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Is this weird, or AIBU?

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SodsLaw2017 · 29/03/2017 12:15

I met a guy on an OLD site just after Christmas. We emailed back and forward for a couple of weeks, then arranged to meet. A few days before we were due to meet, he got in touch and said he’d had a second date with someone that weekend and wanted to focus on pursuing things with her (let’s call her A).

I was disappointed, but glad he wasn’t trying to mess either of us around. So I replied and said thanks for being honest and that I hoped it would work out for them. I didn’t expect to hear from him again, but then got an email from him suggesting that we meet for a drink as friends as we seemed to have lots in common. I was a bit dubious, and asked him if that was ok with A. He said yes, he’d discussed it with her, and she was fine with it – so we went for a drink and it was lovely. Lots to talk about, very relaxed. There was no flirting, and we kissed on the cheek at the end of the night. I went home happy to have made a new connection / potential friend who seemed like a decent person.

About two weeks later, we met up for dinner – again, we had a lovely relaxed evening. Towards the end of the night he asked if I’d met up with anyone else from the OLD site. We talked about dating generally, and I asked how it was going with A. He talked about the end of his last relationship (in November) and said that he’d come to realise that he wasn’t ready for a full-on serious monogamous relationship and just wanted to date casually for a while. He’d discussed this with A but it was clear that they wanted different things, so they’d gone their separate ways.

We’ve met up a couple more times, the most recent being last night. In the last month he’s moved out of the flat he shared with his ex (she moved out in November), and he’s changed jobs. He’s said that the break up affected him more than he’d realised at the time, and that he just wanted to stay clear of dating / relationships in any form for a while, until he settles into the new flat and the new job.

From my point of view: he’s very attractive, we get on really well and have a good time together, and normally I’d be interested in him – BUT I understand that he’s clearly not over his ex, and 100% not open to anything long-term with someone new. So I’ve been arranging dates with other people, trying to open up my own social circle a bit more and generally getting on with life. I feel happy that we met and that we’re building a decent friendship, and I like spending time with him. I worked in a male-dominated field until 2011 and always had lots of male friends. I’ve lost touch with most of them and miss having male friends to hang out with. It was nice to do that again with this guy. This is the first time I’ve developed a friendship with someone this way – I’ve stayed friends with exes after a relationship ended, but I’ve never gone from meeting online to becoming friends and skipping the dating / relationship / sex part, if you see what I mean. It’s been a nice surprise to think that this could happen.

Anyway, we met up last night, went to see a film and then had a drink afterwards. In the pub, he mentioned that he’d been on a date the week before (let’s call her B), and ‘she clearly wants something monogamous and long-term, and I’m just not up for that, but I really hope we stay friends.’

On the way home I felt disappointed and a bit upset, and this morning I realised why. It feels rather like he’s ‘shopping around’ for new female friends via dating sites. A, B and I all wanted a monogamous relationship; with me and B he realised that he didn’t want monogamy / a relationship, he met up with us anyway, and now wants to see us as friends.

I thought he was a decent honest bloke, now I'm suspicious that he seems to be building up a list of women who he knows like him, maybe for when he is ready for a relationship. AIBU to think of him like this?

I appreciate that because I’m attracted to him, I’m biased. I hadn’t realised until last night that I wasn’t ok with being just friends, or how I’d feel when he told me he’d been dating other people.

Maybe it doesn’t matter what he’s doing / what his motivation is, and I should just cut contact with someone I’m attracted to who clearly doesn’t feel the same way about me. I’m guess I'm disappointed at the idea of losing what I thought was a new friend.

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SorrelSoup · 29/03/2017 17:06

"You're not good enough for him to have a relationship with"

I meant, that's what you're taking from his actions and that's making you feel bad. Obviously you are way too good for him!

Whether it's hedging his bets/keeping options open/not ready, it's all basically no good to you and what you're after. Ime if blokes want something they're all over it. Don't set yourself up for hurt.

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Jayfee · 29/03/2017 17:05

sorry mEant good luck.

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Jayfee · 29/03/2017 17:05

i havent read all the posts, but if he really likes you, he would be scared of getting hurt again. there is no easy answer. best to keep friends. tricky situation. gof

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LesisMiserable · 29/03/2017 16:55

Well then you should definitely stop meeting him. The fact that he's been upfront and honest should be lauded but you're not being honest about your feelings.

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BadTasteFlump · 29/03/2017 16:54

op don't think that way Sad. If he thinks that, or is leading you to believe he thinks that, then he's not good enough for you.

Kick him to the kerb and move on - if he doesn't make you feel good about yourself, why bother giving him headspace?

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SodsLaw2017 · 29/03/2017 16:48

"You're not good enough for him to have a relationship with"

That's exactly how I feel Sad

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TheNaze73 · 29/03/2017 14:42

He's being honest. It's your call. I don't think it's a pick me dance at all. Any decent person will have lots of options both online & offline. Everyone has the right to be choosy.

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MangoSplit · 29/03/2017 14:36

I agree that it's a bit off for him to do OLD at the moment if he's really looking for friends rather than a relationship.

Having said that, I think lots of people do OLD with various agendas, and his isn't nearly as bad as some - at least he's been honest with all three of you.

So it wouldn't stop me being friends with him (with zero expectation of a relationship in future) if I enjoyed his company and it was making me happy, not miserable, to spend time with him.

