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Lost it and told the kids it's Daddy's fault we're not living with him

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Heartbrokenmum73 · 16/10/2013 19:58

Exp told me he didn't love me anymore six months ago.

My first instinct was to run away with the kids. My parents moved four hours away ten years ago, down by the sea, and I've been struggling with parenthood since then, having been diagnosed with PND soon after the birth of DD (now 11).

We moved down to Dorset at the end of August, initially living with my parents and then renting a house from a private landlord through a letting agency. We've been in the house almost a month now and finally got the majority of our stuff from the old house last week.

I've been falling apart since Ex decided to end things but I'm slowly getting worse. I feel like I want to go to bed in the evening and not wake up the next morning.

I'm angry at Ex for not giving me any explanation about why his feelings changed, how he could just abandon me to single motherhood (knowing how much I struggle being a Mum as it is), for leaving me with the fallout of explaining to the kids about us splitting (DD figured it out for herself, DS1 (8) was told recently that Daddy won't be coming to live with us at the new house, DS2 (5) doesn't really understand or care one way or another).

I've just cooked tea, which DS2 roundly rejected without even trying it (very common, he is extremely fussy) and DS1 has barely touched. The new house has an electric cooker which I can't cope with so I ended up burning the chicken to the pan.

DS2 has had a massive strop over not being able to play the Wii and DS1 had a meltdown over the choice of DVD they were all watching. They've both done the jumping up and down, stomping up the stairs, screaming at me thing.

Then Ex phoned, at which point I told him I was sick of everything and that I would quite happily have all three kids adopted. He spoke to both boys and told them to apologise, but I said I didn't want their half-hearted apologies, which they didn't mean anyway.

After he went, I was angry and upset and told the kids that next time they see Daddy to ask HIM why he's not living here, because he wanted to leave Mummy and not the other way round and if it was up to me we'd still all be living together in our old house (that was mortgaged and decent, as opposed to the new place which has damp and insects in the kitchen cupboards and is disgusting to live in).

Now DD and DS1 have been crying and I feel like absolute shit. I feel sick and tired of having to live this shit life (and drag them along with me) when I didn't choose this and I had no choice in the matter. I feel like no one's getting anything out of this and that I'm making everyone around me unhappy because I'm so bloody unhappy all the time. It's not fair on the kids and I'm completely at the end of my tether and feeling lost.

I don't even know why I'm posting or what I'm looking for. It's either post on here (and just unload I suppose) or throw myself in the sea.

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honey86 · 17/10/2013 11:35

i also enjoy listening to paul mckennas hypnosis CDs to relax...
theres one called i can mend your broken heart... it comes with a book, and the more i read and listened to it the more i found it comforting x

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IamGluezilla · 17/10/2013 11:41

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Heartbrokenmum73 · 17/10/2013 11:46

I have reached a point where I don't care about myself or my appearance much at all. This was one of the reasons exp gave for falling out of love with me. I know how I look - I weigh over 15 stone, am a size 20/22 (with no idea what suits me, so I live in jeans and baggy tops), my hair is either greasy or clean and frizzy (I've never got to grips with styling it), I don't bother with make-up (don't know how to apply it or what colours suit me, never have) and feel that if I DO make any effort that people are laughing at me because I must look ridiculous. So now I'm kind of damned if I do and damned if I don't. (This is in response to Honey saying about treating myself more and stop caring so much about what others think, btw, not just random crap).

I've never even thought about Homestart either. I'm on benefits now (and that's shit too - we're living in this wonderful place and bus fares alone to get down the beach would come to £15, never mind anything else) so I suppose I'm entitled to help from places I wouldn't have been before, but it's getting it sorted. I just feel that I don't have the energy or inclination to start making phone calls and chasing things up. What kind of things do Homestart do?

I know how lucky I am compared to some. We're not living in abject poverty (although we are living out of a coolbox because I can't currently afford to buy a fridge!), we're all healthy and my kids are bright, funny, compassionate little creatures who really are a joy. I just feel that I don't give them enough (emotionally, not materialistically) or appreciate them enough.

Rambling again...

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Dahlen · 17/10/2013 11:49

I don't think there is a parent alive who hasn't messed up about something at some point. I try very hard not to behave in a way that requires an apology in all areas of my life, and most of the time I succeed I think, but if I do mess up I apologise, and that includes to my DC. I haven't fallen into the trap of thinking I can behave however I like and as long as I can say sorry it's ok, but I am as flawed a human as the next and I believe the first step to self improvement is to admit your failings.

