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Is there any way to make this work? Think my marriage is over :'(

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NameyMcChangerson · 16/10/2016 20:44

Apologies in advance for a long thread - everything is such a mess but I don't want to drip feed. I think my marriage is over, and I'm devastated.

Been with DH for eight years, married since 2011. We have a 2yo DC. We broke up briefly last year and I moved out with DC, but I moved back in and we've been trying to make things work.

The negatives

Things have always been a bit volatile between DH and me - we're both hot-tempered so lots of arguments. Verbal abuse from both sides, more from his initially but things devolved over the years; emotional abuse from his side, including horrendous threats when I'd just had the baby (having it taken off me, using his ££ to win custody and have me declared an unfit mother), calling me a dirty cunt etc.

We're from different cultures - I don't like his mum, whom we see every week, at all and there's a risk she'd end up living with us / expecting to live with us later in life. His younger (by one year) brother also has very mild learning difficulties (I suspect undiagnosed ASD also) and lives at home/doesn't work/doesn't leave the house. Again, I suspect later in life, he would want to come and live with us.

Mismatched sex drives - mine's always been higher, he's literally never (in eight years) brought me to climax Sad and now it's at the point where we've not slept together since I was pregnant. He tries to be affectionate, and I want to want him, but I don't. I get that things can't improve if I won't have him near me, but...I don't know. Sad We have separate bedrooms; I go to bed around 10pm (up around 6.30), he goes 4am (up around 12.30), although I get a lie-in on weekends.

I cheated on him last year. It's not an excuse, but I was massively ill with PND and I was targeted by someone who I thought was a friend. Turns out they weren't and I was being manipulated while vulnerable. It's the only time I've ever cheated on someone, but I know it's a shitty thing to have done.

I've recently got closer to someone I know from work. It's at imminent risk of turning into an emotional affair, although we've put the brakes on it because it's (see above) a shitty thing to do. It's really upset me, though - I'm lonely, and it's ridiculously hard to not want this colleague.

We don't share friends, interests or schedules - the whole permanent night shift thing means we can never have a day trip anywhere, for example, and I find that really hard.

The positives

DH and I have taken care of one another and been together a long time.

Over the last year, arguments have decreased - he's been working on his temper, as have I, and we do argue less.

He wants to work on things now and try spending more time together. With the now 2yo, family problems on my side etc., we've had less than a year since my brief move-out to try and sort things out. He's apologised for the shit he's pulled in the past (emotional abuse primarily) and outlined ways he wants to improve, and has improved.

He's honest and loyal, faithful and (outside of arguments, which are much less awful than in the past) respectful to me. He's doing more 'little things' for me lately and trying to be more thoughtful, communicative and considerate.

He pulls his weight in the house usually, and is relatively hands-on with DC.

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In a nutshell, I don't want this to be it but I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to destroy my DC's life and family. I'm terrified of not just being alone, but moving on from DH. But at the same time, we're more like friends now and I'm desperately lonely and upset.

Is it possible to come back from something like this? Is it possible to make a marriage like this work? And if leaving is the right decision, why am I so completely devastated? Despite our problems, he does care and I think he's a good person.

So sorry for the giant post - I'd appreciate any insight. Please be gentle.

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IreallyKNOWiamright · 17/10/2016 11:35

I think you need some counselling op. It sounds like you have had affairs to avoid issues you don't want to deal with. Getting validation from men will not sort out your problems with your dh. You will only be hurting yourself, your self esteem and setting a bad example to your child. Focus on a new future focusing on yourself not relationships because until you are happy with yourself you will always be seeking affairs as a justification to feel good.

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MatildaTheCat · 17/10/2016 10:03

You moved out last year but then moved back. Have you analysed that situation? Why you went, what it was like being separated, why you went back, what was the agreement between you and has any of that happened? Have any changes taken place....lots of questions that need answers.

I would suggest couples counselling to decide if there is anything to save and if not, how to make it a decent split. Not all marriages succeed and you've clearly had a lot of issues that make things harder.

