I always seem to come off worse where toxic SIL is concerned

[amumthatcares]

Have posted before about SIL and I will try to keep this brief.

There was a bust up about 5 months between DH and SIL over our DD. I never got involved, but suddenly I was the villain of the peace and was somehow getting the blame. A month later (and I still had not got involved), after a big public announcement on Facebook, she deleted me, then blocked me off FB. At this point I became furious and cropped her out of all my FB pics....if she didn't want me on her FB, I didn't want her on mine.

That was 4 months ago. During that time I have discovered lots of horrible things she has said about me and lies she has spread. Still I have said nothing. DH tried to make up with SIL for MIL sake several weeks ago but she didn't want to know (that was the other thread)

Tonight her DD has written on my Facebook wall publicly, that she has noticed I have cropped her mum out of my pictures and how childish and pathetic I am! Her DD will only hear (and believe) her side of the story. My own DD has never got involved in anything, even though she knows how toxic her aunt has been to me (and that is the way I want it)

Now DH has found out what I did to my pics and has gone ballistic at me, telling me I should have kept a 'dignified silence'. That we will never win against her and I have given her ammunition to make me look even worse than the lies she's already told people about me. Although he did say he could go and punch her and never wants her name mentioned again, I still feel totally gutted by DH response to me

[amumthatcares]

hahaha ivy - after my DH's foul outburst to me the other night, I'm so relieved most of you don't think I was completely juvenile by cropping.....just wish I'd though of the pig before

[ivykaty44]

I'm with the other poster who suggested you replace her head with that of a pig, though in this case a makes head may be more apt with the body of a pig ;)

[amumthatcares]

Ah thanks Cats I never knew that....I am on it!!

[Catsmamma]

check your settings, you can group people (like your niece and her father) and issue individual settings for each group.

so for you, having blocked your SIL you ought to have put any tattletales who might feed her info into a group, and then allow them very limited access to your wall.

I do love the cropping her out of photos though....that is class! :D

[amumthatcares]

Getting her kids involved is far more childish - yep!!

She is DH's sister - but that still doesn't mean she has to be my friend

[ToffeeOwnsTheSausage]

You'll never win? It is hardly a game and him saying that is alluding to her being the high and mighty.

No problems cutting the cow out of the pictures. Getting her kids involved is far more childish.

Just because she is married to your husband's brother doesn't mean she has to be your friend.

[amumthatcares]

Exactly ivy - she certainly won't delete/block me because that stops her DM using her account to spy on me. In actual fact the penny has just dropped there!! I did wonder why, if niece was so upset, she hadn't deleted me!

[amumthatcares]

No, they could see what I was writing on others walls if we were just not 'friends' but if they are 'blocked' they cannot see anything I write or do and could not search for me on Facebook. For this reason I think she regrets 'blocking' me when she deleted me, because unless she uses someone elses account (hence her DD last night) she cannot see me

[ivykaty44]

Stick a note under hers

Cropped the photos as wanted to crop her out of our lives, you are welcome to delete me and block me if you feel you should be loyal to your mum

Bet she wouldn't though as they always want to stick around like a bad smell people like that

But it puts the onus back to them which means she has yo either show disloyalty to her mum or carry on bring nosey into you life

[Logg1e]

Ah, ok, I thought she'd be able to see what you wrote on other people's walls(?) or something. See, I'm learning about Facebook.

[CookieDoughKid]

Ah, leave the drama lama to find another victim elsewhere!!

[amumthatcares]

Meerka that's exactly how I felt last night. I have sat back and said nothing during all the time that SIL has been a complete bitch to me and the one time I reach the end of my tether and retaliate (this was 4 months ago too!!) - I the devil in disguise and have to answer to everyone!!

Logg1e given my age - cropping pictures really was an immature thing to do, but it was the only way I could vent my frustration and in some ways, for me, it was like I was cutting her out of my life as has been suggested above. However, immature my behaviour was though, is nothing compared to SIL's shenanigans...but then I suppose you probably couldn't expect anything else from a person approaching 50, who thinks she's 'one of the girls' and goes clubbing with her 22 year old DD and her mates.

With regard to Facebook, because I have blocked her, her DH and her DC, none of them will be able to physically see that my FB account exists but mutual friends could well tell her except that she's such a bitch she hasn't really got any friends except we don't share the same friends. My primary reason for having Facebook is to keep in touch with family on the other side of the world

[Holdthepage]

Some people love the drama of family fall outs & Facebook is their weapon of choice. Step back, disengage, don't allow yourself to be drawn in. Give out as little information about yourself as possible, it's all just fodder for the drama llamas.

[Logg1e]

I'm finding it difficult to imagine this, I just can't picture behaving like this. Anyway, I don't suppose you give two hoots what I think, and it sounds as though you have a good solution. I'm not too clear how Facebook works. Will she not be able to tell you have a new page through common friends?

[Meerka]

sounds like you've found a good way forward. Agreed with pengy though, get your husband to tell your MIL if you possibly can. If it's too hard for him, then do it together but it will come a lot better from him.

it pisses me off too that if you react with patience and self-control for years, then slip once when you're tired / too fed up / hormonal, an absolute deluge of shit descends when another person can behave like poison for years and get away with it!

[amumthatcares]

Logg1e late 40's - DD 19, niece 22....you would think SIL would have grown up by now wouldn't you?

[RatherBeRiding]

Good result! ;)

Glad your DH and you are on same page. The second FB account and all of them blocked will niggle them like hell. Oh dear what a shame!!

[Logg1e]

Do you mind me asking how old you all are?

[pengymum]

Don't speak to MIL OP - leave that to your DH. His family, he should speak to her otherwise MIL will have the hump with you!

[amumthatcares]

Thank you

That is exactly what DH and I have agreed to do this morning - cut her out completely and be dignified with it.

I've also told DH that I will speak to MIL and ask her not to talk about her DD in my house and DH is totally with me on that.

Am feeling shattered (no sleep) but an awful lot calmer and happier

[Uptheanty]

I would say that you need to try & change your thought process.

i always seem to come off worse than my toxic sister in law

You will always come off worse if you engage in her level in any way.

You cannot reason with crazy.

Sil obviously lives for this stuff and feeds off it - it is her energy. I suspect that the reason why she involved you at all is for exactly this kind of drama.

Don't try to beat her. Just completely cut her out, forget her & smile sweetly.

Once you see the positive effect it has in your life - on time- it will be easy.

[Chottie]

OP - well done for moving on from a very difficult situation. SiL is not going to change, her DD will not change and neither will MiL. Carry on having a fab life! :)

[amumthatcares]

IEven - I have taken your advice and am setting up a 2nd Facebook. I have blocked several people from my new one and will let the first one just lay dormant.

Your revenge strategy sounds good except I think that it probably the root of SIL hatred toward me. DH and I have lots of friends and socialise A LOT. We are often going away for weekends etc., and live quite comfortably and I think she is jealous.

Bum thanks for the laugh - why not take reds advice and do some photoshopping

Aussie it was definitely her DD (she is early 20s) but I do suspect SIL was with her and they were trawling through my FB together. I also think she uses her DH's (who I have as a friend) redundant FB account to 'spy' on me!! Needless to say, these people are all blocked of the new account

[Aussiemum78]

Are you sure sil wasn't using her dd profile and log in to access yours?

The dd message sounds implausible to me, I couldn't care less if my mum had a fight with my aunt as a teenager.

[BumPotato]