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Relationship becoming ever more complicated, not sure who is wrong

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BristolPistol · 20/06/2016 09:44

Apologies in advance for the wall of text.

My OH and I have been together for literally 3 years last week. Our start was a bit all over the place - we met, fell in love fast. I was not long out of a 6 year relationship. (I moved to our city for me, however, not for him). I was studying and freelancing so was quite well paid, able to rent my own studio flat. I kept that for 6 months before moving in with him and his mother/dog/child while we looked for a place of our own. YES, I KNOW. I'M AN IDIOT AND ALL THE SIGNS WERE THERE THAT THIS MAN IS INCAPABLE OF RUNNING HIS OWN LIFE.

Things are ok for a time, then get pretty tense. I was made redundant from my well-paid job; this meant that it was either give up uni, or give up hopes of being with him. I chose to give up uni and get a job. I've worked hard on my career and I'm in a great job, though far from what I want to be doing with my life to be honest. I'm lucky though, I get that.

We finally, after a year of hunting, find somewhere to move to (Bristol is almost as brutal as London). he finally gets a job he promises he can stick out.

Now, his job offers a perk where you can leave early some days if they calculate the staff rota'd in will be too much for the day's workload. In 6 months, my boyfriend did not do a full week. Of course, he managed to get sacked. His answer, as always, is that he hates working in cal centres, he's sorry, he'll do something different. This was back in October.

I work in retail, so luckily for us, it was a time when I was going to be working 60 odd hours a week anyway - we could cope til he found a new job.

Which happened in March. And now again in June. The job he's in now, tbf, is a kitchen position. I trust that it's a better fit for him.

However, also luckily, a new company website meant I continued doing 6 days weeks, of upwards of 50 hours minimum a week.

I was bone tired, depressed, knew my OH was lying about going into work on some days. I was physically and emotiuonally exhausted. His drinking was out of control again (he managed to quit for three weeks) and has led him to decisions and treatment I'm not... appreciative of.

Now, in three years with this man, I've paid for hte bulk of our social life. I've been the one single handedly supporting his son in our end of that parenting nargain. And over the past few weeks, he's gotten more and more upset that the intimacy is gone.

WELL DUH. YOU LET ME FUCKING SLAVE MYSELF TO THE BONE FOR YOU AND CARRIED ON LYING, DRINKING AND SPENDING MY MONEY.

He's trying to make out that the most important thing in our relationship is sex - mainly, I suspect, because he's awkward, has only had one LTR before (oh, yeah, the mother of his child, who is still - STILL - married to) and it's important for him in order to feel loved and attractive. Our sex life has definitely dwindled - for a couple of months, that's all - while I struggle with dealing with him, but the intimacy has not. Over the last few weeks he's repeatedly brought this up, and has not added some new accusations about his son and the way I treat hime (I apparently care too little, whilst also caring so much that I'm destroying our relationship). I lost it yesterday. After being accused of all that and he greets me in the morning like fuck all is wrong, I told him to do one and left for a while. Cue accusations about how I'm like my (narcissist, abusive, demon bitch of a mother who he has never met and who has left me with a crippling eating disorder and physical and mental scars).

We tried to talk later - sat in different rooms, via text/whatsapp. His pattern was to switch between "I feel unloved cos you don't have enough sex with me" - which, by the way, he wants to be all kinky sex (which I enjoy, but I'd also like some vanilla from time to time, fgs) so I apparently don't even get a say; and switching between over the top statements like "I'm so worthless I should just die better for you and [son] :) x"

I'm not being crazy, right? I don't deserve to be dealing with all this shit and then getting called all sorts because my fucking idiot manchild can't understand THAT HE'S DESTROYED ALL OUR INTIMACY?

I'm fucking gutted.

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BristolPistol · 21/06/2016 13:33

Thanks everyone.

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pictish · 21/06/2016 10:34

I can only echo everyone else - it's obvious that it's time for you to move on from this selfish, irresponsible and demanding man.
You don't need it.

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KittensandKnitting · 21/06/2016 10:27

I would also argue he is not a good father, seeing a child and being a good parent are two very very different things. He doesn't sound like he has a responsible bone in his body.

Get out and get happy

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KittensandKnitting · 21/06/2016 10:26

His happiness is not your responsibility
His mothers happiness is not your responsibility

Whilst you have a relationship with his child (and this does become complicated for me as my children are technically step children but live with us 100% of the time so I am their mother) his child happiness is not your responsibility as he has a loving mother who he lives with and a grandmother who his father can live with its not different than what happened before.

It's very difficult when a step-child is involved because you have I'm sure built up a bond so it will be down to you and his father if you are to still stay in contact with that child.

This man has been with you for three years and isn't even divorced.
You have been providing for him and now you need his support he is pissing you about

You need to end this relationship because the only persons happiness you are responsible for is your own.

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BeckywiththeGoodHare · 21/06/2016 10:23

Don't get this thread deleted, though - take the exasperated head-wobbling for what it is, but more importantly, keep this for when you need a reminder of how unacceptable and non-normal his behaviour is. Because it's not normal, and you don't have to accept it.

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purits · 21/06/2016 10:16

I've lost count of the times shitty men are labelled 'amazing dads' on here.

