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Possibly caught DH in a lie... what next?

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Sweetlittleevilme · 04/06/2016 20:52

First time poster, long time lurker. Would really appreciate any advice as I don't know what to think and have no-one I can talk to. Sorry that this may be a bit long.

Been married to my H for 3 years, together for 7. No kids. We've been going through a rocky patch lately. He's been away a lot trying to start a new business; although I am trying to be as supportive as possible (giving advice, sourcing stock, helping him renovate the premises etc), it does feel as if I have slipped down his list of priorities. I know that's inevitable to an extent, but it got to the point where I felt I didn't matter to him at all (case in point: he asked me to come and meet his new business partner (who is now one of his closest friends - let's call him Ed) in the pub for drinks one weekend evening; I'm not the most sociable of people - very, very shy - but I got dressed up, made the effort and thought it was going well until H took me to one side after an hour and asked me to go home so they could carry on talking about the business).

Anyway, about a month ago things came to a head (H stayed out all night taking coke, something he'd never done since being with me) and we had a huge row. I said some things I'm not proud of and dredged up a lot of stuff from the past that I thought we'd put behind us. I am ashamed of this, but I also made a dig about me being the main breadwinner (he has been fired from four jobs in the last three years), which is something I knew he was particularly sensitive about. Since then, on the surface we've been ok but there has been a lot of sadness between us.

Anyway, on Thursday afternoon he told me he had to go to another town for a business meeting. I spoke to him by phone a few hours later and he said it was going well. After the call, I texted him with times for the last train home and went to bed. I tried to ring him after the last train should have departed to check he made it (in case I needed to go out and pick him up) and he didn't answer. Then at about 1.30am I got a text from him saying he was back in our home town and in a club with Ed (somewhere they go regularly) because Ed wanted to know how the business meeting had gone.

I then didn't hear anything more from him until 9.30am the next morning, when I rang him to find out where he was. He told me he got drunk and stayed at Ed's house (Ed lives about 10 minutes' walk away) and that he'd be home soon. He was due to spend this weekend with his family who live about 300miles away, so I only saw him briefly before he had to leave again (and to be honest I was so upset with him that I barely spoke to him).

For various reasons I ended up spending a bit of time with Ed this afternoon. Ed is a nice guy, I don't know him that well but he strikes me as v honest and with a lot of integrity. Anyway, in an unguarded chatty moment, Ed mentioned in passing that he spent Thursday night in another city miles away from here with some of his other friends - so there's no way my H could have been with him. He also didn't seem to know anything about this business meeting that my H had apparently been at. While I was digesting this information, Ed got a phone call from my H (who knew I was with him). After that, when I tried to casually ask Ed for more details about what they'd been up to and how the business meeting went, he seemed to change his story and started talking about the club and the state both he and my H had been in on Friday morning.

It's POSSIBLE Ed got his dates mixed up and meant to say he was in this other city on Wednesday night and the story is exactly as my H said. But Ed seemed so uncomfortable with my casual questioning (you know when you can tell someone is lying to you) that I'm suspicious. I don't know what to do. Do I ask Ed to level with me and tell me what actually happened? I don't want to put him on the spot but equally I feel I need to know. Or do I wait for H to return and ask him directly, risking a potentially marriage-ending row?

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Kenduskeag · 05/06/2016 16:25

The intricate details of the saga aside, he doesn't sound like a long-term prospect. Too-busy drunken cokehead who's not particularly interested in you and been fired four times? What a catch.

You're lucky you've finally seen what he's like and can start to unravel yourself from him. You can do a lot, lot better.

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icedcherrytea · 05/06/2016 13:12

Poor you and poor Ed. Obviously having to cover up for your H 's lies.

Get your ducks in a row OP.

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DorindaJ · 05/06/2016 11:51

I agree with Kr1stina. Also going to couple counselling is not a cure all.

He's lying, which means that he has something to hide. Relationships, good ones, are based on honesty which enables trust. In your position I will be planning my exit.

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Kr1stina · 05/06/2016 09:37

Don't talk.

Investigate and then act.

Talking is much over rated here on MN. Everyone seems to assume that cheaters / liars / addicts didn't know that their behaviour was wrong/ hurtful . And if you point that out to them nicely, they will stop .

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Sweetlittleevilme · 05/06/2016 08:33

I'm okay. All the responses have made for difficult reading but they are also giving me the resolve I need to face up to the situation (something I have been too scared to do until now). So thank you for all your support - I don't think the next few days and weeks are going to be easy, and there's definitely some difficult conversations ahead, but anything has to be better than the current mess. Smile

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NowSissyThatWalk · 05/06/2016 07:50

Are you okay OP?