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MyheartbelongstoG · 29/03/2017 14:31

Stop wasting your time op.

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purplecoathanger · 29/03/2017 14:29

From what I understand the danger of online dating sites is the mindset that you keep your options open as "a better one will come along next".

If you're going to do online dating the first requirement is to grow a very thick skin.

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Persianprincess69 · 29/03/2017 14:25

What are the best sights to go on then? I am mid 40's.
I am so wet behind ears that I don't understand all the sight abbreviations.
Can anyone enlighten me?
X

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Persianprincess69 · 29/03/2017 14:15

He is probably on a few sights????

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SorrelSoup · 29/03/2017 14:10

I was waiting for you to say, and we met up last night and slept together. I think that's where it will end up. He might seem like he's being honest but I don't trust him. You're not good enough for him to have a relationship with and that is affecting you. He's playing games. I would withdraw for now.

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SodsLaw2017 · 29/03/2017 13:57

And no, definitely not going to offer him FWB or no-strings sex! Been there in my younger days often enough to know how painful it is when there are feelings involved...

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SodsLaw2017 · 29/03/2017 13:56

Thanks all, this has been massively helpful. I'm going to withdraw for a bit and think about whether I can meet up as friends, or just not meet up again. And thanks for being kind. I thought I'd get a massive flaming.

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RandomMess · 29/03/2017 13:44

Do you know what, he may just enjoy your friendship - someone to give him a female perspective on stuff.

He doesn't want a relationship with you so the choice is yours - meet up as friends and continue to OLD etc., or not meet up.

I have a good male friend, I love his company and it's a bit "date" like when we go out but 100% just friends, very close, confide in each other etc. He's not an alpha male and genuinely enjoys female company. Been friends for 15 years now Shock he drove me to my wedding Grin

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Miserylovescompany2 · 29/03/2017 13:28

I wonder if he just does the free OLD trials?

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Ineedmorelemonpledge · 29/03/2017 13:22

It's not weird but yanbu to think on it.

It does sound like he's being honest (but you are the only one who knows how genuine he is and comes across) but he also sounds a bit self absorbed from your conversations.

I keep thinking back to that episode of Friends where there is a guy keeping Phoebe at arms length until she practically begs him to sleep with her on a no strings basis. (Not saying you're going to op Grin)

I think you just need to think of it genuinely as a friendship that won't go anywhere and will probably end when he finds someone he wants to be serious with who may possibly not want her partner to have a huge friend group from a dating site.

If you do meet up again, one test would be to cut him off with the deep relationship woes conversations with a cheery "ah let's not get down into all that relationship melancholy tonight...did you see X on tv last night?"

See if he keeps bringing himself back as the main topic...

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RaspberryBeret34 · 29/03/2017 13:11

Hmmm... I think it is a little off to shop for friends on a dating site (even though he has been honest and maybe thought he was ready for dating at first). I think he just isn't quite thinking about the other people in all this - the "friends" who originally hoped for a longterm relationship and now need to accept cultivating a friendship with someone they are attracted to and is potentially available. It just doesn't seem a stable basis for a friendship. If he did meet someone else, would she be expected to deal with a load of "friends" semi-girlfriends?

When I was doing OLD, I could have accepted friendship from men (who I didn't see relationship potential with) and got a little boost from cosy dinners etc, knowing they were attracted to me. But I wouldn't have done that as it wouldn't be fair on them (and the guilt I'd feel and worry about the eventual fall out would outweigh any benefits!).

My boss ended up friends with some women he dated but I think it happened naturally rather than him saying he'd like to be friends from the start. He has kept all those friends despite now being in a relationship although they have shifted slightly and he has been careful to introduce his GF to them. I am friends with one guy who I dated for 6 weeks but again, it happened naturally.

And I also found the free sites far far better than paid ones for some unknown reason! After a couple of years of dating, I eventually met my BF (who is awesome) on tinder of all places!

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Adora10 · 29/03/2017 13:11

BadTaste puts it very well.

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IHeartDodo · 29/03/2017 13:05

BalloonSlayer that's what I was thinking...

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BadTasteFlump · 29/03/2017 13:04

Well he sounds a bit of a drama lama imo - is there any need for all his deep musings over what he is and isn't 'ready' for? What's wrong with going out for a drink and just seeing how it goes.

He sounds a bit self obsessed - and I also suspect there's some BS going on. He clearly is wanting to date or he wouldn't be on a dating site? Confused. So maybe until he finds someone who ticks all his boxes, he's trying to collect a few admirers to stroke his ego a bit?

I would drop him and concentrate on somebody who is looking for the same thing that you are.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 29/03/2017 13:02

It sounds to me like he likes you as a friend. You can't tell if there is any spark or sexual attraction for him or not. But he likes your company. Perhaps something will develop and perhaps not. But he's not ready so you can make a choice to wait and see or stop seeing him. However, if you do continue your friendship, be aware that he may only ever see you as a friend and eventually find a partner. Right now he sounds very confused and a bit lost. You could also deduce that as he's still looking he's not interested in you that way. Or maybe that he likes you too much to have a one night stand with you if that's what he's after.

This is all pure conjecture and I'm starting to sound like a teen agony aunt

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BalloonSlayer · 29/03/2017 12:48

I'd imagine he's hoping you'll offer FWB or just no-strings sex

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SodsLaw2017 · 29/03/2017 12:43

Thanks Orlando. I'm glad things worked out for you x

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