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Feeling panicky and sick

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wannabfree · 07/09/2016 23:29

Hi I just need to talk to someone. I posted a couple of weeks ago about my H and what i suspected was emotional abuse and I am so grateful for the support I got. Today there was an incident, our cat who is old and frail and is always getting up on the table if we leave food out, had a go at H's burger which he left while he was out of the room. When he found out he blew up and I heard it all unfolding from where I was upstairs. Our dd was begging him not to hurt the cat (who she adores). When I got downstairs dd was crying and said that he had picked the cat up by the throat, growled at it and thrown it out into the garden. He immediately denied it, said that dd was being dramatic and he'd done it gently. Dd wouldn't back down and H started getting angry with her saying she owed HIM an apology. He kept looking at me expecting me to back him up but I didn't. I wasn't brave enough to outright challenge him but my silence that said I didn't believe him was enough to piss him off. The thing is I've seen him be violent with the cat before, kicking her and throwing her when she gets in his way.

He announced soon after that he was going for a walk and his attitude is that he's the victim. It's now 11:30 and he just came home after nearly 3 hours and I can feel the tension in the house. He just about pulled the blinds off the window just now. I feel physically sick when I think of how to leave. I know I'm going to but I don't know what to say to him. I have to go away for work tomorrow for 2 nights so my plan is to meet with WA next week and make my leaving plan. So I just need to find a way to calm the panic for now. So wound up I can't sleep.

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theansweris42 · 20/09/2016 09:28

I think it's part of the script too. And just ugh. Treating you so badly, scaring and dominating his family and then being pseudo contrite and getting into your space with hugs and underhanded pressure with"niceness" for you to back down.
Try to be objective. Don't minimise the things he's done and said.
Is his current personal his real self? Will he remain this way? No.
Remember that panicky sick feeling, the feeling of oppression and fear. You don't need that in your life. More Flowers for you.

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PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 20/09/2016 07:13

You know how we're always saying things like "Don't stay together for the sake of the children. Separate for the sake of the children"? And "What happens when DC get old enough to sass back - how's he going to take it?"

Your post should be a sticky at the top of the board for all the other abusees to see how their life is going to go.

I know you say your spirit isn't broken (which, btw, I dispute) but he's breaking his children's spirits every day. Isn't that enough?

You've read Lundy. You know this nice stuff is just an act. You know he's not going to change.

Get whatever practical support you can together and make him leave the house. Do it today.

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Lunar1 · 20/09/2016 06:27

Be careful, he won't change and as soon as he realises you are serious the nasty was will start again.

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cariboo · 20/09/2016 06:06

Please get help now! He is dangerous and you need to be safe, fast. All of you. Find a solicitor; he or she can put a restraining order on your husband. Do not confront him, or tell him of your plans.

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KoalaDownUnder · 20/09/2016 05:40

Please get legal advice and some ongoing counselling or psych support. You really, really need someone on your 'side' in this. Someone neutral.

He is going to gaslight you and manipulate you and all the rest of it. That's how people with his personality type work.

OP, I grew up with a father exactly like this. Your last couple of posts made me cry. You could have been describing my dad. Impatient and cruel to his children, his wife, even the pets. It really affected my adult relationships.

Please, I know it's really hard and confusing for you at the moment, but please don't let your children grow up being treated like that.

He is not all bad; hardly anyone is. Don't be emtionally blackmailed by him being contrite. He probably does love you, and I'm sure he loves his children, in his own way, but its not enough. They will be emotionally scarred by living with someone this volatile.

Flowers for you.

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Penfold007 · 20/09/2016 04:59

He's following the classic script. You need urgent legal advice. You have got to make your children safe and at the moment they are not safe. As said up thread stop delaying and take action, get a solicitors appointment today. He knows it's gone pear shaped and is at his most dangerous.

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wannabfree · 20/09/2016 04:25

Thanks answer. Things have been happening. I finally broke down and told my parents everything. They were shocked at the level of things but not surprised. It sends everyone in my family has suspected my unhappiness and don't think much of H. I wanted to avoid talking to H and get stone kind of professional help/advice but he was like a dog with a bone and kept asking what was going on until I said I was unhappy with the anger and aggression and talked about the kids. Folks him I though we shouldn't be together. At first he was defensive but finally he agreed with me and he started crying and apologising and promising to get help. Ever since he has been super wonderful father and husband and has made an appointment to see a counsellor tomorrow. He keeps asking me to tell him if there's any hope for us and he comes with big sad expression and wants to hug me and be affectionate. I had to tell him to back off because it was just too much. He backed off a little but still keeps hugging me. Thing is now I feel like if i end it I will be the bad guy breaking up the family.

I'm very confused. I how he's really going to change, for the kids' sake. Not sure what to do now.

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theansweris42 · 17/09/2016 13:55

Hope you're ok OP

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EttaJ · 12/09/2016 02:44

Jesus. He's evil. Get out and get that poor cat and your DC away from him. I agree re disappearing the cat ASAP and then follow. I fucking hate "men" like that.

