irresponsible DP, or am I overreacting

[Blossomflowers]

Want some impartial advice please. DP took DS 13 fishing on Sunday to the coast, no problem there happy they were having some time together, DP said they would be back around 8 - 9, which again fine, reminded DP that not too late as it is a school night. So tried to call him early evening to see how they were getting on but phone not picking up, eventually managed to get DS who said there was a big problem as they were cut off by the tide and would have to wait it out. I was furious and worried, DP is very familiar with the tides there so no excuse. Anyway roll on 12.45 they rock up. He thinks I am being unreasonable and kill joy, apparently I ruined the whole day because he "knew I would be cross" So am I overreacting? Other than saying that when he got back how irresponsible I thought he was on Sunday this has not been mentioned until last night. We had a huge row, he slept on the sofa last night and left this morning without saying good anything.

[str8tothepoint]

He is the child's father, he is responsible enough, back off him and let him be a parent. You weren't there he was why would he intentionally put danger to his child. Get over it

[Blossomflowers]

queen the drunken rant thing is separate issue really, something that he needs to stop doing. Like I said earlier in the thread, I was not sulking or angry about the fishing episode I had not mentioned it once since. He was obviously feeling guilty. I am still very disappointed that he could be so stupid but hope it will not happen again.

[queenbitchapparently]

I missed the drunken rant bit sorry, that smacks of unreasolved issues.
If you were still visably angry about it and he was sulking about it that will create an atmosphere.
Best to get it all out in the open and move on.

[queenbitchapparently]

Tbf if he walked in to a shit storm of you telling him how crap he was, then yeah I could see why he would still be in a mood about it a few days later.
I personally think you overreacted, these things happen, they are annoying of course but, I doubt he did it on purpose and him saying that he knew you would be angry and it ruined it for him, Tends to suggest you get on his case a lot about things like this, is that fair?
I would try a more tactful approach next time (if you manage it tell me how, forever getting pissed off about things I probably shouldn't:))

[Blossomflowers]

hells sound advise. There have been several occasions when I believe he truely has not remembered so of the vile things he says. These days I recognise when he going into one of moods and just go to bed a leave him to it. I am not scared of him btw, he would never physically hurt me. On a positive note though his drinking far more in control, I know it i hard for him.

[hellsbellsmelons]

You need to record him next times he goes into a rant.
Play it back to him next day when he's sober!
I don't think right now this is a LTB but you need to keep pulling him up on all the things he says.
Write down what he says and when - everytime - like a diary/record and then when you have a few written down, time for a long talk!!!

[Blossomflowers]

I did have to laugh last. Over dinner DS said "hey dad lets go fishing at the weekend, and get stranded on the cob" DP looked very embarrassed.

[ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee]

You never let him do what he wants.
You spoilt the day because he knew you'd be cross.
It's YOUR fault
It's YOUR fault

... he sounds 12.

Frankly, I prefer to be in a relationship with another adult, not a child.

He says nasty things when drunk. I think it's rare to say something drunk that you don't actually think/mean/believe it's just that alcohol removes the filter that you normally use.

He's 'trying' now - that lasted all of 5 minutes didn't it. It doesn't take much to go and buy something, it takes a lot more love, care, concern - whatever you want to call it - to treat someone well & not abuse them - drink or no drink, that's what he does :(

Being with someone a loooooooong time doesn't mean it's a good idea to stay with them, there aren't any medals for endurance and honestly, it doesn't sound like a good environment for your son either...

[Xenadog]

He is a knob. You can choose to put up with this or not. I would have been angry, worried and really pissed off that he blamed me for his stupid actions. I wouldn't say he is necessarily a bully but he is immature and not taking responsibility for his actions.

I would be more concerned about the example he sets your DC as he is hardly a great role model is he?

[Blossomflowers]

Yes this is dad

[KeepCoolCalmAndCollected]

Sorry! Is your DS his son?

[Blossomflowers]

keep yes he is DS father. Yes he is irresponsible, He always forgets his phone. . I have heard nothing from him today, normally he would call me a couple of times. Guess he is sulking.

[KeepCoolCalmAndCollected]

Is your DP usually this highly irresponsible or was this a one off thing? It's also quite scary that he 'forgot' his phone in what can potentially be a very dangerous environment.
Is your DS his father?
Not being able to trust a partner in these sorts of circumstances is very difficult because what do you do the next time they want to go!?

[Blossomflowers]

maria exactly, I was tongue in cheek about being my fault. He can never take responsibility for any thing. I think he would have had an argument with himself last night, something he obviously bugging him. This is a pattern.

[MariaLuna]

He has issues but recently has been making an effort to be a better partner but then gets pissed up and it all goes to shit. Even that was my fault

His issues and fuck ups are not your fault.

He's got you so conditioned you can't even see it any more.

[Blossomflowers]

Sorry when did I say I was pissed off days later?

[JoinYourPlayfellows]

Yes, I have read the thread.

And I asked you whether you were still pissed off about this incident days later, and you said you were.

Is that not the case?

Did he suddenly get all pissed off even though you had forgotten all about it and put it behind you?

Because it's a bit much to be outraged at him raising it again if you were still sulking about it.

As I say, that's only an IF. But I thought you had confirmed that.

[Blossomflowers]

wrong end of the stick.

[Blossomflowers]

join I am sorry but I think have got the complete end of the stick, Have you actually read this thread?

[JoinYourPlayfellows]

Maybe he just got really pissed off with you carrying on bad feeling about something that was over and done with and he had said sorry for?

[JoinYourPlayfellows]

I don't think you had a "right" to be still cross and sulking about this days later.

It was a stupid thing to do, but there was no danger to your son, no harm was done, he said sorry.

If I had done something similar and DH was still obviously stropping about it days later, I would think he was being a complete prick.

[Blossomflowers]

And join I am more pissed off about him blaming me for his ridiculous mistakes.

[Blossomflowers]

Yes I was very cross and judging on other people posting most people think I had every right to be and I was not over reacting, hence the point of the post in the first place. I said my piece and have not mentioned it since. He is the one who has raked it up and now this is all about me!

[JoinYourPlayfellows]

"when he came back he was apologetic but this latest rant clearly means it was not heartfelt."

It sounds to me as thought you were still pretty pissed off about it though?

Even if you weren't planning say anything, being obviously pissed off about something that happened at the weekend, when no harm was done and apologies had been made, would be pretty irksome to me.

I'm not saying you were still being quietly aggro about it, but if you were, I think it's a bit disingenuous to pretend to the whole thing had been put behind you.

[Blossomflowers]

I don't let him get away with it stow like you I will say those sort of things, I am not a doormat. However when he starts these drunken rants I just walk away as I just can't re bothered with him, he is totally unreasonable and will say the most vile things But in my mind I can not just put it down to drink as this must be what he thinks but would not have the courage to say it when sober. I dunno.