No point in endlessly mulling over how miserable you all are and doing nothing to sort things out. Good luck.

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MidsummersNight · 17/10/2016 09:33

Doesn't like advice - gets thread deleted Hmm

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GinIsIn · 17/10/2016 09:29

Unless this man physically kidnapped you, yes you did choose to have an affair. You are responsible for your actions, nobody else. It doesn't really matter if he promised you the moon on a string - you chose to do it.

If your level of aggression here is you after you've been working at your temper for a year, I'm not really sure what you expect anyone to say. You and your husband are clearly not right for each other and clearly not happy.

You cannot stay married for your DC - what on earth to they gain from that? The shining example that marriage is something to be unhappily tolerated? The idea that partners in a marriage should have no respect for one another?

Yes your marriage is over. You need to accept that for all your sakes and move forward because a situation where both parents are volatile, distant and one is constantly on the brink of having an affair does not benefit your DC in any way.

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FRETGNIKCUF · 17/10/2016 09:24

It doesn't really matter who is at fault, and I am on your side, it's over.

You have every right to be fearful of how shit your life will continue to become and every right to be happy.

Leave.

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Myusernameismyusername · 17/10/2016 09:21

Argh terrible spelling

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Myusernameismyusername · 17/10/2016 09:20

You are looking for a way out of your marriage in another man I don't think that is very unclear here, and it isn't the most sensible of choices. Whether you were driven to do it out of a deep need for affection or manipulated into it you ultimately do not want your husband anymore, and despite it happening once before you are on the brink of it happening again. And if you try to remember how you felt last time you may well likely feel like that all over again.
I think the view that you have found hard to listen to is that you can decide not to become a victim of repeated patterns of destructive behaviour and abuse of men. You can leave. You can say no. By choosing not to say no, or walk away you have become trapped in a bubble of helpless victim-ness.
People are being harsh because they know from experience how hard it is to get out but a. It's not impossible b. No one else will comeback along and donit for you, no magic fixes here and c. It will make your life 100 better.
So instead of focusing on the past you need to change your future

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OzzieFem · 17/10/2016 09:10

OP, Have you considered counselling for yourself. It sounds like you may be suffering from some depression. Either way it may help you to reevaluate your current situation from a new perspective. Good luck. Flowers

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AbBanana · 17/10/2016 07:44

You've listed what your husband has done to improve the relationship in the past year. What steps have you taken? It read like you had an affair while he was making lots of improvements. And now you think you're about to start an emotional affair that will lead to a second one? Looks to me like you're sabotaging your relationship and putting your energy into finding someone new already.

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Ausernotanumber · 17/10/2016 07:34

Reasons. Yes.

Excuses. No.

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Mimpimbarneymcgrim · 16/10/2016 23:54

I am afraid you admitted to the C word OP as in cheating... on mumsnet there are no reasons, excuses, explanations for that allowed. They are very blinkered

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oleoleoleole · 16/10/2016 23:13

You sound like who I used to be.

I suffered severe and long lasting PND after 2nd DC and it is only with hindsight that I realised the reason for my PND was because I felt trapped.

We tried, relate, doing things for each other, sexually we were incompatible too. I was married unhappily for at least 8 out of the 11 years. Divorced when DC were 6 and 8. I should have done it sooner. They got used to having him round, he knew his days were numbered so became super dad which made our separation so much harder for them. If I had my time again I should have walked away after the birth of DC1.

I met my soulmate, we've been together 15 years and we still feel very lucky to have what we have after our first marriages (his was similar)

Ex H not a bad man, just not enough for me. Life is too short. Move on now whilst you can xx

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ThePinkOcelot · 16/10/2016 22:24

Namey, I was going to post a response, but seeing your attitude towards others who have responded in not going to bother. You wins your neck in!! You are so rude!

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 16/10/2016 22:14

You weren't manipulated or anything else. You need to own your own part in the cheating and take proper responsibilities

I agree.