The studies about parental conflict etc are self-explanatory and important to acknowledge, but the OP is not trying to say she should be allowed to run down her X in front of the DC. Far from it. She's distraught that it's happened.

OP you obviously care. To me that suggests that you are just going through a rough time and momentarily lost it. It doesn't make you a bad mother. You are already learning from it and trying to find ways to ensure it doesn't happen again. That makes you a good mum IMO. It will get easier and life will get better. For now, take the support you're offered and rant away. We all need support from time to time.

Hope you feel better soon. Flowers

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Heartbrokenmum73 · 17/10/2013 11:58

Gluezilla.

I totally get what you're saying but there is no way on this earth that could ever happen. He works all hours, all over the country and is barely able to get down here to see them when he does. He's morphed into a typical Disney Dad since we moved and buys them toys, promises them new phones, TV in the bedroom, his PS3, etc, takes them out for the day, all stuff he didn't do before because he was so busy with his 'friends' every weekend. Despite how I come across and what I've said, they are definitely better off with me.

When I say I've struggled with being a Mum, I mean I'm not a 'housewifey' type. Cooking/cleaning/gardening/baking - all that is just chores to me, none of it is something I enjoy. I'm not that kind of Mum. But I keep the kids clean, clothed, fed (when they're not being too fussy) and entertained as best I can. I'm not neglectful in any way and I've taught them right from wrong, how to be good people, think of others, money isn't what matters, etc. We read together a lot, watch DVDs, go to the cinema and the park.

I used to work part-time up until I had DS1, then got made redundant. It was pointless me even trying to find work after that because there was nothing I could get that wouldn't leave me out of pocket after childcare expenses so I've been at home for 8 years. I've done an Access to HE course (and started Uni, but had to leave because of various reasons) and done some work from home, but there's always been a burning resentment in me towards ex that he never took my work seriously (even though I was earning more than him before having DD1) because his work is physically tiring and mine was mentally tiring. Therefore, his job was worth more, if that makes sense. It was always assumed (and I, stupidly, didn't question it) when I got pregnant with DD1 that he would continue full-time and I would either go p/t (which I did) or give up all together. I'm job-hunting now, knowing that I have my parents to help with childcare, which I've never had before, but now I feel that I'm asking too much of my parents and that it's not their job to look after my kids. At the same time, I don't want to sign-on every week and I want to support my kids myself.

Sorry, still rambling.

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honey86 · 17/10/2013 12:08

aww Thanks its a hard habit to get out of let alone when your self esteem is rock bottom... my sisters similar, shes size 24 and goes through times where she gives up her diet (shes trying to slim down to concieve) and hides herself away with a mindset of 'whats the point, i never succeed anyway'. though she flits between denial (im not depressed) and pessimism (its hopeless- might as well just forget it). its hard to break that way of thinking but you can if your willing to try.

homestart, for me, originally allocated me a volunteer, who became more of a friend over time, to come to my house or come out with me, help with practical stuff - like food shopping or taking the kids out somewhere- or just even to talk to if im low. after a while that stopped cos i felt more able to manage myself.
my homestart offers short courses like protective behaviours, stress management or key skills etc. the manager became abit like my advocate, someone to ring when i was low, and shed help with ideas and strategies for the kids behaviour. if there was ever a social worker involved, she came to meetings n stuck up for me. n when my recent ex turned abusive she helped create a log, so if anything happened id ring her n shed write it in the log, useful for court. its worth having a look out there n seeing whats about where u are x

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hellsbellsmelons · 17/10/2013 12:09

we're all healthy and my kids are bright, funny, compassionate little creatures who really are a joy. I just feel that I don't give them enough (emotionally, not materialistically) or appreciate them enough

This is a total contradiction.
You have raised these kids to be as you describe. It's all been down to you so you should realise this.

I do agree with some others and think you may be getting depressed.
Don't worry about past GPs - go and see this one and see what they suggest and recommend. Take all the help you can get.

Do you get a break from the kids at all?
Overnight on your own so you can chill, bath, read etc...?

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Heartbrokenmum73 · 17/10/2013 12:14

The kids are all in school full-time so I feel that I get five days a week to myself and therefore I don't need any other time out. I hate lumbering my Mum with them, even though she insists that she's here to help and that I should lean on her more. I think I've just got so used to being without a support network over the last ten years that now I find it difficult to let anyone else help, but then I bitch about how difficult it all is!

