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H wants to separate but I don't know why

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Loverdose · 14/04/2014 16:34

OK. H and I have dd 19 months. Admittedly things haven't been rosy for a while; we have been quite snappy with each other, our sex life isn't great, etc. We have moved quite a few times with H job and recently we have made what we hope is a permanent move, somewhere we will be settling down.

A couple of weeks ago, I mentioned something about having another dc in future (not right now as I thought we had to work on our marriage a bit). He flipped out and said he didn't want any other children, ever! (Has never mentioned this before, and I have said that I would like 2 children). I was a bit surprised but thought ok, he might change his mind in the future.

Last night he was very quiet and all of a sudden asked me if I thought it was best if we separate! He said that he didn't want us to end up resenting each other as he definitely does not want any more dc. I said I didn't just want another child with some other man, I didn't want another baby if he isn't fully on board, and I would rather have a happy family unit with one child than be on my own with two. He said no and started insisting that he knew I wouldn't be happy if I didn't have another child. (I think I would always feel a bit of heartache if I didn't have another, but what I said to him was true, I don't want one with someone who doesn't want one).

Nothing more was said until just now. He has just sent me a text saying that dd and I can stay in the house for as long as we want (we rent and it would be too expensive for me to pay as a single parent, I am a housewife) and that he would help me out with a deposit for a new place for dd and myself. I am stunned and sad. I replied saying I don't want to separate, and he said it's better if we do it now, rather than later down the line when I decide I want another dc and he doesn't.

Is it me, or does all this sound a bit suspicious? It seems to me like he is trying to make himself out to be the good guy and convince me that a separation would be for my benefit. Hmm I'm racking my brains as to why so sudden. It crossed my mind that there might be an OW, but I honestly can't see him having the time for an affair, plus we only moved into this new area a couple of months ago, not a lot of time for him to meet someone.

What does everyone think? I'm just so hurt and confused. We were having problems yes, but I didn't think it was anything we couldn't work on.

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Eddy99 · 18/04/2014 13:50

I would treat his offer as a "get out of jail free card". Whatever the reason, he doesn't want to be with you any more so accept it and move on. If you want to get even then get happy. You will be surprised how liberating it is to be out of a relationship that is not working. Only time will tell if there is any going back - in the meantime move forward!

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GuineaPigGaiters · 18/04/2014 07:20

So did he stay at the 'workmates' again last night?

OW, without question, and if he didn't come home last night I'd get him enough stuff for a week into a bag, lock the door from the inside with the key in (so he can't get in) and text him to tell him you're not stupid and his clothes are on the doorstep, for whomever gets there first.

Sorry this is happening to you.

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Coconutty · 18/04/2014 07:01

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Clarabum · 17/04/2014 19:26

It's not your fault Op. It's his- he left his family. Not you. You made vows and have stuck by them and while there is no evidence of OW at the minute, he must be a total shit to not even discuss this change of heart with his wife. Onward to better things and a better life for you and dc. Thanks

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pilates · 17/04/2014 18:49

Good luck Loverdose - glad you got some legal advice and you are sounding more positive.

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dwinnol · 17/04/2014 18:26

Hi Loverdose
It's not your fault If your husband is playing away or has just decided the whole commitment thing isn't his bag. You got married and had DD with the intention of it being for life but it seems he didn't.
Harness your anger to propel you into a happy and settled life for DD. Go for the uni thing, get what you want out of life and be happy. It's the ultimate revenge in the end.
Stay in touch, there's tonnes of great free advice available here.

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CurtWild · 17/04/2014 18:24

Hi loverdose..glad to hear you'll be able to stay in the house and you sound very 'onward' as I did about my marriage breakdown. Sad, but determined to look to the future. I wish you and your DD all the very best. Maybe there is no OW, but regardless, you deserve better than someone who can check out on his marriage so easily Smile

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Loverdose · 17/04/2014 18:20

Hi everyone. I have spoken to someone and found out what my rights are, etc. I can stay in our home and make H leave, I was worried about affording it but I have been informed that I should receive about 100 a week from H in child maintenance, so with this I should just be able to afford it. I will probably downsize when our tenancy runs out in August as it's a large 3 bed family home and I don't really need all the space.

