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Partner's likely infidelity

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polymath · 19/01/2014 23:16

Apologies for any typos or acronym faux pas, I'm typing this on a tablet :-)

First, the facts; DW and I have been married for 13 years, with a much wanted DS of 6. Generally it's been a happy marriage but late last year, after a few discussions she said she wanted to go away for a few days for a break. In early November, she leaves saying "Don't text or phone me, I don't want you stressing me out", so I oblige,give her her space and after a couple of days she returns. A month later, again she wants to go away, but things didn't feel right so I do a bit of detective work. I had noticed her use of Facebook had gone up, and having previously managed to get where she'd gone first time out of her I do some checking.
Apparently a few months earlier, a "friend" on FB had sent a few sexually provocative messages to her, and this person coincidentally lived only a couple of miles from where she said she was going. The urge to check her underwear drawer got very strong, to see if her Ann Summers undies were there, and needless to say they weren't. By this point, she's been gone long enough that I've had to change my work hours to look after our son and any attempts to contact her were unsuccessful. To cut a long story short, she's back, but denies getting up to anything (planning the trip in advance, repeating it and taking underwear kind of makes me doubt it), and things have improved between us but now it feels like she's getting back into some of the same behaviours she had before she went (using FB again after deactivating her account, angling her phone away from me when I get close and perhaps most telling, not initiating any affection.
To quote Springsteen 's song Brilliant Disguise, which ran through my head constantly when she went away the second time; "God have mercy on the man who doubts what he's sure of"

I throw myself open to the collective wisdom of the forum.

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ALittleStranger · 20/01/2014 08:45

I don't think you're going to get anywhere until she's honest, and she's not going to be honest until you start being more assertive. You know what's going on, you're letting her play you like a fool.

Is this an ongoing dynamic? Maybe I/previous partners have been controlling but I can't imagine one half of a couple going away and it being so shrouded in secrecy from the offset. Did you ask who she was staying with, how it went afterwards? Did she outright lie or evade?

After several friends' experiences I'm also highly suspicious about any mini-break which includes the T&C's "don't call me, I need to relax".

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MostWicked · 20/01/2014 09:33

Whether or not she has had sex, is of no relevance whatsoever.
She has worn her sexy underwear in bed for cuddles with another man. That, in my book, in being unfaithful. That is not appropriate behaviour for a married woman.

The next step is up to you. You need to decide if this is the end of your marriage or you are willing to forgive her. If you are willing to forgive her, then you need to have a very honest discussion about her intentions. If she thinks that this behaviour is ok, can you live with that? Or does it need to stop? What needs to change in order for your marriage to survive?

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asgard · 20/01/2014 17:11

Dear Polymath check your inbox urgently

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scornedwoman67 · 20/01/2014 18:14

Hi Poly,

I was on the receiving end of an affair. She binned the phone & the SIM card to hide the evidence - if she did bin it. She may now have two phones & two FB accounts. I'm afraid she is treating you appallingly. There is no point in asking her to tell the truth - she won't. I would agree that unless her behaviour changes & she starts showing real remorse/ volunteering all the info, allowing you to look at her phone, she is not intending to be honest. I agree you need to take control and tell her to go. I went through it for months - fell for every lie. I'd never do it again. I hope you find the strength you need.

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polymath · 23/01/2014 07:44

The earnest talk will be taking place tonight, once I come home from work. Can't say I'm sure how it's going to go, or even what I want the outcome to be, which I hope many of you will understand. All I need is for her to lay her cards on the table, so to speak, be honest and we'll take it from there. As far as being honest, I know a bit more than she thinks, so if she lies about the small crap, I'm pretty sure she'll be lying about the bigger stuff.

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JeanSeberg · 23/01/2014 07:47

Good luck poly.

All I need is for her to lay her cards on the table... be honest

Be prepared though that she will continue to deny/minimise so I hope you have a plan in place of what you will do if you don't get the admission that you are hoping for.

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polymath · 23/01/2014 10:35

As a side note to those out there who've found themselves in a similar situation, the Sexual Health clinic was nothing to be scared of. It was a bit weird seeing a familiar face there, doubly so as they worked there Blush

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Fairenuff · 24/01/2014 17:23

How did the talk go poly?

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MissScatterbrain · 24/01/2014 19:06

Hope you are ok?

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polymath · 25/01/2014 03:52

I'm in a weird place at the moment, MissScatterbrain, I tried to begin the chat, but she was evasive (verbally and physically) and I lost the will to try and pursue things. At the moment we're being civil, and that's about the best I can say.
Fairenuff, it's taken me a while to post because I appear to have done something which means that when I'm logged in this thread disappears. When I log out, it's there, so I had to do a search for posts by myself to find it Confused.