I do get told what a credit my kids are, and I know the majority or parental input has come from me, so deep down I know I'm doing the right thing, it just seems to be a never-ending drudge. And I know it's like that for everyone, I just never thought it would be something I'd be doing by myself.

God, I really do need some counselling, don't I?

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Leavenheath · 17/10/2013 12:29

Ah I see you're back on yet another namechange Mumsforjustice? Feel free to disregard these rantings OP- this poster is forever frothing about supposedly bitter ex wives and how they 'poison' children against dads who've left for other women. You can guess why Wink

Look love, you're human and like everyone's said, contrary to all the guilt-tripping that goes on towards mothers, no child expects their parents to be paragons of virtue and they'd learn nothing about expressing their own emotions if the peson they lived with was an automaton devoid of normal feelings like anger, frustration and sadness. You've taught them such a valuable lesson too by apologising. Well done, love. There's a silver lining right there.

Do get some help though. Everyone of us needs it at some time in our lives and there's no shame in it. You don't get any awards at the end of a life for struggling alone. Seems to me that a visit to the GP and a break of some sort would be urgent priorities, plus thinking about community help schemes and getting some help re-entering the job market. Can you get to a jobcentre where you can ask what help is available to polish up a CV and your interviewing skills?

Unless you're damaging your health, I'd forget about your weight and stop worrying about peripheral crap like make-up. At interviews and at work, you just need to be clean and presentable.

Hugs to you. You're clearly a good person and a good mum because you've reached out for help here and you took the first step in getting some advice. Now transfer that to real life and start asking for the help and support you need.

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Chubfuddler · 17/10/2013 12:30

It's not surprising that your self esteem is rock bottom when you've been married to someone who doesn't love or value you.

You can lose weight, you can exercise, you can care for yourself. It's not shallow to do those things, it's part if keeping yourself mentally and physically healthy. Your children deserve a happy healthy mum, and you deserve those things anyway! You matter too!

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Trigglesx · 17/10/2013 12:30

I do feel very low but I'm worried about going to see the GP as one GP I saw just after the split told me he wasn't giving me any medication and that he wanted me and ex to come to him for marriage counselling.

IMO, this GP was so so wrong to do that. It only put more pressure on you when you were already feeling vulnerable. Ignore him and move on to another GP that will be of help to you.

I have reached a point where I don't care about myself or my appearance much at all. This was one of the reasons exp gave for falling out of love with me. I know how I look - I weigh over 15 stone, am a size 20/22 (with no idea what suits me, so I live in jeans and baggy tops), my hair is either greasy or clean and frizzy (I've never got to grips with styling it), I don't bother with make-up (don't know how to apply it or what colours suit me, never have) and feel that if I DO make any effort that people are laughing at me because I must look ridiculous. So now I'm kind of damned if I do and damned if I don't.

This description could be me some days. I've made a list of things I want to do for myself - lose weight, nicer more suitable clothing, hair styling advice, haircut/colour, wear makeup more (get advice as well), and so on.

Then I went through and picked out a few things that were easiest to do and most important. It's important to me to lose weight and I'd like to wear makeup more (so I don't look quite so washed out).

So I've just chosen one thing to change for each of those things. I'm trying to do more physical activity - even if it's just 10 minutes a day. Some days it's more - like a walk somewhere. Some days just 10 minutes stretching or making sure I do things up and down stairs, so I'm using the stairs a lot more. Getting organised to go to the gym is just beyond me right now. Easy stuff that I can do at home works best for me right now to start out.

Then makeup. I started out just popping on a bit of mascara every morning. Then after about a week I added eyeliner. Now I'm occasionally using lip gloss or lipstick. It just depends on how I feel that day. But just teeny little changes. I feel a bit better about myself and it's helping me to get more confident and happy with things. Pretty soon I'm going to be brave and get some advice on makeup and see where that leads me. Grin

Don't try to fix everything at once. Pick what you think is important or just something that's easy and do that. Each thing you do will make you feel that much better and ready to do something else.

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Longtallsally · 17/10/2013 12:34

Counselling would be wonderful because it would be you time - someone to listen to you, to validate what you are feeling, and to help you to decide what you need to move forwards. Sadly, they can't provide that extra money, but they can listen and understand and help you to know what you are capable of.

Homestart would be brill too - a great charity designed to help someone get back onto their feet. In a few years time, you may well want to volunteer with them to help other people who are in your situation - you would understand only too well what someone needs with 3 small people around, when times are hard.