I need to speak to him properly though, I still haven't heard anything about an OW but it wouldn't surprise me at this point.

I'm going to start looking for work soon and hopefully may apply for university next year. Onwards and upwards for me and dd :) I am feeling quite sad about the way my marriage has gone, and I do have some doubts and think was this my fault? I know deep down it wasn't but I still feel bad. I just have to hope that things will get better one day at a time.

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DownstairsMixUp · 17/04/2014 09:35

How are you today OP?

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dwinnol · 17/04/2014 08:15

My ex-h looked into my eyes and swore on our kids lives he wasn't having an affair. Later he said "it wasn't an affair". So that's ok then. Hope you are ok OP?

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BitOutOfPractice · 17/04/2014 05:42

I have also had the vehement denials despite written evidence of an OW and more. It's breathtakingly and depressingly similar how they act isn't it?

Op I hope you're ok.

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NatashaBee · 16/04/2014 23:36

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NettleTea · 16/04/2014 22:59

yep, and my ex did the same - moved me right into the annexe of my parents home and went off every other night back up to his OW (who didnt know he had moved 80 miles away. Denied denied denied.

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NettleTea · 16/04/2014 22:58

I am sure you CAN get income support and tax credits while in marital home, just say you have separated. I am sure I have seen this advice before.

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CurtWild · 16/04/2014 22:47

Same here. I asked him outright and he was so contrite, like 'how could you even think such a thing'. He fessed up but it took two weeks and me moving to my parents with our newborn, first.
Hope you're ok, OP.

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DownstairsMixUp · 16/04/2014 22:42

I think ow to (no matter how much he denies) I am so sorry op. Here on pm if you need a private chat. You ate better off without him!

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hamptoncourt · 16/04/2014 22:30

Yes my ex totally denied his affair even though I had printed out streams of messages where they discussed the positions they had been shagging in/when and where they were meeting etc etc.

It's all The Script.

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Pinkballoon · 16/04/2014 21:44

Unfortunately, the vehement denial can also be a massive sign of an affair. I had that despite having texts from the OW confirming everything (including texts that he'd sent her), and a photo of her that she decided to send me (!!). They will deny, deny, deny!

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Only1scoop · 16/04/2014 21:24

Agree pink

Knowledge is power in this situation however you decide to use or store it up....

Have also found the hidden phones....transactions etc.

Try to stay strong....

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Pinkballoon · 16/04/2014 21:15

Also, if you have a joint bank account, go through all of his transactions scrupulously. Look for: if he is withdrawing cash from banks in certain areas (could give you an idea of where an OW is); areas of petrol stations he may be filling up in (you can look up their references online if it just says something like Shell 53); and dating site transactions (sometimes they show up on statements under umbrella organisations.

Also, try and check his car for spare phones (might be locked in the boot.)

Unfortunately, I have too much experience in this area!

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Pinkballoon · 16/04/2014 21:09

Try and get hold of his phone and do a search. I know that on some iPhones, even if messages have been deleted, you can search on key words and the first few words of the first sentence of the deleted message (with those words in) appear…………. So go for searches of words such as sex, love, bed, meet, night, miss, etc… basically any words that two people having an affair might use in messages to each other. I think the phone will also probably display the number that these came from/ were sent to.

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Only1scoop · 16/04/2014 20:40

Hope you ok Op....thinking of you

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hellsbellsmelons · 16/04/2014 11:48

I asked him if there was an OW, which he denied vehemently

RTT! Or at least OP's updates.

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quietlysuggests · 16/04/2014 11:44

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Jan45 · 16/04/2014 10:36

Well if you were looking for more evidence of OW you have it now, 40 minute drive home but he stays at a mates for the night, yeah right.

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