Totally. Funny how they can turn it on for the DC but not for the woman in their life.
OP: you said "Relationship becoming ever more complicated, not sure who is wrong" It's not a matter of who is wrong. The relationship is not working; no need to blame anyone. Accept that the relationship does not work and move on.
And stop being an enabler, get yourself a nice bloke.

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CuttedUpPear · 21/06/2016 09:55

I've lost count of the times shitty men are labelled 'amazing dads' on here.
He's not amazing. He's a role model for your children and they will pick up on how you should be treated from his example.

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DeathStare · 21/06/2016 06:51

Stop focusing about whether you were stupid to ignore warning signs. What's done is done and you can't change that.

Leave him. He does nothing for you and is selfish and manipulative. That is not going to change.

And yes just chuck him out on the street. I suspect your OH's mother will take them back in.

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Iflyaway · 20/06/2016 23:11

Why can't I turn down someone who needs rescuing? sad

Turn it around. Why do you get together with someone who thinks he needs rescuing? What is it in you to want to get together with these kinds of men....

Better to "kick them to the kerb" and "rescue" yourself. out of these enmeshed relationships

You know they are never really going to be there for you, don't you?

An independent life is great, take it from me.... freedom to live your life how you want

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EttaJ · 20/06/2016 22:44

Run and never look back.

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Nobloodynamesleft · 20/06/2016 22:27

Yes, the shame is all his. You couldn't have done more for him. Don't beat yourself up; just toughen up and put yourself first Flowers

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RedMapleLeaf · 20/06/2016 22:12

Not in my early 20s, but maybe just never got out of the mindset? I have a lot to think about, and I think that's where this feeling of stupidity/shame is coming from

I think that a lot of our processes come from much younger than our twenties. You repeatedly call yourself stupid. I wonder where this shame comes from Flowers

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Nobloodynamesleft · 20/06/2016 18:59

Aim higher and look after yourself. Life doesn't need to be this much of a struggle. You've taken on way too much and he's using you. Not nice.

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HisNameWasPrinceAndHeWasFunky · 20/06/2016 18:49

You can only rescue yourself.
Get rid asap.

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BristolPistol · 20/06/2016 18:39

Too much of a rescuer!

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BristolPistol · 20/06/2016 18:38

I believe I am probably too old for this shit; just desperately wanted to prevent any more upheaval. Not in my early 20s, but maybe just never got out of the mindset? I have a lot to think about, and I think that's where this feeling of stupidity/shame is coming from. I was trying to do the right thing I spose.

Should note OH is an amazing dad, doesn't drink or act like this in front of him, they're incredibly close. It's just when it comes to me apparently.

Definitely going to try and get some counselling. I know I need it.

Thanks ladies.

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Nobloodynamesleft · 20/06/2016 18:33

You're not stupid. Are you quite young? I didn't mean to sound mean, just that you have a choice and you can choose to walk away. I had the shitty boyfriend when I was 21. Took me two years of being with him to leave. That's why I just advise you to not waste any more of your life. Wish I had mn back then.

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BristolPistol · 20/06/2016 18:17

I made a commitment to his son when I/we rented a house for him, but I see what you mean. Get the rest of your points though Rabbit.

I'm going to request this thread be deleted - not because I don't need to hear what you lot have to say, but I've heard it, and tbh I don't think I need to hear any more. It's pretty grim and I feel like I'm just stupid stupid stupid.

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/06/2016 17:51

Can he screw up your ability to save by not working?

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/06/2016 17:49

No, you didn't make a commitment to his son. You are not married to his dad. The boy does not live in your house. You are his dad's girlfriend, you see him a lot and you are friends, which is lovely. You are not his mother. He has a mother.

His dad drinks, his dad can't hold down a job, his dad doesn't even look after him during "contact", he leaves it to his girlfriend and even his own mother has had enough of his shit.

Honestly, the lad is better off being with his mum 100% of the time.

You are doing the boy no favours by showing him that if he behaves like his dad he gets everything done for him, if he is smart enough to have a child to trap the woman first.

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BristolPistol · 20/06/2016 17:49

I just feel so stupid. Urgh.

It's time to start looking/saving up for a new place.

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Nobloodynamesleft · 20/06/2016 17:30

Seriously. You have actually chosen this life for yourself? You're not married, have no dc together, do not own property together. You can end this now.

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BristolPistol · 20/06/2016 17:20

Renting (thankfully, at least it will be a lot easier to get out of). Both our names.

I've known and loved his child for three years, I just didn't want to end things before I knew they were completely irreparable. I made a commitment to him as well, you know what I mean?

His mum has already put up with enough; she's done her house up recently just for her and I feel awful about potentially just fucking her life up again, even though I know it's not my fault. I know she's kick his arse if she knew how shitty he was being. I know he doesn't mean it, but it still isn't acceptable.

Thanks for the input everyone.

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/06/2016 17:17

Your partner's son lives with his mum so he's fine. Contact can happen at grandmas house. If you wanted, you could stay in contact with him yourself, although that could be confusing for everyone.

What's your current housing situation? Rent? Mortgage? In whose name?

As for the sex, well, by being a big dick he has put you off his little dick.

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RedMapleLeaf · 20/06/2016 16:55

Why would you not ask his mum to have him?

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