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DH doesn't know what he wants

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ThePinkCat · 20/08/2016 00:32

DH and I split just over 2 months ago. We had been together for 10 years, married for 6 and three young DC. It was completely out of the blue and I was devastated. He was with someone else and living with her less than 2 weeks later.... introduced DC to her etc (against my wishes).

We continued to text and he has spent weeks telling me how he loves me, he wishes it was me that was there, he made a massive mistake blah blah blah. Last week he told me he had ended it with her and she had moved out. (He has told me at least once or twice a week for 4 weeks before this of massive arguments they constantly have) so this week I agreed we could give it another go now that she was out of the picture. Maybe get our marriage back on track.

I stayed at his after work on wednesday (felt extremely awkward because that's the place they shared together). He has been telling his family and friends we were back together and that we were looking to get a new home together.

Then suddenly she is back at his (which I only found out about through a third party) so obviously I'm left feeling pretty hurt... and now all he can say is 'I don't know what I want' and that I need to give him time to figure it out.

I feel like I've been played a treat. And I keep going back. He won't answer me when I ask why he'd do that to me. I spent the week asking him if he was sure this is what he wants. Gave him every opportunity to back out and all he ever said was I love you, I want our family back together, I want our marriage to work out. I feel like crying. And then sending her all the messages he has sent me. But where would that get me?
I'm pretty sure It won't make me feel any better.

Don't know where I go from here Sad

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adora1 · 22/08/2016 12:37

You really need to take control OP, he is playing you good and proper, is he really Brad Pitt, if not, why are you degrading yourself like this - he must be loving it, well it sounds like he is and that shows him out to be a right horrible nasty prick - stop accepting his crumbs, pat yourself down and value yourself - he's not the only man on the planet. You are actually encouraging his shit behaviour by accepting it and jumping every time he shouts, just stop it now, you know that will just make you more miserable. Have time away from him, stop sleeping with him and take your time to decide what YOU want.

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BabooshkaKate · 22/08/2016 09:41

Do not play the pick me game. His tortured woe is me act is bollocks.

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SandyY2K · 21/08/2016 10:58

As another poster said, if he wasn't attracted to you, he wouldn't have had sex with you the other night.

He's simply trying to make excuses for his shitty behaviour. It's what cheaters do to try and justify their affairs.

The 180 (link below) is designed to help you move forward and have a good life without your cheating spouse.

healinginfidelity.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/the-180-for-unfaithful-spouse.html?m=1

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magoria · 21/08/2016 10:38

It is bullshit to make you feel like the bad person.

He was 'attracted' enough to you the other night to fuck you in their bed.

He just wants what he wants and is coming out with shit to justify it.

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ravenmum · 21/08/2016 08:54

It is not a competition!
Saying "I love you but ..." is line 1 of the Script for several reasons.

First, it shows what a great, loving guy he is. He doesn't fancy you / is no longer in love with you / just sees you as a sister (as applicable), but he has such a big heart and is SOoo kind and generally great that he can't bring himself to chuck you -like he would if it didn't make him look so dammed bad-.

Secondly it makes it all about the dull, boring, mumsy wife who is just not pretty/exciting/sexy/flexible enough to please a sex god like him. He's put up with it for so long but finally something has snapped, poor lad, who can blame him etc.

In reality you were just fine together until a new, shiny toy came along.

Thirdly it leaves you wondering what you have done wrong instead of looking at what he has done wrong. As a result you do not just chuck him out in disgust, and he gets to try it out with OW but leaving open the option of a return if it doesn't work out.

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mostlyslowly · 21/08/2016 08:42

Three children in 5 years and he doesn't think you have the same figure and sex appeal as previously? No shit, Sherlock! You are not in the wrong here, put yourself and your children first, seek legal advice and stand tall. On your own will be tough, but better than having that fear playing in your head every time he's not there. Oh, and take him for everything you need for yourself and the children.

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Resilience16 · 21/08/2016 08:29

Oh PinkCat,please don't believe his bullshit. Saying he doesn't fancy you, after fucking you this week? Please!
What he is trying to do is make you feel bad, and make you feel like it's your fault he's shagging someone else. Minimising his behaviour and trying to blame you. He is also laying the groundwork so that if he does decide to get back together with you, you feel suitable grateful.
What a nasty little shit.
I really am sorry you are in this situation, but big girl panties on. Go get some legal advice and start planning for a better future without him.
Big hug for you.