You have one affair and bordering on another yet you say you want save your marriage Hmm

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ShebaShimmyShake · 16/10/2016 22:09

OP, the only reason I would suggest you own your part in the affair is because you will never change your life into the one you want unless you truly accept and realise that you do have the power to do so, and you are not passive. This realisation means owning that the affair did not happen to you (though it does not make you a bad person). And in turn, it also means that you can make other more positive changes to find your happiness. You are the mistress of your fate.

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unleashingtheflyingmonkeys · 16/10/2016 22:03

You don't get on with your MIL but you suspect she will move in later on in life, with your BIL with learning difficulties.

Your husband doesn't want a wife, he wants a carer, and I suspect this may be forward planning on his part.

You had the affair, whatever reasons behind it, you need to own that. He needs to own his part. And you both need to move on. If it keeps being brought up you'll get nowhere.

Seeing as the relationship with the ILs is dead, your relationship with your H is nearly dead, you have no sex life, you don't appear to want one with him, and you are building a relationship with another man, I'm not hopeful.

Only you can truly answer whether you want to save your marriage, strangers on a forum can give you points to think about but no more. You need to build a relationship with the ILS if they could potentially move in. Stop contact with emotional affair man, and make more effort with each other. If any of this seems to hard walk away. Ending your relationship doesn't end your family together, it takes a different shape in two different homes.

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FlabulousChic · 16/10/2016 22:00

Sounds a real shit relationship to bring a child up in. Letting them see that what you have is all they should aspire to have. Sex starts a long time outside the bedroom you have nothing out of it ergo you aren't going to have a relationship in it. It's doomed why waste more if your life get out whilst you can

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Wdigin2this · 16/10/2016 21:54

Well, even if he was the man of my dreams, and I loved him dearly....I wouldn't stay if there was a good chance that a MIL and BIL, whom I didn't like/respect/get on with, would be moving in! No way!

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PoldarksBreeches · 16/10/2016 21:47

I really fucking hate it when posters come on here describing shitty awful marriages with kids stuck in the middle, and say they don't want to wreck their kids' lives by splitting up.
Ffs, parents splitting up doesn't wreck kids lives. Parents being twats about splitting up can do, but that's up to you. Respectful separation and decent cooperative coparenting is perfectly able to provide kids with a happy and stable life.

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CoolCarrie · 16/10/2016 21:46

Leave him and move on with your life. You don't have to live like this, especially if you can see the kind of life you will have when the in laws move in with you. Life is too short for both of you to continue like this.

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LHReturns · 16/10/2016 21:37

OP, as User has been in a similar position - maybe it would be worth now asking for her advice on your options now?

I understand that you don't like her approach to what has passed, but I reckon she may have some very good thoughts about what happens next.

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Ausernotanumber · 16/10/2016 21:35

Look. You had an affair. A physical one. And now an emotional one.

The responsibility lies with you for that and not anyone else. Or anything else be that PND or a man with a golden cock.

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NameyMcChangerson · 16/10/2016 21:34

DorindaJ Thanks for your post - I think you might be right.

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NameyMcChangerson · 16/10/2016 21:34

I've asked for this thread to be deleted. Obviously I've got it wrong posting on here - I'm not sure how to respond without coming off as 'attitude-y' or 'looking for a fight'. I'm not trying to be either, I'm just gutted and was looking for advice.

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NameyMcChangerson · 16/10/2016 21:33

Ausernotanumber

I've been there. In the shitty relationship and had an affair. And I will bet my last jelly baby mike was worse than yours. But so what ? I had PND. I had depression. It's all a load of whoey.

You haven't been there. I don't honestly know what else to say. You've not been where I am, and you don't know what happened. I'm looking for input on my current situation, not opinions on my past. Telling someone to 'own their shit' seems pretty bloody aggressive to me - I was responding in kind to your repeated, aggro assertions that 1) you know how it is and 2) I'm not 'owning my shit'.

Can you just leave it?

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