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Walkacrossthesand · 25/01/2014 07:50

Hi poly. Sounds like you've accidentally hidden the thread, which is why you can't see it when you're logged in! To unhide, go to 'mumsnet stuff' FAQ 'how do I unhide a thread' and there's a link to the relevant section it's in talk preferences apparently but I have no idea where that is!

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polymath · 25/01/2014 09:40

Thank you Walkacrossthesand, if only everything in life was that simple....

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Fairenuff · 25/01/2014 10:03

Also, when you are logged in, if you click on 'Threads I'm On' in the bar across the top, it will bring you straight here.

Does your wife know that you are posting here, or does she use mumsnet herself?

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polymath · 25/01/2014 17:19

Fairenuff - I don't believe she does use Mumsnet; I've never heard her mention it.

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PedantMarina · 25/01/2014 18:21

And read also cumplady.

Another poster mentioned The Script. It's here on mumsnet. Do a seach.

Best of luck.

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PedantMarina · 25/01/2014 18:22

Sorry, I meant chumplady, but I think the link is still OK.

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Fairenuff · 25/01/2014 19:13

She is hoping that you will stop asking her. Clearly she wants to continue seeing him whilst staying married to you. She needs to know that this is not an option, she is taking you for a fool and you certainly are not a fool.

Tell her that she either sits down with you properly to talk about this and answer all your questions, or she moves out. As long as you allow her to sidestep the issue, nothing will change.

Once it hits her that she might actually be on the verge of losing something, she will have to take action, one way or the other. She will then do one of the following

a) outright lie and continue to deny anything untoward is going on,
b) tell you as little as she thinks she can get away with and hope that you will be satisfied,
c) admit that she has been/is seeing someone but blame you for it,
d) break down in tears and ask you to forgive her, or
d) agree to separate.

If you don't confront this, she will carry on. Sorry, that's just the way these things go. Try to find some time to talk with her again.

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polymath · 26/01/2014 13:48

I think the stress of all this is beginning to take it's toll on me. I don't have a window for restarting "the talk" for a couple of days (work dictates so), but the thought of it makes me feel physically sick. The prospect of either being a lone parent, or having limited access to DC feels me with dread and I don't want it (the talk) to end in a denial or a blazing row with her blaming everyone under the sun for what's happened, except herself.

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Fairenuff · 26/01/2014 21:52

Unfortunately, how she reacts is not in your control. All you can do is set your boundaries and enforce them. If you ignore what has happened you are giving her permission to carry on.

I know that the alternative is hard too but not as hard as living a lie and being afraid to show your real feelings. If you prefer, you could book some counselling sessions just for yourself to talk it through with a professional.

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herald · 26/01/2014 22:05

I went though similar with my soon to be ex wife the conversation went

I have feelings for someone else
Ok I only gave him oral
Ok we had sex once it was rubbish
Ok I have been having an affair it's over now
There must have been something wrong or I wouldn't have done it

And that is why she is now my ex,

Sorry but it looks like it's going to get messy for you but things will be much better when you come out of the other side.

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Higgledyhouse · 26/01/2014 23:25

Stick with Springsteen, he's the soundtrack to my life :)

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polymath · 31/01/2014 04:44

I'm still here, the talk didn't go too well (stuck to her story), despite letting her know I knew more than she thought I did. I then had the pleasure of an overnight stay in hospital with what I have been told was stress related chest pain (which I would say was a diplomatic way of telling me it was anxiety). As you can tell from the time I'm posting, I'm sleeping well Sad. If it wasn't for my DS,lack of local family and mortgage I'd be long gone by now....

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dollius · 31/01/2014 05:38

Sorry things are so tough right now poly. What is the home set-up? Do you both work the same hours? Does she stay at home? Could you reduce the hours you work so it is you that is at home more?

It's time to start planning. You can't live like this, it is making you ill.

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herald · 31/01/2014 08:24

The priority is your health and your ds welfare , mortgages bills can be sorted, maybe you need to take some professional advise to help you get things straight in your head. Can you chat with your employer you don't need to tell them everything but they might be able to give you time to get things sorted.

How is she treating you, did she come to the hospital with you?
This problem won't go away and it won't be easy but you need to find the strength to deal with it.

I have Been in your position it's hard but you will come out of the Otherside a stronger person and remember you haven't done anything to bring on this current situation.

Herald

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