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MistressDeeCee · 12/09/2016 02:10

I agree with Restless Traveller

I know its hard, but please stop even thinking about confronting him. He is violent to your cat and he is making your DD feel like shit... poor girl, the horrid childhood memories he is creating for her. & then there's you. Get legal and financial advice and just go when he's out, get to a relative a good friend, WA, anywhere you can be safe. Its just not worth being around such a person any longer - for what? He is what he is, a cruel unkind man who is ruining your family life..

I can't imagine any confrontation scene going well and I do not think you should put yourself and your DCs through it, nor spend time focusing and planning how you are going to confront him. I wouldn't put it past him to kill your cat and possibly harm you and DD if you do so

It will be hard to get up and leave, but harder to sit down and stay

Just go

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tipsytrifle · 12/09/2016 00:49

"just to keep as even a keel as possible" - obviously *d'oh

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tipsytrifle · 12/09/2016 00:47

I'd consider playing down cat's absence too. They wander off for a week at times, eh? Especially with the heatwave for this week predicted. Just to keep an even keel as possible all round. You and dc should not be far behind at all. Really. Get cat out (your practice run) but do NOT sit back and sigh relief. Don't do that til you and dd are out. ASAP. Be the fearless and confident Self that is still You.

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RestlessTraveller · 11/09/2016 23:52

You need to get out now. Please stop puss-footing around and get you, your kids and your cat out of there before someone gets hurt.

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wannabfree · 11/09/2016 20:18

Shayelle, it sort of happens in peaks and troughs and has changed over the years. When it was just me and him it was all directed at me, once the kids came along and as our DD has gotten older he has turned it more and more on them. I think it's easier to "get away with" controlling your children because you can call it being strict or discipline.

My spirit isn't broken, although I'm not the fearless, confident young woman he met. I doubt myself and question myself a lot more. One thing I'm looking forward to is getting some of that back. I hope I can.

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Shayelle · 11/09/2016 17:29

Gosh yes i remember your previous post. You poor thing, you've had years of it. He hasnt broken your spirit though has he Smile x

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Shayelle · 11/09/2016 17:24

Has he always been like this or only recently??

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Shayelle · 11/09/2016 17:23

Poor you op what a horrible situation to be in. Wishing you luck xx

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12purpleapples · 11/09/2016 15:04

Good luck with getting out of the house and making your arrangements Flowers

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rememberthetime · 11/09/2016 14:17

Just do things step by step. Bear in mind that he will twig something is up as soon as the cat goes.
First step - sort the cat. Next step contact CAB, Womens Aid and a solcitor. Then find a rental and get the ball rolling on that. Your work will fall into place.
Good luck. Step by step - don't think too far ahead or you will stop at step one.

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wannabfree · 11/09/2016 11:02

Thanks everyone, you are a life line for me. I decided to avoid any confrontation last night, it was just too tense. This morning he barged into the bedroom early (we don't sleep together anymore) opening curtains and started noisily showering and getting dressed - one of his things that he does, stops me ever having any kind of lie in, even if I've been working late or am ill. He's letting me know he's still pissed off and I'm not going to poke the bear.

tipsbytrifle I have spoken to WA once, just getting it out of my head, but I intend calling them this week for some more practical advice on what to do next. I have already spoken to my aunt and she's happy to take the cat so that will happen probably tomorrow. I doubt he'll even notice the cat isn't here, at least for awhile anyway.

trancer, I do have some savings, not a fortune but enough to keep us going. I just need to figure out the best way to bring my work along (I work out of our home) so I can continue making money and support us. Lots of little details like that to work out.

I would love it if we could stay and he would go. Then there wouldn't be so much of an upheaval.

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JustGettingStarted · 11/09/2016 06:46

I hope you can get yourself, your children, and your cat away from him soon.

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trancer · 11/09/2016 00:57

God OP, what an absolute wanker he is. You're doing the right thing talking to your DD and gently letting her know that you have her back.

Don't confront him. Just play the game for now, say what he wants you to say, and the first opportunity you get, ring WA and start making a plan. What's your financial situation like? Do you have access to savings etc? Have you anywhere you can go?

Get the cat fostered, that's one major thing you don't have to worry about. Then WA will help you figure out how you are going to get out.

Sending you strength, leaving is hard, but nowhere near as hard as staying. You can do this.

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tipsytrifle · 11/09/2016 00:37

I doubt that confrontation is the way to go atm btw - because that's a declaration of war. Get some outside legal help and some talk with WA going as a priority. Yes, you need a plan.

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tipsytrifle · 11/09/2016 00:35

This sounds utterly horrific. I think cat should be the first escapee. Then when you have felt your own strength rescuing one you can rescue the next two. You and DD. She will not be heartbroken but relieved to see an escape is do-able and that you have control?

I think he is likely to escalate in a volatile sort of way because such people are very sensitive to shifts in the power balance, to a flick of the reins that didn't quite go as expected. This situation is really, really bad. Not far off being dangerous, I suspect. You and DD should be out of there asap. Have you thought of contacting women's aid? I think their number is in one of the links at the top of this board?

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PelvicFloorClenchReminder · 10/09/2016 22:57

Flowers for you and your DC , hope you're all ok.

What a vile, vile excuse for a man

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