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sentia · 20/08/2016 22:56

If he is genuinely so shallow that he's left you because you have a normal post-children body, he will leave the OW for similar reasons at some point, and then the next OW and the next.

And it will get sadder and more pathetic as he gets older and older and he still fails to realise that women are not merely decorative trinkets for men to play with.

It's a really shitty situation but better that you find this out now while you still have a lot of life left to live. He's showing you who he really is.

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SandyY2K · 20/08/2016 22:55

Well trashy OW hasn't had 3 kids in 5 years had she.

A size 14 isn't letting yourself go, while you've been pregnant 3 times and then breastfeeding and being a mum surviving on little sleep.

You shouldn't have to compete for your husband. Give him the gift of freedom and concentrate on yourself and your children.

If he doesn't have the sense to realise the impact of these close pregnancies on your body, he's an idiot. He'll be back when the affair bubble bursts, just don't be the warn spot and soft landing for him.

You deserve better than him.

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Lweji · 20/08/2016 22:41

You can't possibly compete because it is not a competition.
Do not try to enter it.
It's just his messed up head.

When you love someone you don't stop being attracted because of fat, or anything.
And if he was only attracted to you physically, then you're well rid.

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Kr1stina · 20/08/2016 22:37

Please believe me, it's NOTHING to do with our flabby tummy, really it's not.

It's about him and his MASSIVE sense of entitlement.

It's not your fault .

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Joysmum · 20/08/2016 22:33

Compete?

Look love, I'm fat and in my mid 40's and never been a looker. I've never had to 'compete' as my DH loves me.

Likewise the other way around. DH has never had to worry about me looking elsewhere because no man come close to being as amazing as he is. That's not dependent on his size or looks.

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tribpot · 20/08/2016 22:32

I don't see how I can possibly compete.

Depends whether you think the lifelong commitment of married partners is based on both of them retaining their original measurements. If you think it might be somewhat more substantial than that (and it's certainly not clear he does) this is a red herring.

he says he loves me but he's not attracted to me anymore

He's saying any old shite to keep you on the hook and feeling that the split is your fault. Giving himself maximum power in the relationship and making sure you feel so pathetically grateful if he chooses you despite your change in body shape that you won't challenge him too closely when he has unexplained absences in the future. Win-win. (For him).

Stop letting him into the house so he can fuck with your head some more. He's said he wants space, give it to him. Business-like handovers and no discussion about his Almighty Feelings and how they must be Respected and Examined at Length. Bollocks to him.

Please do consider a STI check.

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CodyKing · 20/08/2016 22:28

Can't compete? On what level?

You are who you are from the experiences and life you've led -

It doesn't matter one bit what shape or size you are but how you work together to be a strong unit for you children to feel safe and happy - to be a team

Sorry but you haven't changed because of a few pounds - he however is - why are you believing this crap?

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ThePinkCat · 20/08/2016 22:10

Youngest is breastfeeding and all she wants to do is feed and sleep, hence her staying with me. It wasn't a cop out.

He came in when he dropped the DC back home. Long and short of it is he says he loves me but he's not attracted to me anymore Sad I have let myself go a bit I would be the first to admit but I've had three babies in the space of five years and found it really hard to lose that last bit of weight. I've tried literally everything. He's not the man I fell in love with anymore as one of you said but neither am I the woman he fell in love with and as shallow as he may be for saying it I can't help but think he's right.

She is a size 10 to my 14, petite frame, no stretch marks, no flabby loose stomach. I don't see how I can possibly compete.

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Anicechocolatecake · 20/08/2016 13:34

You know when he first left you something had been going on with him and the ow for a lot longer than 2 weeks, right? I'd vet they were together for months before he left you.
It sounds like reality was a bit of a shock and their relationship was much more volatile than he'd anticipated, hence him suddenly wanting what he no longer had, I. E you.
Now she's begged him back so there he is. Sooner or later they'll break up again and he'll be trying to win you back all over again. He'll be crying and sorry and pleading.

He doesn't want to be with you. Hr wants this other woman, but the fantasy of that. Please retain your dignity and walk away. It's very sad for you but what you had is over and he isn't who you thought he was. He's a cheat and a coward. You deserve better

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twocultures · 20/08/2016 13:21

Lots of good advice on here Op.
Just remember your worth do you think he would be sticking around for you if you told him you can't make your mind up between him and someone else? And kept changing your mind?