Have you tried Gingerbread too? They may well have some cheap get togethers or days out to the beach with a minibus, so that you don't have to dish out for busfares. The children's school may well take them too, so that they get the benefit.

Your dcs sound lovely! You must be very proud of them. Hopefully, in a year or twos time, you will have settled in, and may be able to manage a little cleaning job perhaps, in your local school, to all be able to make the most of the lovely area in which you live. In the meantime, if you have each other, your health and lots of love, you will overcome the arguments. If you would like to PM me, I will see if I still have my old copy of 1-2-3 Magic as I really don't need it any more. It's a great way to approach discipline without shouting too much Smile

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Chubfuddler · 17/10/2013 12:42

BTW op if and when you feel you want to experiment with make up MUA in superdrug is really nice and dirt cheap, and there are LOADS of make up and hair tutorials on YouTube.

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PeppermintPasty · 17/10/2013 12:44

I've been following your thread but haven't posted. I agree with all that's been said on here (excepting one poster), and I wondered where you are OP? Not expecting you to say on here, but you sound familiar. I may be way off, but I'm in the South West. If you are, and you fancy PM'ing me, please feel free. I'm not crazy.

Oh god that makes me sound crazy, but I'm not. Honest Wink

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Blu · 17/10/2013 16:35

Glad you had a good talk with the kids, OP.
I too think you should go back to the GP, presumably your new one , especially counselling would give you a way of talking all this stuff through with someone who can go even further than a friend in helping you.

And don't be afraid to lean on your Mum - I bet she WANTS you to lean on her - I would if I were your Mum. She is your mum, she is your kids' grandma, and she can really make a difference, to the lives of all 4 of you. That's a privilege!

Bloody hell re bus fares - sorry to assume you could easily just stroll along the beach - we are spoilt in London as kids get free travel.

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RandomMess · 17/10/2013 17:04

I would go see a different GP and for help, anti depresssants are trial and error to find one that helps and a referral to counselling or therapy tend to take quite some time.

Everything you say about yourself screams depression and getting to the bottom of why (rather than just the split) would really help you and your dc in the long term.

Big hugs living with depression is a long hard slog.

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Heartbrokenmum73 · 17/10/2013 18:49

I will go back to the GP. My new surgery has about 8 Drs and I've already seen one of them (a young female Dr) and she seemed really friendly and approachable so I'm going to make an appt with her. I think some sort of counselling is definitely in order too. At my old surgery I had one session with the resident counsellor and he made me feel like I was being really silly, and that if I just listened to the right music and read uplifting books everything would just disappear. That put me off to be honest.

When pregnant with DS2 I was also sent to see a psychiatrist. I was seen four times and each time he literally went through a checklist on a clipboard. How are you sleeping? How are you eating? How's your sex life? Do you think of suicide? Each time he simply bumped up my meds by 10mg a day.

Is this as good as it gets?

I'm turning 40 next month and I feel as if this is it now. I'm a fat, 40 year old single Mum. I just see my life dwindling away to nothing. I was with ex for 19 years and he was my first serious boyfriend and only sexual partner. I'm lonely as hell and don't want to be on my own forever but there are so many threads on here about being single and how there's no hope for single women (esp with kids).

I have a lot going through my head.

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honey86 · 17/10/2013 19:47

thats not strictly true hun. the threads in here are by posters who are having a rough time and are sharing for advice/venting/comfort. if you think of the population of mums, nowadays a huge proportion of them are single mums or have become single at some point.
take that group of mums- only a tiny fraction of those would be on MN in bad situations. the rest have either found their happiness minus blokes (like me) and are settled that way..... others have moved on, met someone else and even married. a friend of mine has 4 kids and met someone new. my sister is married and has five kids between her and her husband.

so dont let these threads fool you into feeling theres nothing to look forward to. ive spent my single time working on my own life, getting back to college and making myself proud. im nearly due to give birth without my arsehole ex. but sod him, sod the disney dads, let them blow their money. the kids expectations of what they'll get from daddy next will grow n grow til hes broke. the novelty will wear off for him eventually. keeping up such an expensive cherade will pile on the pressure gradually. as they become teens, cinema tickets become iphones and driving lessons

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honey86 · 17/10/2013 19:50

all u can do is get yourself on track and be there for them best you can. as they mature, theyll know who was there emotionally.

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honey86 · 17/10/2013 19:54

and well done for making the appointment. thats a step in the right direction. be brutally honest with her, its her job to help you. be outright, like.. i feel my depression is worse and i would like more help for it please. x

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