10:45

Not sure if by having "a go with men I don't fancy but hoping it'd develop" you mean they were all tall, dark, sporty men with a hint of eccentricity but you didn't have that spark?

My advice: drop the physical requirements and look out for the spark. Seriously, that's what matters. The two most significant relationships in my life were with wildly different women physically. I wouldn't have missed out on either.

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TatianaLarina · 09/12/2018 10:06

yes dad and first love both dark and tall and very handsome!

So this is your template, and you’re looking for a carbon copy.

You need to widen and deepen who and what you find attractive.

Which is not the same thing as dating people you don’t find attractive.

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Sethis · 09/12/2018 01:07

They still look now, but not very often - downside of being in your 30s!

You do yourself a disservice! I'm a 31yr old bloke myself, and while I can tell you I absolutely check out women in their 20s, I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft pole when it comes to relationships. Too immature for the most part.

Also please remember that a lot of guys have taken the whole #metoo thing pretty seriously (yes, I know that's not the popular perception on MN) and are now a lot more wary about openly eyeing up a woman, or intruding in what they perceive as her privacy/space, so it may well be up to you to start the conversation!

Your friend is wrong that only the rejects are online. I met my DP who I plan to marry online, as did many others. There are a boatload of creeps out there, I'm afraid, but there are gems too if you look hard enough! Just cast as wide a net as possible if you're looking for a specific type of fish... Smile

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toffeeapple123 · 08/12/2018 22:31

DianaT1969 yes dad and first love both dark and tall and very handsome!

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toffeeapple123 · 08/12/2018 22:31

Agree about men being entitled to their selfishness. We have a long way to go for a fair society.

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toffeeapple123 · 08/12/2018 22:30

Sethis I used to be very active when younger - men would look, but never talk to me. They still look now, but not very often - downside of being in your 30s! Besides, I've never had a boyfriend from meeting someone out and about - is that unusual? Online dating seems to be the way to go, but I'm quite put off - a friend made an observation that only the rejects are online! Grin

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Sethis · 08/12/2018 17:28

Actively expand your potential pool of options.

Go to every single class at your local fitness centre, one or two per week. Lie shamelessly about intending to continue with the class while scoping out the blokes.

Go to sports practices, music events, art galleries, whatever. The point isn't to find a new hobby, the point is to be in a situation where you might see a man you like the look of and have a natural reason to strike up a conversation with him.

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CarlsRightEye · 08/12/2018 17:27

Don't worry, I'm 40 next year and been single for over 10 years! Maybe our mr rights are hiding somewhere together haha xx

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TooTrueToBeGood · 08/12/2018 17:23

Hey! I resent that remark. I’m not selfish. Much. A little. Sometimes. Often.

She's right though. Everyone is naturally selfish to a degree. However, men tend to feel entitled to have their selfishness tolerated and accepted whilst women are socialised to be men-pleasers. A sweeping generalisation and of course there are exceptions but the true judges of whether we are amongst the exceptions are the women in our lives and not ourselves. If we want better for our daughters we need to recognise that we are part of the problem before we can be part of the solution.

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maximumcarnage · 08/12/2018 17:13

I’m only joking Wink

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HockStock · 08/12/2018 17:12

I am allowed to express an opinion based on my observations and life experience.

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maximumcarnage · 08/12/2018 16:51

Hey! I resent that remark. I’m not selfish. Much. A little. Sometimes. Often. Hmm

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HockStock · 08/12/2018 16:49

Don't settle.

The problem I find is that men are socialised to be quite selfish towards women. There is a small pool of decent men, out of those men who are available, you will have mutual attraction with a tiny amount.

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Rosielily · 08/12/2018 16:43

Absolutely terrified of ended up alone

  • why? Better off on your own than settling with just anyone. As another poster indicated, there is nothing wrong with singledom, think of the freedom to make your own choices, and eat cake!
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DianaT1969 · 08/12/2018 16:24

Do you know where this attraction stems from? Did your first boyfriend or father look like this? A sports holiday in Italy when you were seventeen?😊
Knowing the source might break the spell. Even if you find a tall, muscular, sporty, dark man, chances are he won't stay that way past 50...

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cleanhousewastedlife · 08/12/2018 16:15

I thought I fancied muscular, dark artistic men. I married a blonde scientist Grin I'm glad I have him a try!

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maximumcarnage · 08/12/2018 16:07

Not sure what you’re worried about. You could meet the right guy any time. Whilst out shopping. At a party. Paying a bill. Why work yourself up over it?

Okay. Worst case scenario. You never meet a guy that flicks your switch. So what? Your life having meaning doesn’t rely on a guy. If you’re lonely go out and socialise. Take up a hobby. Indulge in the things you enjoy out of life. Heck. Go buy a cat. Or a dog. Or eat cake. I really like cake. Or cheesecake.

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TatianaLarina · 08/12/2018 16:02

Like I said there’s no point dating people you don’t fancy. Of course you need to fancy them. But you can change what you you’re drawn to.

Bald fact is if you don’t you’ll end up with a dark haired twat.

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toffeeapple123 · 08/12/2018 15:46

TatianaLarina I've tried :( For five years or so, I dated men who I liked the look of, but didn't fancy, and got along with very well. It just didn't work for me. I need to fancy the person. But I just don't fancy many men.

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TatianaLarina · 08/12/2018 15:41

That’s not the same as hoping for a spark with someone you don’t have one with.

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TatianaLarina · 08/12/2018 15:36

It sounds like you’re going a bit on appearance over personality hence ending up with twats.

It’s not true you can’t help who you fancy, you can educate your own taste.

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