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SandyY2K · 05/06/2016 00:57

Ed was telling the truth until the phone call. Don't drag him into this. Investigate and get evidence. He's lying to you.

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ImperialBlether · 05/06/2016 00:45

Well ffs,if he's with another man in that sense it's exactly the same as if he was with a woman.

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Haffdonga · 04/06/2016 22:40

There is not a single thing you've said that leaves any doubt that your H is a liar, a cokehead and a cheat. Sorry.

But you ask if you should ask Ed to level with you? No. Ed has obviously been asked to lie and is uncomfortable. What would you gain by pushing him into either lying to you further or betraying his 'friend' and business partner?

Now ask yourself honestly why your dh has been sacked so many times. 4 times in 3 years is more than just bad luck. What is the3 likelihood that this new scheme is going to be a success? If it is a success, what is the liklelihood that he will share any of that (financially or emotionally) with you?

Instead I'd be quietly gathering an escape fund, preparing your new life without him and get out of there with your dignity intact.

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MissJM1 · 04/06/2016 22:38

Why does he keep getting sacked?

Sounds like my ex husband. Couldn't keep a job, had a problem with Coke, would stay out all hours and I never knew where he was. I'll never know if there was another woman (don't care now anyway) but leaving him was like a weight had been lifted

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Foofoobum · 04/06/2016 22:23

If he said he was with one man and it's found he wasn't, then he's hardly likely to be with another man.
Because no man has ever ditched a woman for another man...

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ijustwannadance · 04/06/2016 22:21

Imagine your life in 5 or 10 years and a couple of kids with the lying drugged up knobhead. He will drag you down and take everything from your money to your self respect.

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ThatStewie · 04/06/2016 22:02

Selfish and immature men very rarely change. Do you really want to spend the rest of your life with man that you call selfish immature?

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QuiteLikely5 · 04/06/2016 21:58

How can a guy who got fired all those times be smart enough to start up his own business?????

I wonder if he could go into the Guiness Book of WR.........

Why was he fired??

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MonicaFree · 04/06/2016 21:56

OP, he's cheating or upping the drugs or both. And you're funding it.

Telling you to leave the pub was mean. He's a user.

Gather your dignity, don't bother trying to make this work. He's playing you.

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Puff42 · 04/06/2016 21:54

What a horrible situation Op . If he's been sacked a number of times , is lying to you , not coming home etc my guess is that he's taking cocaine more often than you think .

I totally agree. I'm sorry OP, what a mess this all is. :(

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Doinmummy · 04/06/2016 21:52

What a horrible situation Op . If he's been sacked a number of times , is lying to you , not coming home etc my guess is that he's taking cocaine more often than you think .

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AnotherPrickInTheWall · 04/06/2016 21:52

He makes a dig about you being the main breadwinner when he lives off you and brags about his new business venture before going awol???
I don't think you really need MN's input to give you your answers do you OP?
You need a supportive partner ,and he sounds like an entitled sponger.

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ImperialBlether · 04/06/2016 21:45

NowSissy, you can't just demand that he tells all. He's a liar. That's been proved. If he said he was with one man and it's found he wasn't, then he's hardly likely to be with another man.

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NowSissyThatWalk · 04/06/2016 21:39

Go easy, imperial.
OP, I agree with OakMaiden, you have to know everything NOW. That's the only way this can move forward, and you must tell him that.

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ImperialBlether · 04/06/2016 21:36

Come on, he had to be with a woman on that Thursday night, otherwise he would have just told her the guy's name.

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Oakmaiden · 04/06/2016 21:31

It might not be another woman - but whatever it is, it doesn't look good...

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Oakmaiden · 04/06/2016 21:30

It is salvageable, so long as their is complete honesty here on in.

^^I would be inclined to start with this.

If you want our marriage to work, we have to be completely honest to each other. At the moment there is a lot going on I am unhappy about. And you know I was talking to Ed, when you phoned, and he was telling me about his trip to x last Thursday. Please tell me what is going on.

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fastdaytears · 04/06/2016 21:27

It doesn't sound like you're getting a huge amount from this relationship.

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ImperialBlether · 04/06/2016 21:27

Where exactly is his heart?

He told you to leave the pub.
He's taking coke.
He's lying about his whereabouts.
He's telling his friend to lie.
He's been sacked 4 times in 3 years.

Come on, OP, for god's sake wake up and see what's really going on.

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