If he loves you and if you are to have a future long term you need to be his no 1 choice and priority NOT AN OPTION TO HIM.

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CodyKing · 20/08/2016 12:59

I also see him realising the downsides to splitting

For example the children to house the way he was looked after etc - it's a cold hard look V exciting new woman - it doesn't add up what's he's lost v what he's gained

And he wants both

Have more self respect and ditch him - think about what's best for you and your kids -

Set a timescale - ie you won't go back or have him back till 6 months has passed and stick too it - then reevaluate.

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MagicalMrsMistoffelees · 20/08/2016 12:56

And having the new woman around the children is insane! Unforgivable especially if he's as confooooosed as he claims.

It's one thing dangling your wife on a 'might come back, might not' string (she's an adult and can tell him to fuck off) but quite another playing out different family scenarios with your children (they have no choice and can't tell him to fuck off - yet!). Ugh, yuk, what a wanker!

He is NOT a good father now no matter how good he was in the past. That man has gone for good.

And so what if a child is ill? He is the father and should be looking after them during his contact time. What a dick-wad.

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MagicalMrsMistoffelees · 20/08/2016 12:48

Of course you want this relationship back. You've been together a long time, he's the father of your children, you have a lot of shared history. You're stunned how he's changed and bereft that the man you knew could behave like this. You never wanted to be a single mother to three children and now you're on your own with them and the house whilst he's off with his new woman without cares or responsibilities and behaving like he's 21 again.

You're desperate to understand what's going on, what he's thinking and why he's behaving like this. How can he be so cruel? How can he leave his family?

The answer is actually fairly simple. He was happy with you and the children, life was good - but his head was turned by another woman and he made the mistake of following through and got involved with her. Then he was hooked by the excitement and newness and feeling like he's so desirable and now he's addicted - not to her, she's not his soulmate or anything special - but to the situation. Yet, despite his hormones loving it all and enabling him to leave his family, his brain just about still recognises what a fool he's being. He knows you were happy and that life in your house with you and the children was good - and so he keeps telling you he loves you and let's try again whilst simultaneously arguing with the new woman and telling her he's not sure he can go through with it all. So he then decides to see if he can still get you back if he wants and when he knows he easily can he's then tempted back by the excitement of the new woman and suddenly HE'S CONFUSED AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE WANTS. This cycle could go on and on and on and on. Seriously, this could play out over years.

It is a horrible, horrible game to be caught up in. So opt out. Refuse to be a part of it all. Remember if you decide to bin him then this is the worst you are going to feel - the healing can then begin.

Yes he'll keep coming back. He'll beg for another chance. But you have to decide if this is the role you want for yourself - a pawn in his stupid ego games. I know it's hard but don't engage with him anymore on an emotional level. He's made his bed - now let him lie in it. Show him you don't need him and that you're perfectly capable of getting on just fine without him but make sure he pulls his weight with the children. Suddenly it won't be an act anymore - you really will be stronger, happier and life will be good again. Good luck. Flowers

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Lweji · 20/08/2016 12:47

He has the two older DC today (youngest is unwell so at home with me)

An incredible father would be at home caring for the unwell child.
That's what you demand of him. His parent time is 100%, in sickness or health.

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TondelayaDellaVentamiglia · 20/08/2016 12:43

for god's sake...he is NOT an incredible father

and incredible father would not fuck about with other woman whilst dangling the mother of his children on a string

you do not have to save face by boosting him up...he is a philandering prick who has children the sooner you accept that the sooner you stop putting yourself down and start realising this is all his problem.

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ThePinkCat · 20/08/2016 12:38

I do care though. He has the two older DC today (youngest is unwell so at home with me). He is playing happy families with her and my babies and it kills me. A few days ago I thought we had a future together.

Is there anything I can do to stop her seeing them or do I have to suck it up?

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ImperialBlether · 20/08/2016 12:19

The thing is that unless you keep that thought at the front of your mind, you'll end up repeating this cycle.

He thinks he's a prize to be fought over. She's confirming this. Now you need to knock it on the head. Tell him you don't even like him any more, never mind love him. Tell him he's not the man you thought he was. He's not, is he? Tell him you don't care who he's with now - you don't want him and you're moving on.

It'll be a punch in the gut for him, but that's what he needs. And don't ever go back. Don't ever forget what he's done.

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